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Stop derailing with living cost talk

On September 13 2012 07:51 MinistryOfWin wrote:
Press Release:

http://www.ministryofwin.com/news/press-release-september-13th-2012

Stay tuned for the article on ESFIWORLD.com.

- Wednesday, Sep 12 10:51pm GMT (GMT+00:00)

On September 13 2012 08:02 MinistryOfWin wrote:
http://esfiworld.com/news/ministry-win-respond-fuzers-claims

- Wednesday, Sep 12 11:02pm GMT (GMT+00:00)
Asmodeusx
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
286 Posts
September 12 2012 19:00 GMT
#101
Leave computer playing reaplays for 5 hours, or just your screen if the contract doesn't specify what content you should stream and what's the problem
Hermetis Vögelein ist mein Nahm verlahs meine Flügel und werde zahm.
followZeRoX
Profile Joined March 2011
Serbia1451 Posts
September 12 2012 19:01 GMT
#102
THat 10 years clause is void one way or another. Its done in businesses when one side want to terminate contract and pay to other side to leave it. Other side can agree on some sum of money or take all to the end of contract but arent allowed to do similar or same business until contract should naturally terminate. Like when club are terminating it with coach/manager, he cant manage other clubs until end of terminated contract if he takes all his wages until contract is designed to live.

On topic : Is Boss = Matiz?

I mean, this is retarded, its ok paying them but all these conditions are really idiotic and makes no sense. How could they profit from forbidding you to join other house? And rip off from streams is also laughable.
ELA
Profile Joined April 2010
Denmark4608 Posts
September 12 2012 19:01 GMT
#103
Erhm... Ret?? What the fuck is going on?

With DarkForCe posting in here that this needed to happen, Im quite worried...

Hope someone from either party can come clarify this ASAP!



The first link of chain forged, the first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably.
Jochan
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Poland1730 Posts
September 12 2012 19:01 GMT
#104
OP is writing some serious shit right there, we need someone to get to the bottom of this asap. Statement from MoW would be nice, also a screenshot from Skype maybe? Black out the name, it's basic Windows Paint stuff. Those are some pretty serious allegations which paint MoW as totally unfitted to do their job, like ever, if they provide house with food that is bad/limited, you can't sleep, they slave you out, well that's not a gaming house, and that's what they are. Again we need more clear information.
"(...)all in the game, yo. All in the game"
rhs408
Profile Joined January 2011
United States904 Posts
September 12 2012 19:02 GMT
#105
On September 13 2012 04:00 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2012 03:42 blade55555 wrote:
Interesting and absolutely stupid if everything is true. There are always 2 sides to the story but wow the MoW sounds absolutely horrid. Also good luck keeping people from doing another team house or something for 10 years lol...


Hoping for some input from other MoW players/ people.

They all probably can't say anything, they signed the NDA...
Cinim
Profile Joined April 2011
Denmark866 Posts
September 12 2012 19:02 GMT
#106
On September 13 2012 03:56 spbelky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2012 03:50 Cinim wrote:
Technically though, the fact that they are trying to protect their methods with the 10 year thing, is used similarely in many businesses(you cant be involved with old customer, or join competing companies, but then you get a small compensation though).
I would really like to know the more exact phrasing of that part tbh, just saying that ''it basicly means'' isn't enough for me

I know that the investment banking industry has a clause in everyones contract where theyre not allowed to be employed by another bank for 90 days after they resign. However, they get paid for those 90 days...

10 Years?? AND you're paying them?? AND they're taking 50% of your stream revenue?? AND the "boss" is using the house for personal reasons??
LOL is this some kind of joke?

actually it's closer to half a year-1 year, but yes 10 years DOES sound like a lot, but fuzer twisted the definition in the contract a bit, which he said, so we don't know exactly what it say. Also, I bet you need a real insanely well reason to exclude living areas.
Hell, it's about time
Azurues
Profile Joined March 2011
Malaysia5612 Posts
September 12 2012 19:02 GMT
#107
from the food perspective too, that is totally unhealthy stuff. i think you probably get more sick in the house
Jepsyn
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Canada364 Posts
September 12 2012 19:03 GMT
#108
Wow that is a terrible situation .. I really hope the OP gets the situation resolved properly..looks really shady for MoW
"Wonder what this game would be like if protoss units cost money" - IdrA
S_SienZ
Profile Joined September 2011
1878 Posts
September 12 2012 19:03 GMT
#109
On September 13 2012 04:00 pallad wrote:
One side... everyone says that House is superb and everyone love it ...


And at othger side one players say shit like this.. , who to belive ?

