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On July 29 2012 21:08 Rokoz wrote:
I wonder what happened to the vision that "zerg has softer max army which is easy to replenish", instead we have maxed army that most Terran and Protoss players are most afraid of.
Yeah was thinking the same, Zerg mid-game is what feels most "Zergy", late game is more like some Meching Terran O.o
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Kind of dissapointed at DB's opinion on the queen change. But well Terran's are still capable of winning tournaments so us bad ladder terrans should just man up and play better.
@ Serelitz
Massive thanks, you saved me 20 minutes of my life.
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On July 29 2012 21:26 Kaos_StarCraft wrote:
Wow whats with all the people riding DBs dick?
If only his game design was even half as good as his PR abilities.
AHAHAA "best of 8"
If only designing game is as easy as posting shit. The community need to be more mature.
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Please just increase the range of Seeker missile.
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On July 29 2012 21:49 Wildmoon wrote:Show nested quote +On July 29 2012 21:26 Kaos_StarCraft wrote:
Wow whats with all the people riding DBs dick?
If only his game design was even half as good as his PR abilities.
AHAHAA "best of 8" If only designing game is as easy as posting shit. The community need to be more mature.
The guy has 12 posts and I'm sure he'll be banned soon enough. TL community is mature enough for a reason :p
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On July 29 2012 21:51 Black[CAT] wrote:
Please just increase the range of Seeker missile.
I am thinking about how much reducing Smissile's energy cost and increase Raven's movement speed will help. I think for its role Raven need to be more mobile.
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On July 29 2012 20:57 Na_Dann_Ma_GoGo wrote:Show nested quote +On July 29 2012 20:37 OrbitalPlane wrote:
so funny DB talked for 30min and basically said nothing of substance. This fucking mentality, what can I even say to that. Always the same people saying every interview is shit and those guys never say anything of substance but the moment guys like you find the slightest thing they can take out of context or misinterpret on purpose you will do so. E.g. the Raven "statement" in this case. Just fuck this. There's a reason Blizzard is so cautious with interviews, they know very well how the community likes to tear them apart for everything they say.
Why are you so mad?
I didn't criticize the interview. The questions were good and DB answered them as good as he could. If he doesn't know when the beta starts he obviously can't tell us. Nothing wrong with that.
But in the end my statement is still true. There was nothing surprising new in his answers and everything he said was already known/expected. So i informed the people that are considering watching the whole 30 minutes. If they are still interested good, if not i saved them 30 minutes.
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On July 29 2012 22:12 OrbitalPlane wrote:Show nested quote +On July 29 2012 20:57 Na_Dann_Ma_GoGo wrote:On July 29 2012 20:37 OrbitalPlane wrote:
so funny DB talked for 30min and basically said nothing of substance. This fucking mentality, what can I even say to that. Always the same people saying every interview is shit and those guys never say anything of substance but the moment guys like you find the slightest thing they can take out of context or misinterpret on purpose you will do so. E.g. the Raven "statement" in this case. Just fuck this. There's a reason Blizzard is so cautious with interviews, they know very well how the community likes to tear them apart for everything they say. Why are you so mad? I didn't criticize the interview. The questions were good and DB answered them as good as he could. If he doesn't know when the beta starts he obviously can't tell us. Nothing wrong with that. But in the end my statement is still true. There was nothing surprising new in his answers and everything he said was already known/expected. So i informed the people that are considering watching the whole 30 minutes. If they are still interested good, if not i saved them 30 minutes.
Saying nothing of substance and saying nothing new is completely different tough.
You made it sound like he was blabbering instead of answering the questions.
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DB seems like a total bro. HotS is looking awesome!
