On July 31 2012 04:01 playa wrote:
I hate boxer fans. No matter how much I disliked the guy, people would go crazy for him and hype up upcoming games to the point where you can't help but to think you should be excited. Game starts, all hyped up, and 5 mins later the game is over. The most glorified cheeser of all time. Too bad people learned how to stop it. Some pro gamers can't macro apparently. Still hope he loses and stays retired forever.

Son, show some respect. The man could macro just as well as any one else during his day. Not only that, without him, you wouldn't have macro players; without him, you wouldn't have top-tier Terran players; without him, you wouldn't have the esports industry as it is today. And no, I'm not exxagerating.

If he's injured, why is he even playing this showmatch? Won't it do more harm? That's what I think, anyway. It feels like his injury is just an excuse to leave the scene without revealing that he's lost his passion.

Maybe because this is the last OSL? I'm sure that if the last professional baseball game ever were played in a week and a bunch of retired old men were invited for one last game of catch, they would sure as hell show up.

If Boxer could macro at all, I don't think he would have been losing to non Korean players in tournaments or have been demoted to the B team and forced to retire because he couldn't make it in to any lineups. Boxer has the worst win % of anyone that is talked of as god. How many free wins did he get off people when everyone was clueless on how to play? I just don't get the deal about the guy. I'm still irked about being pumped for Oov vs Boxer on rush hour. I knew it was boxer playing, but I felt good about the chances of not seeing 2 rax. Proxy 2 rax in Oov's base, the story of Boxers career. How riveting. Only one can be as gosu as Boxer, even though everyone at low level on ladder seems to be eerily similar.

Just stop. You've demonstrated a complete lack of understanding of how Starcraft developed as an esport and how the esport industry developed. Educate yourself before you continue to talk.

I don't care who the first best player was when everyone sucked. Just like I don't care who the best SC 2 player was during beta. It's ridiculous over glorification, just because of the time period they played in.

Guess what amazing Terran that no one talks about has a better career win percent than Boxer. Midas. I'm happy I wasn't around to see Esports start out in SC, because I derive no enjoyment from watching repeated all-ins. The only series I enjoyed from boxer was vs anytime, where boxer failed with cheese and had to resort to playing like he was a pro gamer, and somehow won.

Woah Woah... this guy is not only hating on cheese, but also boxer. No worries lets just introduce 15m no rush so this guy can enjoy repetitive macro games all day long

To be fair, I remember "back in the day", cheese in general was frowned upon by the community more so than it is now. People did want to see those epic big battle, half map games.. boxer helped change this perception though with his unique style, imo at least. The game was always evolving and others were pulling off good builds as well, it's just boxer was so good at it, for a consistent period of time.

Gerbilkit

United States32 Posts

July 31 2012 01:42 GMT

#103

Obvious troll is obvious.

Anyway I have to say that Boxer's brood war TvZ is probably one of the most exciting and enjoyable sights I've ever seen in professional SC/SC2. He took that match up and turned into a beatiful art form. Just go watch pimpest plays from back in his prime and you'll see some of the most amazing and creative play ever displayed. Even with him and Yellow both old and completely out of shape it should be a pretty great set of games.

-niL

Canada1131 Posts

July 31 2012 01:45 GMT

#104

I KNEW IT

Jaaaaasper

United States10225 Posts

July 31 2012 01:45 GMT

#105

Make all the bunkers!
If it has to end let it end like this, with the best rivalry and hopefully a great final series.

lichter

1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts

July 31 2012 01:52 GMT

#106

Pretty sure Boxer and Yellow will play well. NaDa's showmatch was pretty good, and I heard his streaming of BW games is also impressive considering his time away from the game. When you consider how long they played the game for it's almost like it has become second nature to them

Noocta

France12578 Posts

July 31 2012 02:05 GMT

#107

On July 31 2012 05:58 Kyrillion wrote:

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Is that matchfixer dude who I'm thinking of or simply one of his colleagues ?

It's The One That Shall Not be Named yeah.

Chargelot

2275 Posts

July 31 2012 02:10 GMT

#108

Didn't we try Boxer vs Yellow in the least legendary WWE-style showmatch ever?

amazingxkcd

GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts

July 31 2012 02:16 GMT

#109

damn, I wanted Grrrrr to play.....

eviltomahawk

United States11133 Posts

July 31 2012 02:17 GMT

#110

On July 31 2012 11:10 Chargelot wrote:
Didn't we try Boxer vs Yellow in the least legendary WWE-style showmatch ever?

Yeah, but that was in SC2 back when Boxer was still playing regularly at a high level and YellOw was just a gold league noob.

Now it's in Brood War, which neither player has played extensively in seemingly forever. And since it's at the last BW OSL finals ever, I wouldn't be surprised if they coordinate with each other to make the match as epic as possible instead of being a one-sided smackdown. I personally didn't like the July vs Reach legends match earlier since it was basically Reach smashing July in a few minutes with a ~~Zealot~~ Manlot rush.

Mo0Rauder

Canada182 Posts

July 31 2012 02:36 GMT

#111

On July 31 2012 11:16 amazingxkcd wrote:
damn, I wanted Grrrrr to play.....

Me too

Hes probably playing high-stakes poker in a room with shark tanks for walls, wearing a one piece silver jumpsuit surrounded by white tigers within the room, while each player has 2 personal incredibly beautiful fan girls with giant fan leaves (fanning).

I miss Guillaume's style the most.

TommyP

United States6231 Posts

July 31 2012 02:36 GMT

#112

OMG Im so excited!! All hail the emperor!! What a way to end the greatest era in esports so far. Go Boxer!! Your loyal subjects await your return.

grush57

Korea (South)2582 Posts

July 31 2012 02:40 GMT

#113

On July 31 2012 11:05 Noocta wrote:

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It's The One That Shall Not be Named yeah.

VOLDEMORT

Gamegene

United States8308 Posts

July 31 2012 02:49 GMT

#114

Why post in the SC2 section?

All you're going to get is a bunch of people who bandwagon on recognizable names. Honestly, this is the kind of effort that should have been made last year. But that really has more to do with the people.

aintz

Canada5624 Posts

July 31 2012 02:53 GMT

#115

maybe its time for yellow to win something.

6NR

United States1472 Posts

July 31 2012 02:57 GMT

#116

On July 31 2012 00:41 Azurues wrote:
omg omg omg omg omg

THIS!

And Seeker why is this in SC2 and not in the BW forum?

rasers

Sweden691 Posts

July 31 2012 03:02 GMT

#117

On July 31 2012 11:05 Noocta wrote:

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It's The One That Shall Not be Named yeah.

Ma Jae Yoon?. sAviOr?. MaBonjwa?.

endy

Switzerland8970 Posts

July 31 2012 03:02 GMT

#118

Too bad it's only a bo1, but still glad to see a ultimate LimJinRok.

Seeker

Where dat snitch at?36996 Posts

July 31 2012 03:41 GMT

#119

On July 31 2012 11:57 6NR wrote:

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THIS!

And Seeker why is this in SC2 and not in the BW forum?

I posted this in the SC2 section so that people will be aware that this is coming up. I wanted the SC2 community to know about this so that they could tune in for the final BW finals. This game is the sole reason SC2 exists anyways, so why not pay your respects for the final farewell to an amazing game that kept thousands and thousands of people entertained for 10+ years?

Also, I'm pretty sure this was discussed to death in the BW section so I figured making it there would be redundant.