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Please stop with the jokes/posts that speculate something sexual or scandalous is at play here. They do not contribute to discussion and are generally of very poor taste.
Odanrot
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States37 Posts
July 18 2012 06:24 GMT
#1301
Ugh...does anyone know if all users on GOM can watch Hero vs MMA? Like even if they don't have a ticket?
Play the game like a RPG, if you don't play you will not level up; you will always be behind.
KunFuSion
Profile Joined May 2011
United States189 Posts
July 18 2012 06:26 GMT
#1302
On July 18 2012 15:24 Odanrot wrote:
Ugh...does anyone know if all users on GOM can watch Hero vs MMA? Like even if they don't have a ticket?


Yes, it's free for the standard quality.
Gotta always protect them mcnuggets.
Sea_Food
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Finland1612 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-18 06:26:34
July 18 2012 06:26 GMT
#1303
On July 18 2012 15:10 chipmonklord17 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2012 15:07 Sea_Food wrote:
On July 18 2012 14:02 BBMorti wrote:
Why is MMA so specific about wanting to join a foreigner team? It seems to be a trend with many of the Koreans really.


Because the money is outside korea.

Look at GSL. There is only half the events this year, than there were last year. Also hardly 50 people come to the GOM studio for free to watch GSL. Thousands of forgeiners pay 20-30$ to watch some 2nd tier players play.


I highly doubt even a dime of the money that is collected as entrance fees to events even comes close to touching a players' pocket so although yes there is more money, I'd be willing to garuntee it doesn't come from that $20-$30. Unless I'm missing some foriegn tournament where the prize money is affected by how many people pay to enter the venue.


The point is foreigners have this "we must make esports grow" mentality, when Koreans are not willing to pay for esports entertainment.
This also attracts sponsors for teams, which means higher salary for players.
herbie
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
140 Posts
July 18 2012 06:31 GMT
#1304
Don't disappoint me MMA
zefreak
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States2731 Posts
July 18 2012 06:31 GMT
#1305
If I lived in korea I would probably watch every day of GSL live. They don't know how lucky they are!
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dsousa
Profile Joined October 2011
United States1363 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-18 06:36:20
July 18 2012 06:33 GMT
#1306
Why did Slayer need to announce this demotion of MMA?

His status on the team is a purely internal matter, it doesn't affect his GSL appearance tonight.....why is a press release needed?

I can only think of two reasons.
1. To explain why a player of MMA's stature was demoted
2. To harm and shame MMA.

Since they intentional left out the reason, its seems clear they simply wanted to hurt him.

Am I missing something? I just don't see how this is defensible from Slayers standpoint.... they could have kept it quiet, but they didn't want to.

They wanted to give out no information, other than to shame and hurt MMA before this code A match.



Surrealistic
Profile Joined September 2009
311 Posts
July 18 2012 06:43 GMT
#1307
Yeah maybe they did just intend to humiliate him. If he truly did have a stand in this case, then he would have simply reveal why Slayers came to this decision, but it does seem MMA himself would feel ashamed for the reason to be revealed. This does have Jessica written all over it. She overreacts so badly, I wonder how much control Boxer truly has.
S_SienZ
Profile Joined September 2011
1878 Posts
July 18 2012 07:05 GMT
#1308
Word in Korea would get out eventually that he's demoted so they'd rather it come out in the open with it.

People who point the finger at Jessica with this lack of information either know something other people don't or are just plain prejudicial.
Nekovivie
Profile Joined October 2011
United Kingdom2599 Posts
July 18 2012 07:06 GMT
#1309
Surprised its been a full 24 hours now without any new info =o
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Oiseaux
Profile Joined May 2011
United States676 Posts
July 18 2012 07:13 GMT
#1310
On July 18 2012 16:05 S_SienZ wrote:
Word in Korea would get out eventually that he's demoted so they'd rather it come out in the open with it.

People who point the finger at Jessica with this lack of information either know something other people don't or are just plain prejudicial.



You really think all the people pointing fingers at Jessica are credible enough to consider their speculation seriously?
"[S]o be ready to kiss a few donkeys with glued-on paper horns during your unicorn hunt." -Some stupid 4x4 magazine
iGrok
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5142 Posts
July 18 2012 07:17 GMT
#1311
On July 18 2012 15:33 dsousa wrote:
Why did Slayer need to announce this demotion of MMA?

His status on the team is a purely internal matter, it doesn't affect his GSL appearance tonight.....why is a press release needed?

I can only think of two reasons.
1. To explain why a player of MMA's stature was demoted
2. To harm and shame MMA.

Since they intentional left out the reason, its seems clear they simply wanted to hurt him.

Am I missing something? I just don't see how this is defensible from Slayers standpoint.... they could have kept it quiet, but they didn't want to.

They wanted to give out no information, other than to shame and hurt MMA before this code A match.


