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On August 11 2012 22:27 Squeegy wrote:Show nested quote +On August 11 2012 22:01 Eee wrote:On August 11 2012 21:26 Squeegy wrote:On August 11 2012 20:15 Lylat wrote:
I hope he'll train hard and succeed in SC2, it's a shame that such a huge player didn't win anything in SC2, besides ex-WC3 pros are doing well (better than former BW pros :p), and he was one of the best ! Take Stephano out and it's about even between WC3 and BW. Include Koreans and BW absolutely crushes WC3. If we only count foreigners then the wc3 players are doing A LOT better. Top Terrans: ThorZaIN (WC3) Kas (WC3) Demuslim (WC3) Illussion (No former career, played Special Force competetivley) Major (BW) (Happy, BeastyQT, Lucifron are also from wc3, but the dont really have that impressive results so didnt include them) Top Zergs: Stephano (WC3) Nerchio (BW) Ret (BW) Sen (BW) Sheth (BW) Top Protoss: Naniwa (WC3) SaSe (WC3) NightEnd (WC3) Grubby (WC3) Mana (BW) As far as I'm aware there aren't really that many former korean wc3 pros besides Moon, Lyn, Ven, Violet and Polt. I'm not sure what your list is supposed to prove. Put the best five BW players against the best five WC3 players (minus Stephano) and it'll be pretty even. Include Koreans and it won't be even at all. Moreover, a lot of people would disagree with yout top lists. Demuslim, Illusion, Nightend, Grubby? I mean just look here http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Premier_TournamentsWinners, runnerups. I certainly don't see WC3 guys doing much better. But I repeat, include the Koreans (and all WC3 guys) and you have total and utter domination for BW.
Absolutely true, but Wc3 was not nearly as big in KR as it was in EU and also the SC community is way bigger than Wc3 ever was (even though China is huge and took the dominant role in Wc3 at the end and is now the only really active scene there is in Wc3.)
Yes Wc3(especially EU guys) do pretty well, but KR is BW hometurf so no surprise at all that they got the most skilled players with the highest player count that comes naturally with the BW history there.
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On August 11 2012 23:19 Doublemint wrote:Show nested quote +On August 11 2012 22:27 Squeegy wrote:On August 11 2012 22:01 Eee wrote:On August 11 2012 21:26 Squeegy wrote:On August 11 2012 20:15 Lylat wrote:
I hope he'll train hard and succeed in SC2, it's a shame that such a huge player didn't win anything in SC2, besides ex-WC3 pros are doing well (better than former BW pros :p), and he was one of the best ! Take Stephano out and it's about even between WC3 and BW. Include Koreans and BW absolutely crushes WC3. If we only count foreigners then the wc3 players are doing A LOT better. Top Terrans: ThorZaIN (WC3) Kas (WC3) Demuslim (WC3) Illussion (No former career, played Special Force competetivley) Major (BW) (Happy, BeastyQT, Lucifron are also from wc3, but the dont really have that impressive results so didnt include them) Top Zergs: Stephano (WC3) Nerchio (BW) Ret (BW) Sen (BW) Sheth (BW) Top Protoss: Naniwa (WC3) SaSe (WC3) NightEnd (WC3) Grubby (WC3) Mana (BW) As far as I'm aware there aren't really that many former korean wc3 pros besides Moon, Lyn, Ven, Violet and Polt. I'm not sure what your list is supposed to prove. Put the best five BW players against the best five WC3 players (minus Stephano) and it'll be pretty even. Include Koreans and it won't be even at all. Moreover, a lot of people would disagree with yout top lists. Demuslim, Illusion, Nightend, Grubby? I mean just look here http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/Premier_TournamentsWinners, runnerups. I certainly don't see WC3 guys doing much better. But I repeat, include the Koreans (and all WC3 guys) and you have total and utter domination for BW. Absolutely true, but Wc3 was not nearly as big in KR as it was in EU and also the SC community is way bigger than Wc3 ever was (even though China is huge and took the dominant role in Wc3 at the end and is now the only really active scene there is in Wc3.) Yes Wc3(especially EU guys) do pretty well, but KR is BW hometurf so no surprise at all that they got the most skilled players with the highest player count that comes naturally with the BW history there.
