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Xoronius
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany6362 Posts
February 13 2013 22:57 GMT
#1021
Continue or start with the new GSL champion. MLG is not THE tournament; I don´t think it would be appropriate to start with the MLG champion, otherwise you would have to rewrite the WoL-championship starting with Morrow because of IEM Cologne as well. I personally would prefer the continue the line.
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
February 13 2013 23:10 GMT
#1022
Life is never going to lose a series again anyway, you guys are over thinking this.

But seriously, GSL is > MLG but this GSL is not HOTS It's wol so I see no reason it would award the HOTS unofficial world champion title. either MLG winner or keep current one.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97277 Posts
February 13 2013 23:11 GMT
#1023
On February 14 2013 08:10 Dodgin wrote:
Life is never going to lose a series again anyway, you guys are over thinking this.

But seriously, GSL is > MLG but this GSL is not HOTS It's wol so I see no reason it would award the HOTS unofficial world champion title. either MLG winner or keep current one.

I think it means 2013 Season 2 since it's HoTS. Like hold off until then
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opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54785 Posts
February 13 2013 23:11 GMT
#1024
On February 14 2013 08:10 Dodgin wrote:
Life is never going to lose a series again anyway, you guys are over thinking this.

But seriously, GSL is > MLG but this GSL is not HOTS It's wol so I see no reason it would award the HOTS unofficial world champion title. either MLG winner or keep current one.

i meant the next GSL winner for the first HOTS world champ~

what would you guys do if, say, eve beats life in the GSTL pre-season? probably keep life aye?
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97277 Posts
February 13 2013 23:11 GMT
#1025
On February 14 2013 08:11 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2013 08:10 Dodgin wrote:
Life is never going to lose a series again anyway, you guys are over thinking this.

But seriously, GSL is > MLG but this GSL is not HOTS It's wol so I see no reason it would award the HOTS unofficial world champion title. either MLG winner or keep current one.

i meant the next GSL winner for the first HOTS world champ~

what would you guys do if, say, eve beats life in the GSTL pre-season? probably keep life aye?

Aphrodite all kill says otherwise
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Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
February 13 2013 23:12 GMT
#1026
On February 14 2013 08:11 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2013 08:10 Dodgin wrote:
Life is never going to lose a series again anyway, you guys are over thinking this.

But seriously, GSL is > MLG but this GSL is not HOTS It's wol so I see no reason it would award the HOTS unofficial world champion title. either MLG winner or keep current one.

i meant the next GSL winner for the first HOTS world champ~

what would you guys do if, say, eve beats life in the GSTL pre-season? probably keep life aye?


if eve manages to beat life she deserves the title forever
bittman
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia8759 Posts
February 13 2013 23:21 GMT
#1027
Wait. Why is there a discussion that HotS should change anything?

The world champion doesn't end somewhere. There must always be one! If Life loses a game then obviously he's not fit to be the unofficial world champion. Isn't this the point of the entire UWC belt? Everything offline should count. It's volatile. It's random. It's funny.

If Life loses in a Bo1 GSTL beta-HotS comp then so be it. World champs have been knocked out in team league snipes since the beginning.

Should definitely continue is my vote. What good is it being in a world where we don't have a UWC? Even for a month?
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Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17750 Posts
February 13 2013 23:37 GMT
#1028
On February 14 2013 08:21 bittman wrote:
Wait. Why is there a discussion that HotS should change anything?

The world champion doesn't end somewhere. There must always be one! If Life loses a game then obviously he's not fit to be the unofficial world champion. Isn't this the point of the entire UWC belt? Everything offline should count. It's volatile. It's random. It's funny.

If Life loses in a Bo1 GSTL beta-HotS comp then so be it. World champs have been knocked out in team league snipes since the beginning.

Should definitely continue is my vote. What good is it being in a world where we don't have a UWC? Even for a month?