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On July 29 2012 22:18 Assirra wrote:Show nested quote +On July 29 2012 22:12 OrbitalPlane wrote:On July 29 2012 20:57 Na_Dann_Ma_GoGo wrote:On July 29 2012 20:37 OrbitalPlane wrote:
so funny DB talked for 30min and basically said nothing of substance. This fucking mentality, what can I even say to that. Always the same people saying every interview is shit and those guys never say anything of substance but the moment guys like you find the slightest thing they can take out of context or misinterpret on purpose you will do so. E.g. the Raven "statement" in this case. Just fuck this. There's a reason Blizzard is so cautious with interviews, they know very well how the community likes to tear them apart for everything they say. Why are you so mad? I didn't criticize the interview. The questions were good and DB answered them as good as he could. If he doesn't know when the beta starts he obviously can't tell us. Nothing wrong with that. But in the end my statement is still true. There was nothing surprising new in his answers and everything he said was already known/expected. So i informed the people that are considering watching the whole 30 minutes. If they are still interested good, if not i saved them 30 minutes. Saying nothing of substance and saying nothing new is completely different tough. You made it sound like he was blabbering instead of answering the questions.
It doesn't help that he sort of dodged half of the questions or just said that he feels that Terran is "balanced" overall due to tournament results. Hello Dustin, if you have watched any tournament you'd know that Terran has the least representation of any race and has only won a single tournament since the Queen buff. Terran has had the worst representation out of every race in the top 8 of every tournament, and if he wants to use tournament winnings as balance proof, he should at least do some studying or find out about each tournament before commenting on it.
I don't care if he thinks the game is balanced, but using statistics that I can disprove by just going into liquidpedia and looking at the top 8 of the recent major tournaments is weak. I also am not a huge fan of their using the ladder statistics to make balance calls, as their are many maphackers/cheesers/smurfs on the ladder and they have never released how they "adjust" the win rates to account for the MMR system.
It wasn't a bad interview, I was just particularly dissatisfied with how he answered the question of TvZ. It's not just a matter of cost efficiency if the Terran is on half the economy of the Zerg when he kills all those workers. I trust that Blzzard will balance the game eventually, but I wish that for the remainder of WoL they would nerf/revert the queen buff.
That's just my $.02 on the interview though.I think that he did pretty well in that interview overall, but there were just a few things that I felt he left unanswered =/
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On July 29 2012 22:18 Assirra wrote:Show nested quote +On July 29 2012 22:12 OrbitalPlane wrote:On July 29 2012 20:57 Na_Dann_Ma_GoGo wrote:On July 29 2012 20:37 OrbitalPlane wrote:
so funny DB talked for 30min and basically said nothing of substance. This fucking mentality, what can I even say to that. Always the same people saying every interview is shit and those guys never say anything of substance but the moment guys like you find the slightest thing they can take out of context or misinterpret on purpose you will do so. E.g. the Raven "statement" in this case. Just fuck this. There's a reason Blizzard is so cautious with interviews, they know very well how the community likes to tear them apart for everything they say. Why are you so mad? I didn't criticize the interview. The questions were good and DB answered them as good as he could. If he doesn't know when the beta starts he obviously can't tell us. Nothing wrong with that. But in the end my statement is still true. There was nothing surprising new in his answers and everything he said was already known/expected. So i informed the people that are considering watching the whole 30 minutes. If they are still interested good, if not i saved them 30 minutes. Saying nothing of substance and saying nothing new is completely different tough. You made it sound like he was blabbering instead of answering the questions.
What i meant to say is that there was no real specific content in his answers.
It was not my intention to say that his answers did not make any sense.
I am not a native speaker. So you say substance is the wrong word for that?
What i mean for example:
10:54 Will WCS continue after this season?
-Not sure but that's the plan.
A detailed answer would be: We are planning on doing the next wcs in February with after the launch of HOTS.
But he can't give that answer because (i assume) he doesn't have those specifics yet.
And his answer is like exactly what everyone expected/assumed anyway. There was the blizzard tournament last year in polen. There is WCS this year, why wouldn't be there anything next year?
His answer is why not if it goes well. But this answer does not give any inside, everbody (that don't work at blizzard) could have given that answer. I just expected some inside in this interview but there was no such thing imho.
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Thanks for the transcript, much appreciated 
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@ Orbital
Are you kidding me?
so funny DB talked for 30min and basically said nothing of substance.
That's what you said and there's nothing but negativity in that statement. And it's not even true, Dustin Browder answers pretty much all questions.
Nothing of substance implies there's nothing you can take away from this at all, which isn't the case. Next time stype "he didn't announce any specific tournament information and the like" if that's what you want to say. And don't be so "superior" about it.
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LOL REALLY AWESOME INTERVIEW!
