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NovemberstOrm
Canada16217 Posts
Killer first joined our organization in February of this year following his time with TSL. During his stay with us he attended numerous global events, lived and trained in the MvP house and became a great friend. We'd like to thank Killer very much for his contributions and wish him the very best in the future." article:http://www.complexitygaming.com/news/3786/ 
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CeriseCherries
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TRaFFiC
Canada1448 Posts
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Samp
Canada783 Posts
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Wintex
Norway16838 Posts
 Hope he finds a new home. A loss for Complexity. | ||
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Caliber
United States598 Posts
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CuteZergling
641 Posts
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farnham
1378 Posts
would fit namewise lol | ||
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antilyon
Brazil2546 Posts
On September 06 2012 05:17 Caliber wrote: probably hates HotS "Damn. I hate HotS so much! I'm going to resign from my team right and retire right now!" Makes no sense whatsoever. | ||
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MetalPanda
Canada1152 Posts
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Klipsys
United States1533 Posts
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stratmatt
United States913 Posts
it makes sense though. heart has been complexity's star player and killer has been really underperforming except in egmcs....hopfully complexity is just trimming the fat like they did with nada so they can pick up a csgo team  | ||
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Fusilero
United Kingdom50293 Posts
On September 06 2012 05:24 Klipsys wrote: going to coach a KeSPA team? He's captain a reborn estro team for SC2, a man can dream | ||
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Torte de Lini
Germany38463 Posts
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JimSocks
United States968 Posts
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di4m0nd
United States297 Posts
On September 06 2012 05:24 stratmatt wrote: my favorite protoss it makes sense though. heart has been complexity's star player and killer has been really underperforming except in egmcs....hopfully complexity is just trimming the fat like they did with nada so they can pick up a csgo team OMG YES If they pick up a csgo Team i would shit brickes.. one can only dream.. still waiting on team3D to start back up | ||
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LuckoftheIrish
United States4791 Posts
On September 06 2012 05:28 di4m0nd wrote: OMG YES If they pick up a csgo Team i would shit brickes.. one can only dream.. still waiting on team3D to start back up At least we have NiP | ||
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sparkk51
United States137 Posts
On September 06 2012 05:21 antilyon wrote: "Damn. I hate HotS so much! I'm going to resign from my team right and retire right now!" Makes no sense whatsoever. He isn't claimed to be retiring. | ||
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Denar
France1633 Posts
On September 06 2012 05:28 di4m0nd wrote: OMG YES If they pick up a csgo Team i would shit brickes.. one can only dream.. still waiting on team3D to start back up Well Volcano is still playing, dunno where's ksharp now though. And I don't know what would be next for Killer, but Kespa teams will be looking for him, as a player or a coach, that's for sure. | ||
Fionn
United States23455 Posts
(P)coL.Killer: Killer went 0-5. The only other player in history who went 0-5 in the Up/Down groups was BumblebeePrime. After going 0-5, he apparently left Prime, vanished from the universe, and is now in some different dimension trying to end the shame of going 0-5 in his Up/Down group. Let's hope the same doesn't happen to Killer. Uh oh. | ||
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SilSol
Sweden2744 Posts
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ACrow
Germany6583 Posts
I hope he sticks around and that he wasn't "fired" due to his Up&Downs. He is such a likable personality, even if his play has fallen off a little. | ||
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illsick
United States1770 Posts
gl killer | ||
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T0F4sT
Netherlands317 Posts
Bumblebee? Who's that? :D | ||
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Gosi
Sweden9072 Posts
On September 06 2012 05:21 antilyon wrote: "Damn. I hate HotS so much! I'm going to resign from my team right and retire right now!" Makes no sense whatsoever. Why not? If he knows right now that he won't continue playing sc2 while being in the position he is in (not being in the top fighting for championship money) then why not just call it quits right now and pick up where he left his private life before coming back as a progamer? He probably have school and then 2 years of military service to be done, and in early 2013 he turns 24 korean. For someone that isn't cashing in heavily in that age it's pretty reasonable to quit now/soon. | ||
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Laneir
United States1160 Posts
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dabom88
United States3483 Posts
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GoSuChicken
Germany1726 Posts
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Talin
Montenegro10532 Posts
Terious (I think?). The guy who lost to Scarlett at IPL to give her her first big win. | ||
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Zenbrez
Canada5973 Posts
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Condor Hero
United States2931 Posts
On September 06 2012 06:31 GoSuChicken wrote: He'll maybe go to the military, isnt he quite "old" already? Yeah he's pretty old for progamer, he was around when Nony went to Korea. | ||
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Shunjal
United States482 Posts
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Gryffes
United Kingdom763 Posts
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SHOOG
United States1639 Posts
I remember him in the Complexity documentary. He seemed very nice. I hope he continues gaming. | ||
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Ricemagical
270 Posts
It's a curse D: | ||
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Dismay
United States1180 Posts
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AgentChaos
United Kingdom4569 Posts
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Hds
