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On August 24 2012 22:48 Str1keFreedom wrote:
GSL players have far more difficult schedules due to foreign tournaments. It is all play on words. Nothing is changed until kespa signs a contract that allow their players to join tournaments freely. Don't think it is over people!!!
That is never going to happen and is an absurd thing to demand.
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On August 24 2012 22:48 figq wrote:
If ESF don't still pull their players from the current OSL, they've been basically fooled. Don't get yourself fooled, Nestea!
Kespa skips a season - ESF should skip a season.
Except OSL's are twice the length of GSL's and they're much less common. Also this OSL will end after the GSL S5 qualifiers start, so ESF will still have leverage for a while.
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On August 24 2012 22:36 Exarl25 wrote:
It's a trap!
No but seriously, GSL 5 is after the OSL. They will get the GSL players to participate in OSL, then just go back on their word again and not bother with GSL 5 after all. Unless they agree to play in the upcoming GSL then the boycott should continue. They aren't trustworthy.
This. Is my fear as well. And those who scoff at the idea because it's outlandish, bad rep, sponsor-angering, or whatever other negative adjectives will be very surprised going forward =/
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On August 24 2012 22:48 Str1keFreedom wrote:
GUYS THIS ANNOUNCEMENT DOES NOT CHANGE A THING!! Their statement was They will join season 5. Not they will join future seasons. The schedule problem is bull. GSL is known to make schedule accommodations for their players. Also there are players in Kespa that have not qualified for OSL, GSL, WCG, etc... Why stop them from joining GSL huh?
GSL players have far more difficult schedules due to foreign tournaments. It is all play on words. Nothing is changed until kespa signs a contract that allow their players to join tournaments freely. Don't think it is over people!!!
I'm /facepalming for a few pages now.
Indeed, it doesn't change ANYTHING to what they planned to do...
What matters is Season 4.
If ESF isn't stupid, they will attend the OSL once Kespa will attend the GSL...
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"We made decision based upon our wish to hold Auction All-Kill Starleague Round of 16 on 28th without trouble," and added, "We do not wish for another disruption in our leagues.
Only thinking of themselves
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On August 24 2012 22:49 Talin wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2012 22:48 Str1keFreedom wrote:
GSL players have far more difficult schedules due to foreign tournaments. It is all play on words. Nothing is changed until kespa signs a contract that allow their players to join tournaments freely. Don't think it is over people!!! That is never going to happen and is an absurd thing to demand.
What is so absurd to allow players to choose the tournaments they wish to join as long as it does not interfere with their own events? What is so absurd about giving no name Kespa players chance at another tournament qualification?
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seems like they say NO 4 and now they wanna keep face whats VERY importent in asia room and say "5 will be ok 5 ok but not 4 as we said" because come on if there is something BIG it will also hit with gsl 5 ... also you cant trust them ... they have an arangement with MLG to send kespa gamers every mlg and now 0 kespa gamers for this MLG ...
how you know they change mind before GSL 5
and yes why isnt kespa allowing ANYONE to participate, only the best will play in the kespa events but not even b teamers are allowed to travel to mlg and co ? dudes thats so bad they NEED a contract that players and/or teams are allowed to choose FREE what tournaments they will join ... kespa is to strong blizzard need to stop them
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On August 24 2012 22:48 figq wrote:
If ESF don't still pull their players from the current OSL, they've been basically fooled. Don't get yourself fooled, Nestea!
Kespa skips a season - ESF should skip a season.
I like the word folded or conceded more in that case.
If they did nothing it would look very bad on them.
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This is all just so embarrassing.
I hope Elly is ok.
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Am I the only one who is confused by this decision?
First they decide not to participate in the GSL, a huge company like KESPA undoubtedly considered the consequences of that decision. ESF does what they were likely to do, Blizzard was going to make an announcement regarding this and suddenly they decide it wasn't a good idea.
Is it likely that Blizzard told KESPA to STFU and do what's best for ESPORTS? Only thing I can think of.
Oh edit; I only just read it was for GSL 5 instead of 4.. S
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On August 24 2012 22:51 MisterTea wrote:
"We made decision based upon our wish to hold Auction All-Kill Starleague Round of 16 on 28th without trouble," and added, "We do not wish for another disruption in our leagues.
Only thinking of themselves
Yeah, that part got me too. It almost sounds like a subtle threat.
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On August 24 2012 22:51 Str1keFreedom wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2012 22:49 Talin wrote:On August 24 2012 22:48 Str1keFreedom wrote:
GSL players have far more difficult schedules due to foreign tournaments. It is all play on words. Nothing is changed until kespa signs a contract that allow their players to join tournaments freely. Don't think it is over people!!! That is never going to happen and is an absurd thing to demand. Why is so absurd to allow players to choose the tournaments they wish to join as long as it does not interfere with their own events? What is so absurd about giving no name Kespa players chance at another tournament qualification?
It's absurd because teams don't work that way and players don't get to do whatever they want.
It's what makes the teams good, and it's what makes their players good. If you want to force them to function like western/GOM teams instead of functioning like genuine progaming teams, you don't even need Kespa teams in the first place.
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On August 24 2012 22:52 Bojas wrote:
Am I the only one who is confused by this decision?