Love how he explained how blizzard employees play random (or maybe it's a cover up and they're actually required to play random?) and also explained the shirts (explains why david kim wears that terran shirt -- it's not a terran shirt, it's a WoL shirt)
also he praised the community and stuff and said they would like to address many of the concerns showed in the questions
LOL WC4
Really awesome interview, thanks!
On July 29 2012 22:30 OrbitalPlane wrote:Show nested quote +On July 29 2012 22:18 Assirra wrote:On July 29 2012 22:12 OrbitalPlane wrote:On July 29 2012 20:57 Na_Dann_Ma_GoGo wrote:On July 29 2012 20:37 OrbitalPlane wrote:
so funny DB talked for 30min and basically said nothing of substance. This fucking mentality, what can I even say to that. Always the same people saying every interview is shit and those guys never say anything of substance but the moment guys like you find the slightest thing they can take out of context or misinterpret on purpose you will do so. E.g. the Raven "statement" in this case. Just fuck this. There's a reason Blizzard is so cautious with interviews, they know very well how the community likes to tear them apart for everything they say. Why are you so mad? I didn't criticize the interview. The questions were good and DB answered them as good as he could. If he doesn't know when the beta starts he obviously can't tell us. Nothing wrong with that. But in the end my statement is still true. There was nothing surprising new in his answers and everything he said was already known/expected. So i informed the people that are considering watching the whole 30 minutes. If they are still interested good, if not i saved them 30 minutes. Saying nothing of substance and saying nothing new is completely different tough. You made it sound like he was blabbering instead of answering the questions. What i meant to say is that there was no real specific content in his answers. It was not my intention to say that his answers did not make any sense. I am not a native speaker. So you say substance is the wrong word for that? What i mean for example: 10:54 Will WCS continue after this season? -Not sure but that's the plan. A detailed answer would be: We are planning on doing the next wcs in February with after the launch of HOTS. But he can't give that answer because (i assume) he doesn't have those specifics yet.
... as you said yourself, he probably doesn't have those specifics yet. And you know what? That counts as content right there. Simply knowing that it's planned to continue, but they don't know the specifics yet. But if you are talking about "no real specific content", like the kind given in that example, i'm not sure what other questions there were where he didn't give specific enough information for it to be informative.
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On July 29 2012 22:35 Na_Dann_Ma_GoGo wrote:
Dustin Browder answers pretty much all questions.
I never said he didn't. read my post again. I said he didn't had real new shocking details in his answers that nobody knew before.
Nothing of substance implies there's nothing you can take away from this at all.
That's exactly what i am saying. There was nothing he said that i didn't know or expected already. As a result i didn't take away a lot in watching it.
On July 29 2012 22:37 Yoshi Kirishima wrote:
But if you are talking about "no real specific content", like the kind given in that example, i'm not sure what other questions there were where he didn't give specific enough information for it to be informative.
This is my whole point. I felt that way at all other questions aswell. Feel free to pick one.
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On July 29 2012 22:43 OrbitalPlane wrote:Show nested quote +On July 29 2012 22:35 Na_Dann_Ma_GoGo wrote:
Dustin Browder answers pretty much all questions.
I never said he didn't. read my post again. I said he didn't had real new shocking details in his answers that nobody knew before. Show nested quote +
Nothing of substance implies there's nothing you can take away from this at all.
That's exactly what i am saying. There was nothing he said that i didn't know or expected already. As a result i didn't take away a lot in watching it. Show nested quote +On July 29 2012 22:37 Yoshi Kirishima wrote:
But if you are talking about "no real specific content", like the kind given in that example, i'm not sure what other questions there were where he didn't give specific enough information for it to be informative. This is my whole point. I felt that way at all other questions aswell. Feel free to pick one.
slick cover up... lol
Always nice to hear from the devs, but the questions are getting a bit repetitive if you've seen some of the gamespot interviews already.
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Interesting interview, as always is the case with DB.
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On July 29 2012 22:43 OrbitalPlane wrote:Show nested quote +On July 29 2012 22:35 Na_Dann_Ma_GoGo wrote:
Dustin Browder answers pretty much all questions.
I never said he didn't. read my post again. I said he didn't had real new shocking details in his answers that nobody knew before. Show nested quote +
Nothing of substance implies there's nothing you can take away from this at all.