France200 Posts
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Pucca
Taiwan1280 Posts
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CitrusFo
Canada116 Posts
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Burns
United States2300 Posts
I hope he keeps playing and that he finds a good home elsewhere | ||
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farvacola
United States18822 Posts
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juicy
Australia145 Posts
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xsnac
Barbados1365 Posts
On September 06 2012 07:00 BWalma wrote: I wish him the best of luck. I wonder though why is it pro gamers don't stay with a team longer. I mean in Baseball players often play with a team for several years while under contract. becose esport teams dont have the money to keep players that dont produce results . i guarantee you if complexity had 100 milion dolar income / year . they would sign every single pro gamer they can . | ||
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jakethesnake
Canada4948 Posts
Best of luck Killer. Hope you get back to code S soon and find a new team! | ||
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Lonyo
United Kingdom3884 Posts
On September 06 2012 07:11 xsnac wrote: becose esport teams dont have the money to keep players that dont produce results . i guarantee you if complexity had 100 milion dolar income / year . they would sign every single pro gamer they can . Not only that, but the cycle in progaming is MUCH shorter than in "real" sports, typically. Think of the players who have hit the peak and then dropped off pretty rapidly, or won once and then disappeared. Plus players can't always commit to progaming forever. You might get a year or two, but then realise/decide you can't make enough to justify putting off "real" life for even longer, and you need to leave. Players as well are probably very reluctant to sign for long term because they won't know what their own future holds, and there are fewer guarantees in gaming, especially as it's also such a solo effort for the most part (in SC2 that is). | ||
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RUFinalBoss
United States266 Posts
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Nazeron
Canada1046 Posts
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AzureHath
Bulgaria154 Posts
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RiceAgainst
United States1849 Posts
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SolarJto
United States260 Posts
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BathTubNZ
New Zealand2556 Posts
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GenoPewPew
United States347 Posts
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Hall0wed
United States8486 Posts
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chris5180
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YourGoodFriend
United States2197 Posts
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Jaaaaasper
United States10225 Posts
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Antimatterz
United States1010 Posts
Oh shit, I forgot about this. Hope history doesn't repeat itself :O | ||
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TheRealNanMan
United States1471 Posts
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PhoenixDark
United States286 Posts
Seems like a lot of Korean players who chase foreign money wind up stagnating as they get behind the general metagame, and don't win anything of note at tournaments. I doubt Complexity will exist at the end of the year | ||
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LimitSEA
Australia9580 Posts
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aRyuujin
United States5049 Posts
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qtiehunter
1088 Posts
Hope he fins a new team! | ||
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mongmong
Korea (South)1389 Posts
It was painful to watch his games. He just couldn't keep up with other players. | ||
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klicken
Sweden206 Posts
Hope you'll find a new team soon! | ||
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goswser
United States3519 Posts
On September 06 2012 15:07 mongmong wrote: He didnt produce ANY results. It was painful to watch his games. He just couldn't keep up with other players. Yes he did produce some results... | ||
Epoxide
Magic Woods9326 Posts
On September 06 2012 07:29 Lonyo wrote: Not only that, but the cycle in progaming is MUCH shorter than in "real" sports, typically. Think of the players who have hit the peak and then dropped off pretty rapidly, or won once and then disappeared. Plus players can't always commit to progaming forever. You might get a year or two, but then realise/decide you can't make enough to justify putting off "real" life for even longer, and you need to leave. Players as well are probably very reluctant to sign for long term because they won't know what their own future holds, and there are fewer guarantees in gaming, especially as it's also such a solo effort for the most part (in SC2 that is). I really agree. Just look at NaDa. Stayed in Pantech forever because of his constistency. | ||
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Brett
Australia3820 Posts
lol... Almost prophetic! | ||
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NexCa
Germany954 Posts
On September 06 2012 15:07 mongmong wrote: He didnt produce ANY results. It was painful to watch his games. He just couldn't keep up with other players. No reason because they part ways ? Guess complexity just kicks the players who don't bring results. And lol. And btw ... mongmong: On July 23rd Killer participated in the 2012 South Korea WCS Preliminaries and lost to Leenock at the finals, taking second place That IS a result right there ... | ||
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ReachTheSky
United States3294 Posts
On September 06 2012 19:33 NexCa wrote: No reason because they part ways ? Guess complexity just kicks the players who don't bring results. And lol. And btw ... mongmong: On July 23rd Killer participated in the 2012 South Korea WCS Preliminaries and lost to Leenock at the finals, taking second place That IS a result right there ... Those are prelims. Thats basically a qualifier tournament before the actual tournament. Not much of a result. He didn't make it to the actual WCS tourney. | ||
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Matkap
Spain627 Posts
