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Akio00
Profile Joined January 2011
United States98 Posts
August 24 2012 08:19 GMT
#1541
Let's use a real sports analogy.

This is basically like the Miami Heat telling LeBron James he can't play on the national team.
oBlade
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States5784 Posts
August 24 2012 08:21 GMT
#1542
On August 24 2012 17:04 JustPassingBy wrote:
Kespa official: "Sorry, but since you already practise for Proleague, OSL and WCS, we cannot account for you trying out at the GSL qualifiers."
Kespa player: "But I am not participating in neither OSL or WCS, and my team hasn't fielded me in Proleagueonce!!!"

I think all the players who were dissatisfied with the lifestyle of their KeSPA team already left in 2010-11 to try their hands at GSL qualifiers. Besides that, they have responsibilities to train, and specifically to be practice partners for the better players of the team.
"I read it. You know how to read, you ignorant fuck?" - Andy Dufresne
achan1058
Profile Joined February 2012
1091 Posts
August 24 2012 08:23 GMT
#1543
On August 24 2012 17:21 oBlade wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2012 17:04 JustPassingBy wrote:
Kespa official: "Sorry, but since you already practise for Proleague, OSL and WCS, we cannot account for you trying out at the GSL qualifiers."
Kespa player: "But I am not participating in neither OSL or WCS, and my team hasn't fielded me in Proleagueonce!!!"

I think all the players who were dissatisfied with the lifestyle of their KeSPA team already left in 2010-11 to try their hands at GSL qualifiers. Besides that, they have responsibilities to train, and specifically to be practice partners for the better players of the team.
I don't think that's necessary true. They might be wary of whether SC2 is going to succeed or not, and therefore unwilling to make a leap of faith. Now, which foreign team has lots of money once some of these contracts expire?
iKill
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Denmark861 Posts
August 24 2012 08:24 GMT
#1544
On August 24 2012 17:17 coolcor wrote:
Show nested quote +
KeSPA players will be presented at SC2 Proleague, OSL, WCG Korean representative qualifiers, WCS and MLG online matches, MLG final invitational. Their regular week schedule will be 4 days for Proleague, 2 days for OSL, 2days for MLG cross matches.


Would they be able to play in GOM without the MLG stuff? I dont think online matches should ever get priority over GSL.



Problem is that KeSPA has a deal with MLG and playing online crossmatches might be a large part of that deal.
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MCXD
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Australia2738 Posts
August 24 2012 08:24 GMT
#1545
On August 24 2012 17:23 achan1058 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2012 17:21 oBlade wrote:
On August 24 2012 17:04 JustPassingBy wrote:
Kespa official: "Sorry, but since you already practise for Proleague, OSL and WCS, we cannot account for you trying out at the GSL qualifiers."
Kespa player: "But I am not participating in neither OSL or WCS, and my team hasn't fielded me in Proleagueonce!!!"

I think all the players who were dissatisfied with the lifestyle of their KeSPA team already left in 2010-11 to try their hands at GSL qualifiers. Besides that, they have responsibilities to train, and specifically to be practice partners for the better players of the team.
I don't think that's necessary true. They might be wary of whether SC2 is going to succeed or not, and therefore unwilling to make a leap of faith. Now, which foreign team has lots of money once some of these contracts expire?


Millenium, starting late next week =P
Split.
Profile Joined September 2011
Switzerland234 Posts
August 24 2012 08:26 GMT
#1546
Ridiculous excuse. Allowing them to participate doesn't force them to. So why not just let the players that have time participate? The ones who don't play in wcs and osl?
achan1058
Profile Joined February 2012
1091 Posts
August 24 2012 08:28 GMT
#1547
Honestly though, I can't see how some of the sponsers can sit quietly on this, while LG is sending a bunch of their own guys to MLG. Sure they aren't sending all their big guns, which is reasonable, but they are still sending people over to give them exposure.
Testuser
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
6469 Posts
August 24 2012 08:28 GMT
#1548
I guess attending GSL is a problem if they're already booked for eight days a week :/
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anrimayu
Profile Joined June 2011
United States875 Posts
August 24 2012 08:28 GMT
#1549
Well, the Federation decided to keep the GSL players, Nestea, MVP, MC, Parting, San, DRG, and MKP, from playing in the OSL until Kespa stop being greedy assholes to fuck over esports.
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achan1058
Profile Joined February 2012
1091 Posts
August 24 2012 08:29 GMT
#1550
On August 24 2012 17:28 anrimayu wrote:
Well, the Federation decided to keep the GSL players, Nestea, MVP, MC, Parting, San, DRG, and MKP, from playing in the OSL until Kespa stop being greedy assholes to fuck over esports.
Source?
TheAmazombie
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States3714 Posts
August 24 2012 08:29 GMT
#1551
On August 24 2012 17:28 anrimayu wrote:
Well, the Federation decided to keep the GSL players, Nestea, MVP, MC, Parting, San, DRG, and MKP, from playing in the OSL until Kespa stop being greedy assholes to fuck over esports.