That's exactly what i am saying. There was nothing he said that i didn't know or expected already. As a result i didn't take away a lot in watching it. Show nested quote +On July 29 2012 22:37 Yoshi Kirishima wrote:
But if you are talking about "no real specific content", like the kind given in that example, i'm not sure what other questions there were where he didn't give specific enough information for it to be informative. This is my whole point. I felt that way at all other questions aswell. Feel free to pick one.
It's a little confusing because it seems you are exaggerating that there is 0% substance, because you say you "didn't take away a lot in watching it", meaning that you did take away some, even if it was very little, but you also say "that's exactly what i am saying" in response to "there's nothing you can take away from this at all".
If you are exaggerating, then I don't think I need to provide any examples. I see what you are saying, that nothing was really shocking, but then again, the questions themselves weren't very shocking or unique neither. They may be interesting, but they are questions regarding things that have been discussed/mentioned before in any kind of form.
If you're not exaggerating, then there's a lot you can take away, even things such as how they still don't know when Beta will come out, WC4 is still not in development and they are not even sure if they want to work on that next, they want to improve many things including stats/ranking/etc. but they have a long list of things to work on (implying they could use a bigger team and/or these areas are actually much more difficult to work on than the community believes it to be), queen change is working as intended and the reason for the queen buff is indeed that they felt zerg didn't have enough options to stop terran from opening and containing zergs with hellions all the time, etc.
Either way, even if the information is not shocking, the questions weren't exploring new topics not already discussed decently before, and even if there was not a lot of new info, many concerns were clarified and some insight was provided regarding the way blizzard does things to address the community's concerns.
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On July 29 2012 23:00 Yoshi Kirishima wrote:Show nested quote +On July 29 2012 22:43 OrbitalPlane wrote:On July 29 2012 22:35 Na_Dann_Ma_GoGo wrote:
Dustin Browder answers pretty much all questions.
I never said he didn't. read my post again. I said he didn't had real new shocking details in his answers that nobody knew before.
Nothing of substance implies there's nothing you can take away from this at all.
That's exactly what i am saying. There was nothing he said that i didn't know or expected already. As a result i didn't take away a lot in watching it. On July 29 2012 22:37 Yoshi Kirishima wrote:
But if you are talking about "no real specific content", like the kind given in that example, i'm not sure what other questions there were where he didn't give specific enough information for it to be informative. This is my whole point. I felt that way at all other questions aswell. Feel free to pick one. It's a little confusing because it seems you are exaggerating that there is 0% substance, because you say you "didn't take away a lot in watching it", meaning that you did take away some, even if it was very little, but you also say "that's exactly what i am saying" in response to "there's nothing you can take away from this at all". If you are exaggerating, then I don't think I need to provide any examples. I see what you are saying, that nothing was really shocking, but then again, the questions themselves weren't very shocking or unique neither. They may be interesting, but they are questions regarding things that have been discussed/mentioned before in any kind of form. If you're not exaggerating, then there's a lot you can take away, even things such as how they still don't know when Beta will come out, WC4 is still not in development and they are not even sure if they want to work on that next, they want to improve many things including stats/ranking/etc. but they have a long list of things to work on (implying they could use a bigger team and/or these areas are actually much more difficult to work on than the community believes it to be), queen change is working as intended and the reason for the queen buff is indeed that they felt zerg didn't have enough options to stop terran from opening and containing zergs with hellions all the time, etc.
You have a lot of good points here and i understand that my first post conceived so negatively.
I think i watched every single interview with DB that is out there, and a lot of the "interesting facts" that you are listing were already answered there. They were not knew to me. =/
I said "didn't take away a lot in watching it" instead of anything, because you souldn't use those absulute statements.
Never say never because there is always one exclusion (that is absurd and that you don't realize when you say it.) 
Either way, even if the information is not shocking, the questions weren't exploring new topics not already discussed decently before, and even if there was not a lot of new info, many concerns were clarified and some insight was provided regarding the way blizzard does things to address the community's concerns.
This is very well said and i should have said it in that positive way in the first place.
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Despite all that I think about SC2 development and direction (none of it being very good in my eyes), I still can't help but like Dustin Browder. 
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