First they decide not to participate in the GSL, a huge company like KESPA undoubtedly considered the consequences of that decision. ESF does what they were likely to do, Blizzard was going to make an announcement regarding this and suddenly they decide it wasn't a good idea.
Is it likely that Blizzard told KESPA to STFU and do what's best for ESPORTS? Only thing I can think of.
If there is one thing KeSPA did it was buy more time.
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I don't put any faith in hollow KeSPA promises. Alas, unlike BW, Blizzard commands the eSport-ship in SC2.
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On August 24 2012 22:52 Bojas wrote:
Am I the only one who is confused by this decision?
First they decide not to participate in the GSL, a huge company like KESPA undoubtedly considered the consequences of that decision. ESF does what they were likely to do, Blizzard was going to make an announcement regarding this and suddenly they decide it wasn't a good idea.
Is it likely that Blizzard told KESPA to STFU and do what's best for ESPORTS? Only thing I can think of.
they said no one will play in gsl4 now they only say gsl 5 is ok, they still not allow them to play in the next gsl upcoming ...
wcs helped sooo much to promote the kespa teams in the world, 100 times more then proleague can with only kespa guys.
so gsl would be perfect to make guys like reality a name and when they start playing in gsl it seems they not want reality or some iother semi skilled gamer to be the top it seems they want flash jaedong etc to be the best
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OK, now, will gsl players attend current OSL? Waited so long for this one.
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Seriously, they should just try out in the upcoming GSL. If they are too busy with their other leagues - just play the GSL for fun and not prepare much for it, take a quick chance and move on. No need for all this drama. Perhaps they could do this shit in the past, but now there's: 1) Blizzard, actively involved; 2) A huge and proactive foreign scene watching and judging.
If Kespa think they can get away with their usual shit no problem, they are mistaken.
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On August 24 2012 22:53 Talin wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2012 22:51 Str1keFreedom wrote:On August 24 2012 22:49 Talin wrote:On August 24 2012 22:48 Str1keFreedom wrote:
GSL players have far more difficult schedules due to foreign tournaments. It is all play on words. Nothing is changed until kespa signs a contract that allow their players to join tournaments freely. Don't think it is over people!!! That is never going to happen and is an absurd thing to demand. Why is so absurd to allow players to choose the tournaments they wish to join as long as it does not interfere with their own events? What is so absurd about giving no name Kespa players chance at another tournament qualification? It's absurd because teams don't work that way and players don't get to do whatever they want. It's what makes the teams good, and it's what makes their players good. If you want to force them to function like western/GOM teams instead of functioning like genuine progaming teams, you don't even need Kespa teams in the first place.
You are not forcing anyone to play their games in Gom. You are giving them the rights to join if their time allows them to do so. Kespa players publicly spoke about joining GSL and they wished to compete in it. It is not Gom forcing anything to players. Open your eyes. It is Kespa who is "forcing" players against their will.
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On August 24 2012 22:53 Talin wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2012 22:51 Str1keFreedom wrote:On August 24 2012 22:49 Talin wrote:On August 24 2012 22:48 Str1keFreedom wrote:
GSL players have far more difficult schedules due to foreign tournaments. It is all play on words. Nothing is changed until kespa signs a contract that allow their players to join tournaments freely. Don't think it is over people!!! That is never going to happen and is an absurd thing to demand. Why is so absurd to allow players to choose the tournaments they wish to join as long as it does not interfere with their own events? What is so absurd about giving no name Kespa players chance at another tournament qualification? It's absurd because teams don't work that way and players don't get to do whatever they want. It's what makes the teams good, and it's what makes their players good. If you want to force them to function like western/GOM teams instead of functioning like genuine progaming teams, you don't even need Kespa teams in the first place.
and thats the point, we do NOT need kespa teams ^^ we need the PLAYERS the TEAMS but not really kespa ... its to powerfull and not really usefull in sc2...
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On August 24 2012 22:55 Str1keFreedom wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2012 22:53 Talin wrote:On August 24 2012 22:51 Str1keFreedom wrote:On August 24 2012 22:49 Talin wrote:On August 24 2012 22:48 Str1keFreedom wrote:
GSL players have far more difficult schedules due to foreign tournaments. It is all play on words. Nothing is changed until kespa signs a contract that allow their players to join tournaments freely. Don't think it is over people!!! That is never going to happen and is an absurd thing to demand. Why is so absurd to allow players to choose the tournaments they wish to join as long as it does not interfere with their own events? What is so absurd about giving no name Kespa players chance at another tournament qualification? It's absurd because teams don't work that way and players don't get to do whatever they want. It's what makes the teams good, and it's what makes their players good. If you want to force them to function like western/GOM teams instead of functioning like genuine progaming teams, you don't even need Kespa teams in the first place. You are not forcing anyone to play their games in Gom. You are giving them the rights to join if their time allows them to do so. Kespa players publicly spoke about joining GSL and they wished to compete in it. It is not Gom forcing anything to players. Open your eyes. It is Kespa who is "forcing" players against their will.
exaclty, its that some players REALLY WANT to play in gom and kespa is scared they not play in the "lower" kespa tournament upcoming when they are gsl gosus anytime, they are scared loosing all players to gom they are just god damn scared about being useless anytime soon
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