On September 06 2012 14:12 PhoenixDark wrote: Didn't seem like a good fit. He didn't really have many good practice partners on his team, wasn't winning anything, and might have traveled too much. It would make far more sense for him to join a Korean team imo. Better practice environment, and while he probably won't travel as much he'll get better as a player. Seems like a lot of Korean players who chase foreign money wind up stagnating as they get behind the general metagame, and don't win anything of note at tournaments. I doubt Complexity will exist at the end of the year what? do you actually know what col is? :O | ||
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Ritchie
Canada206 Posts
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bouboule
American Samoa62 Posts
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mongmong
Korea (South)1389 Posts
No reason because they part ways ? Guess complexity just kicks the players who don't bring results. And lol. And btw ... mongmong: On July 23rd Killer participated in the 2012 South Korea WCS Preliminaries and lost to Leenock at the finals, taking second place That IS a result right there ... Last edit: 2012-09-06 19:35:20 result? winning in prelim is considered results?? Ask pro teams if thats even considered as "results" so, winning in semi final of prelim means NOTHING. if what youre saying is right, all the pro teams should recruit players who get knocked out of prelim finals of GSL. | ||
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SharkStarcraft
Austria2216 Posts
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pookums
151 Posts
On September 06 2012 19:33 NexCa wrote: No reason because they part ways ? Guess complexity just kicks the players who don't bring results. And lol. And btw ... mongmong: On July 23rd Killer participated in the 2012 South Korea WCS Preliminaries and lost to Leenock at the finals, taking second place That IS a result right there ... Almost advancing out of the qualifiers for a national WCS tournament is not a result. He has steadily slid from GSL since joining coL and eventually got completely knocked out. The best Killer did was performing well in the playoffs of the EG Master's Cup, aka the completely online tournament which is the 3rd most prestigious team league in North America. This was after he did abysmally for coL in the group stage. Teams sign players so that they can get the word out for their sponsors. This is either through exposure as a personality or exposure as a good player and once in a blue moon the player can be both. For foreign teams, Koreans are usually picked up for their ability to win games (as far as I can think the only Korean to be picked up with a larger emphasis being placed on their personality over their skill at the time was Nada by coL). With the exception of the aforementioned EGMC, Killer did not perform for coL. And he certainly wasn't marketing himself as a personality (admittedly hard to do with the language barrier). Barring some incredible upswing in his results, the best Killer can hope for as far as teams are concerned is to get signed onto a Korean team for no salary. He's either going to retire within the next month or two or he'll stick around to see if he can do well in HotS. | ||
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TRaFFiC
Canada1448 Posts
On September 06 2012 22:20 pookums wrote: Almost advancing out of the qualifiers for a national WCS tournament is not a result. He has steadily slid from GSL since joining coL and eventually got completely knocked out. The best Killer did was performing well in the playoffs of the EG Master's Cup, aka the completely online tournament which is the 3rd most prestigious team league in North America. This was after he did abysmally for coL in the group stage. Teams sign players so that they can get the word out for their sponsors. This is either through exposure as a personality or exposure as a good player and once in a blue moon the player can be both. For foreign teams, Koreans are usually picked up for their ability to win games (as far as I can think the only Korean to be picked up with a larger emphasis being placed on their personality over their skill at the time was Nada by coL). With the exception of the aforementioned EGMC, Killer did not perform for coL. And he certainly wasn't marketing himself as a personality (admittedly hard to do with the language barrier). Barring some incredible upswing in his results, the best Killer can hope for as far as teams are concerned is to get signed onto a Korean team for no salary. He's either going to retire within the next month or two or he'll stick around to see if he can do well in HotS. You seem pretty damn sure without any sources. | ||
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HeeroFX
United States2704 Posts
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Dranion
United States7 Posts
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pullarius1
United States522 Posts
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Cannabeastwod
Denmark37 Posts
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NovemberstOrm
Canada16217 Posts
On September 06 2012 22:20 pookums wrote: Almost advancing out of the qualifiers for a national WCS tournament is not a result. He has steadily slid from GSL since joining coL and eventually got completely knocked out. The best Killer did was performing well in the playoffs of the EG Master's Cup, aka the completely online tournament which is the 3rd most prestigious team league in North America. This was after he did abysmally for coL in the group stage. Teams sign players so that they can get the word out for their sponsors. This is either through exposure as a personality or exposure as a good player and once in a blue moon the player can be both. For foreign teams, Koreans are usually picked up for their ability to win games (as far as I can think the only Korean to be picked up with a larger emphasis being placed on their personality over their skill at the time was Nada by coL). With the exception of the aforementioned EGMC, Killer did not perform for coL. And he certainly wasn't marketing himself as a personality (admittedly hard to do with the language barrier). Barring some incredible upswing in his results, the best Killer can hope for as far as teams are concerned is to get signed onto a Korean team for no salary. He's either going to retire within the next month or two or he'll stick around to see if he can do well in HotS. Killer just failed in the up & down matches he's still in Code A he is not out. | ||
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mikedebo
Canada4341 Posts
GOGOG SANGHO | ||
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NMC
Canada28 Posts
On September 06 2012 14:12 PhoenixDark wrote:I doubt Complexity will exist at the end of the year lol, you new to esports bro? | ||
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