Perfectly possible for the house (as in the building) to be amazing but the boss behind it to be an unreasonable unprofessional douche.
hunts
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2113 Posts
September 12 2012 19:03 GMT
#110
I think one way to settle whether this is true or not would be for the OP to post a copy of the contract, or at least the important parts. That way if it is true and HIS contract was like that, it can't be disputed by going "well ret's or other known players don't have those." And if it's true and the known players get to get out of those contracts and the unknowns get them, then that's still no reason to in any way support MoW.
twitch.tv/huntstv 7x legend streamer
mememolly
Profile Joined December 2011
4765 Posts
September 12 2012 19:03 GMT
#111
Anyone who has lived with their bros can tell you that this was a bad idea, even living with friends can get tense at times, let alone paying to live with 16 other unknown nerds, and then you throw in all the stupid rules and 1 hot meal a day? rofl, fuck that
Saechiis
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Netherlands4989 Posts
September 12 2012 19:05 GMT
#112
I linked this in Sage's stream but he couldn't really understand, just that it wasn't good news. I'm a bit worried, he must be pretty stressed about it since his English isn't very good and he can't really communicate about these matters with the other MoW people. Can anyone translate or something? :/
I think esports is pretty nice.
pallad
Profile Joined September 2010
Poland1958 Posts
September 12 2012 19:05 GMT
#113
On September 13 2012 04:03 S_SienZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2012 04:00 pallad wrote:
One side... everyone says that House is superb and everyone love it ...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1yG8hzVVZ4Q&feature=player_embedded#!

And at othger side one players say shit like this.. , who to belive ?

Perfectly possible for the house (as in the building) to be amazing but the boss behind it to be an unreasonable unprofessional douche.


And from where you know that ? You met him ? , or you just read one post here..?
SC 2 -LingsLover- EU -- Jaedong , NesTea , Nerchio , DRG , Moon , Oz , Tarson , Scarlett -- Dota 2 Pallad EU- NaVi - LGD
nemonic
Profile Joined November 2011
132 Posts
September 12 2012 19:06 GMT
#114
What a joke ... Even if you signed this contract, I'm pretty sure it would be declared illegal in front of a court in any civilized country.
Rube_Juice
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada348 Posts
September 12 2012 19:06 GMT
#115
Where's blackfoger! I'd rather sign the Blight contract!
mememolly
Profile Joined December 2011
4765 Posts
September 12 2012 19:06 GMT
#116
On September 13 2012 04:00 tribulator wrote:
I couldn't imagine a player like Destiny signing that kinda contract either since it would directly cut into his main source of income (his stream). So I wonder if the contract differs from player to player (or if they haven't signed anything yet).


Of course the contract differs for the big name players, that's basic marketing, bring some big names in and lure all the no-names and bleed them of everything they have.
S_SienZ
Profile Joined September 2011
1878 Posts
September 12 2012 19:06 GMT
#117
On September 13 2012 04:05 pallad wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2012 04:03 S_SienZ wrote:
On September 13 2012 04:00 pallad wrote:
One side... everyone says that House is superb and everyone love it ...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1yG8hzVVZ4Q&feature=player_embedded#!

And at othger side one players say shit like this.. , who to belive ?

Perfectly possible for the house (as in the building) to be amazing but the boss behind it to be an unreasonable unprofessional douche.


And from where you know that ? You met him ? , or you just read one post here..?

I never claimed to know that. I just said that the two could possibly be true at the same time ( your 1st post implied that only one could be true )
hypercube
Profile Joined April 2010
Hungary2735 Posts
September 12 2012 19:06 GMT
#118
On September 13 2012 04:05 pallad wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 13 2012 04:03 S_SienZ wrote:
On September 13 2012 04:00 pallad wrote:
One side... everyone says that House is superb and everyone love it ...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1yG8hzVVZ4Q&feature=player_embedded#!

And at othger side one players say shit like this.. , who to belive ?

Perfectly possible for the house (as in the building) to be amazing but the boss behind it to be an unreasonable unprofessional douche.


And from where you know that ? You met him ? , or you just read one post here..?


Do you know him? Or are you associated with MoW in any way?
"Sending people in rockets to other planets is a waste of money better spent on sending rockets into people on this planet."
Torrathyr
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada95 Posts
September 12 2012 19:06 GMT
#119
Wow that is absolutely insane. That makes me wonder what the other players went through and if they had to deal with similar situations. Hope you get your money back!
Talent < Skill < Practice < Dedication
MinistryOfWin
Profile Joined April 2012
Poland87 Posts
September 12 2012 19:06 GMT
#120
Official statement of Ministry of Win to be released within two hours.
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