There were more foreign WC3 guys than BW guys, but I don't think that's all that interesting. My point was simply that in the foreign scene WC3 top guys aren't better than BW guys. The very best foreign BW guys vs the very best foreign WC3 guys, and it's pretty much even.
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why does it even matter who are doing better between WC3 and BW..... RTS requires a specific set of skills and dedication, whoever has that is going to succeed wether he is from WC3, BW or even fuckin world of warcraft
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PPL like to belong to an exclusive group of people that are excellent at something that is seen as important 
Also - Hope ToD beasting it up!
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On August 11 2012 22:25 Eee wrote:Show nested quote +On August 11 2012 22:09 lolspoon wrote:On August 11 2012 22:01 Eee wrote:On August 11 2012 21:26 Squeegy wrote:On August 11 2012 20:15 Lylat wrote:
I hope he'll train hard and succeed in SC2, it's a shame that such a huge player didn't win anything in SC2, besides ex-WC3 pros are doing well (better than former BW pros :p), and he was one of the best ! Take Stephano out and it's about even between WC3 and BW. Include Koreans and BW absolutely crushes WC3. If we only count foreigners then the wc3 players are doing A LOT better. Top Terrans: ThorZaIN (WC3) Kas (WC3) Demuslim (WC3) Illussion (No former career, played Special Force competetivley) Major (BW) (Happy, BeastyQT, Lucifron are also from wc3, but the dont really have that impressive results so didnt include them) Top Zergs: Stephano (WC3) Nerchio (BW) Ret (BW) Sen (BW) Sheth (BW) Top Protoss: Naniwa (WC3) SaSe (WC3) NightEnd (WC3) Grubby (WC3) Mana (BW) As far as I'm aware there aren't really that many former korean wc3 pros besides Moon, Lyn, Ven, Violet and Polt. Dude Lucifron and Happy have propably the most impressive results from the Terrans ^^ In wc3, but not in sc2.
I think atm Lucifron is the best european terran by far.
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nice, i am now finally a fan of ROOT, cool lineup
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On August 11 2012 23:54 ROOTFayth wrote:
why does it even matter who are doing better between WC3 and BW..... RTS requires a specific set of skills and dedication, whoever has that is going to succeed wether he is from WC3, BW or even fuckin world of warcraft
yeah it's embarrassing sometimes that people still doesn't get it at all.
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Aha, Rotti and ToD the legendary casting duo in the same team! Awesome. Wish they could cast some more stuff together, they fit so perfectly together ;D
Grats!
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Many pickups..now let's see if these pickups have actual results... not "15th in MLG" and so on..that's not a result..that's a plain consolation of a "consolation number" and nobody remembers it.
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ROOT is going to pull some major results in the upcoming tournies, I can feel it!
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how many more players are they going to get!
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that root family tree is growing big
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On August 11 2012 23:54 ROOTFayth wrote:
why does it even matter who are doing better between WC3 and BW..... RTS requires a specific set of skills and dedication, whoever has that is going to succeed wether he is from WC3, BW or even fuckin world of warcraft
because fuck you for not liking the things i like?
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On August 12 2012 01:19 turdburgler wrote:Show nested quote +On August 11 2012 23:54 ROOTFayth wrote:
why does it even matter who are doing better between WC3 and BW..... RTS requires a specific set of skills and dedication, whoever has that is going to succeed wether he is from WC3, BW or even fuckin world of warcraft because fuck you for not liking the things i like?
pardon me?
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On August 12 2012 01:26 ROOTFayth wrote:Show nested quote +On August 12 2012 01:19 turdburgler wrote:On August 11 2012 23:54 ROOTFayth wrote:
why does it even matter who are doing better between WC3 and BW..... RTS requires a specific set of skills and dedication, whoever has that is going to succeed wether he is from WC3, BW or even fuckin world of warcraft because fuck you for not liking the things i like? pardon me?
He said, "because fuck you for not liking the things i like?"
Pleasure to help.
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lol wrong major  PppPppPpPpP
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wow ROOT is getting huuuuuge
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EPT