Agreed, just continue it as normal, HotS or not. SC2 is SC2 for the purposes of UWC
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Kiyo.
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2284 Posts
February 13 2013 23:38 GMT
#1029
The other argument is these are basically showmatches (as shown by the starting players) and shouldn't be taken seriously at all.
KT Rolster & StarTale <3 | twitter.com/RayFoxII - twitch.tv/RayFoxII
Boucot
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
France15997 Posts
February 13 2013 23:38 GMT
#1030
What if we split the title into multiple titles :

- WoL Champion
- HotS Champion
- LotV Champion

- Overall SC2 Champion
Former SC2 writer for Millenium - twitter.com/Boucot
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54785 Posts
February 13 2013 23:47 GMT
#1031
On February 14 2013 08:38 Kiyo. wrote:
The other argument is these are basically showmatches (as shown by the starting players) and shouldn't be taken seriously at all.

we've counted showmatches before so long as they are live on-location broadcasted!
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Martijn
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Netherlands1219 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-13 23:55:21
February 13 2013 23:54 GMT
#1032
Continue on, nothing changes. This just gives us a chance to award a lifetime award, as soon as an UWC drops the title in HotS we do the math.
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Zeon0
Profile Joined September 2010
Austria2995 Posts
February 13 2013 23:58 GMT
#1033
imo HotS should not be counted till its release
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SCM.geauxsu
Profile Joined September 2011
United States56 Posts
February 13 2013 23:58 GMT
#1034
October 16 2011:
HuK defeats TheStC at MLG Orlando.

This is incorrect, it was MC vs HuK
wat
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54785 Posts
February 14 2013 00:01 GMT
#1035
On February 14 2013 08:58 SCM.geauxsu wrote:
October 16 2011:
HuK defeats TheStC at MLG Orlando.

This is incorrect, it was MC vs HuK

check your information again please
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Roxor9999
Profile Joined December 2011
Netherlands771 Posts
February 14 2013 00:07 GMT
#1036
On February 14 2013 08:47 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2013 08:38 Kiyo. wrote:
The other argument is these are basically showmatches (as shown by the starting players) and shouldn't be taken seriously at all.

we've counted showmatches before so long as they are live on-location broadcasted!

If showmatches played in a live setting count, then why wasn't white-ra champion after he beat idra at wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/ASUS_ROG_Stars_Invite in one of the showmatches after the event?
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17750 Posts
February 14 2013 00:10 GMT
#1037
On February 14 2013 09:07 Roxor9999 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2013 08:47 opterown wrote:
On February 14 2013 08:38 Kiyo. wrote:
The other argument is these are basically showmatches (as shown by the starting players) and shouldn't be taken seriously at all.

we've counted showmatches before so long as they are live on-location broadcasted!

If showmatches played in a live setting count, then why wasn't white-ra champion after he beat idra at wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/ASUS_ROG_Stars_Invite in one of the showmatches after the event?

was there prize money?
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Roxor9999
Profile Joined December 2011
Netherlands771 Posts
February 14 2013 00:12 GMT
#1038
On February 14 2013 09:10 Die4Ever wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2013 09:07 Roxor9999 wrote:
On February 14 2013 08:47 opterown wrote:
On February 14 2013 08:38 Kiyo. wrote:
The other argument is these are basically showmatches (as shown by the starting players) and shouldn't be taken seriously at all.

we've counted showmatches before so long as they are live on-location broadcasted!

If showmatches played in a live setting count, then why wasn't white-ra champion after he beat idra at wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/ASUS_ROG_Stars_Invite in one of the showmatches after the event?

was there prize money?

Yes $1000.
Kiyo.
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2284 Posts
February 14 2013 00:15 GMT
#1039
So either we count showmatches and the whole list is wrong, or we don't and the list is still wrong? What showmatches were counted previously?
KT Rolster & StarTale <3 | twitter.com/RayFoxII - twitch.tv/RayFoxII
Cokefreak
Profile Joined June 2011
Finland8096 Posts
February 14 2013 00:20 GMT
#1040
Oh god it's broken now?
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