What? I did not see that. Source?
We think too much and feel too little. More than machinery, we need humanity. More than cleverness, we need kindness and gentleness. Without these qualities, life will be violent and all will be lost. -Charlie Chaplin
ilsamsamchil
Profile Joined September 2010
155 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-24 08:51:45
August 24 2012 08:29 GMT
#1552
On August 24 2012 17:28 anrimayu wrote:
Well, the Federation decided to keep the GSL players, Nestea, MVP, MC, Parting, San, DRG, and MKP, from playing in the OSL until Kespa stop being greedy assholes to fuck over esports.


http://www.thisisgame.com/board/view.php?id=1273725&category=102&subcategory=
source

short translation: This was an unfortunate turn of event, especially considering it has only been 4 months since the agreement we have made back in may. Looking back at what happened during gomtv classic, we are worried that this is something that could happen all over again well in to the future. Under the agreement of all ESF teams and players who are attending OSL(nestea, mvp, mc, drg, mkp, parting, san), we have agreed to boycott OSL.


Reason stated are scattered all over the announcement but it's mostly because they are worried that GSL might be squeezed out and that might be the end of ESF as well.

good for them.
https://www.twitch.tv/ShowbuTV
Uracil
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany422 Posts
August 24 2012 08:30 GMT
#1553
On August 24 2012 17:19 Akio00 wrote:
Let's use a real sports analogy.

This is basically like the Miami Heat telling LeBron James he can't play on the national team.

Or like the Fifa only sending only under-23 national teams to Olympia to protect their own tournaments. O wait they exactly do that.
Players in most sports are not free to partizipate where they want the clubs decide that.
anrimayu
Profile Joined June 2011
United States875 Posts
August 24 2012 08:31 GMT
#1554
On August 24 2012 17:29 achan1058 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2012 17:28 anrimayu wrote:
Well, the Federation decided to keep the GSL players, Nestea, MVP, MC, Parting, San, DRG, and MKP, from playing in the OSL until Kespa stop being greedy assholes to fuck over esports.
Source?


Source

It's in Korean, basically theyre calling bullshit on Kespa's claims. No surprise there. It's understandable.
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TheAmazombie
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States3714 Posts
August 24 2012 08:31 GMT
#1555
On August 24 2012 17:29 ilsamsamchil wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2012 17:28 anrimayu wrote:
Well, the Federation decided to keep the GSL players, Nestea, MVP, MC, Parting, San, DRG, and MKP, from playing in the OSL until Kespa stop being greedy assholes to fuck over esports.


http://www.thisisgame.com/board/view.php?id=1273725&category=102&subcategory=
source

good for them.


We need a translation. Google doesn't cut it.
We think too much and feel too little. More than machinery, we need humanity. More than cleverness, we need kindness and gentleness. Without these qualities, life will be violent and all will be lost. -Charlie Chaplin
artosismermaid
Profile Joined May 2011
213 Posts
August 24 2012 08:32 GMT
#1556
if this is true and the OSL doesn't proceed, this will be the great shitstorm of our time!
achan1058
Profile Joined February 2012
1091 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-24 08:32:39
August 24 2012 08:32 GMT
#1557
On August 24 2012 17:31 anrimayu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2012 17:29 achan1058 wrote:
On August 24 2012 17:28 anrimayu wrote:
Well, the Federation decided to keep the GSL players, Nestea, MVP, MC, Parting, San, DRG, and MKP, from playing in the OSL until Kespa stop being greedy assholes to fuck over esports.
Source?


Source

It's in Korean, basically theyre calling bullshit on Kespa's claims. No surprise there. It's understandable.

Not surprising. The federation teams do not want to give too much power to KeSPA.
On August 24 2012 17:32 artosismermaid wrote:
if this is true and the OSL doesn't proceed, this will be the great shitstorm of our time!

I think it will proceed, just without as much viewership.
Uracil
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany422 Posts
August 24 2012 08:32 GMT
#1558
On August 24 2012 17:28 anrimayu wrote:
Well, the Federation decided to keep the GSL players, Nestea, MVP, MC, Parting, San, DRG, and MKP, from playing in the OSL until Kespa stop being greedy assholes to fuck over esports.

MC is on SK so not part of the federation.
iKill
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Denmark861 Posts
August 24 2012 08:32 GMT
#1559
On August 24 2012 17:29 ilsamsamchil wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2012 17:28 anrimayu wrote:
Well, the Federation decided to keep the GSL players, Nestea, MVP, MC, Parting, San, DRG, and MKP, from playing in the OSL until Kespa stop being greedy assholes to fuck over esports.


http://www.thisisgame.com/board/view.php?id=1273725&category=102&subcategory=
source

short translation: This was an unfortunate turn of event, especially considering it has only been 4 months since the agreement we have made back in may. Looking back at what happened on gomtv classic, we are worried that this is something that could happen all over again well in the future. Under the agreement of all ESF teams and players(who are attending OSL), we have agreed to boycott OSL.


Reason stated are scattered all over the announcement but it's mostly because they are worried that GSL might be squeezed out and that might be the end of ESF as well.


good for them.


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anrimayu
Profile Joined June 2011
United States875 Posts
August 24 2012 08:34 GMT
#1560
On August 24 2012 17:32 Uracil wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2012 17:28 anrimayu wrote:
Well, the Federation decided to keep the GSL players, Nestea, MVP, MC, Parting, San, DRG, and MKP, from playing in the OSL until Kespa stop being greedy assholes to fuck over esports.

MC is on SK so not part of the federation.


It's not, but the article stated MC was in agreement with everyone else to not play along. It wouldn't make sense for MC to go by himself when he knows how Kespa is first hand.
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