You can't keep quiet that you've kicked one of your star players out of the house. If the news broke later and they hadn't said anything, there would be a much bigger controversy.
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Shai
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada806 Posts
July 18 2012 07:17 GMT
#1312
On July 18 2012 16:13 Oiseaux wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2012 16:05 S_SienZ wrote:
Word in Korea would get out eventually that he's demoted so they'd rather it come out in the open with it.

People who point the finger at Jessica with this lack of information either know something other people don't or are just plain prejudicial.



You really think all the people pointing fingers at Jessica are credible enough to consider their speculation seriously?


He was suggesting the majority of people are the latter.

I think it's not a horrible assumption that Jessica probably was negatively involved here; she's had two ridiculous public outbursts in the past, hasn't she? I don't recall specifically, but one was at the online community in general.
Eagerly awaiting Techies.
SedativeDev
Profile Joined August 2010
Slovenia316 Posts
July 18 2012 07:20 GMT
#1313
So no more in depth news on this?
Artifice
Profile Joined May 2010
United States523 Posts
July 18 2012 07:21 GMT
#1314
On July 18 2012 16:17 Shai wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2012 16:13 Oiseaux wrote:
On July 18 2012 16:05 S_SienZ wrote:
Word in Korea would get out eventually that he's demoted so they'd rather it come out in the open with it.

People who point the finger at Jessica with this lack of information either know something other people don't or are just plain prejudicial.



You really think all the people pointing fingers at Jessica are credible enough to consider their speculation seriously?


He was suggesting the majority of people are the latter.

I think it's not a horrible assumption that Jessica probably was negatively involved here; she's had two ridiculous public outbursts in the past, hasn't she? I don't recall specifically, but one was at the online community in general.


Right, they don't have any evidence at this point, they're just basing it on the past, and since there is no evidence, that tends to be what people do. Whether that is right or wrong, well, that's not the point, I guess.
iKill
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Denmark861 Posts
July 18 2012 07:28 GMT
#1315
On July 18 2012 16:17 Shai wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2012 16:13 Oiseaux wrote:
On July 18 2012 16:05 S_SienZ wrote:
Word in Korea would get out eventually that he's demoted so they'd rather it come out in the open with it.

People who point the finger at Jessica with this lack of information either know something other people don't or are just plain prejudicial.



You really think all the people pointing fingers at Jessica are credible enough to consider their speculation seriously?


He was suggesting the majority of people are the latter.

I think it's not a horrible assumption that Jessica probably was negatively involved here; she's had two ridiculous public outbursts in the past, hasn't she? I don't recall specifically, but one was at the online community in general.


I remember Evegate and the Dragon scandal, any others?
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Xlancer
Profile Joined February 2010
United States126 Posts
July 18 2012 07:32 GMT
#1316
Wow it's been well over 24hrs now, and still no press release. This seems very unprofessional on team slayers part. You can't just announce that you're demoting your star player and not give a reason.
“The only thing we learn from history is that we learn nothing from history.” - Friedrich Hegel
NexCa
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany954 Posts
July 18 2012 07:37 GMT
#1317
Liquid´MMA incoming

on a serious note, from i've heard, SK-Gaming seems to have an interest on MMA
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dsousa
Profile Joined October 2011
United States1363 Posts
July 18 2012 07:39 GMT
#1318
On July 18 2012 16:28 iKill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2012 16:17 Shai wrote:
On July 18 2012 16:13 Oiseaux wrote:
On July 18 2012 16:05 S_SienZ wrote:
Word in Korea would get out eventually that he's demoted so they'd rather it come out in the open with it.

People who point the finger at Jessica with this lack of information either know something other people don't or are just plain prejudicial.



You really think all the people pointing fingers at Jessica are credible enough to consider their speculation seriously?


He was suggesting the majority of people are the latter.

I think it's not a horrible assumption that Jessica probably was negatively involved here; she's had two ridiculous public outbursts in the past, hasn't she? I don't recall specifically, but one was at the online community in general.


I remember Evegate and the Dragon scandal, any others?


Didn't she also sue someone over mean posts on message boards?
PresenceSc2
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia4032 Posts
July 18 2012 07:40 GMT
#1319
On July 18 2012 16:37 NexCa wrote:
Liquid´MMA incoming

on a serious note, from i've heard, SK-Gaming seems to have an interest on MMA

lol

imagine LG-IM-SK with NesTea, MVP, MC, MMA @_@
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NHY
Profile Joined October 2010
1013 Posts
July 18 2012 07:40 GMT
#1320
On July 18 2012 16:17 iGrok wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2012 15:33 dsousa wrote:
Why did Slayer need to announce this demotion of MMA?

His status on the team is a purely internal matter, it doesn't affect his GSL appearance tonight.....why is a press release needed?

I can only think of two reasons.
1. To explain why a player of MMA's stature was demoted
2. To harm and shame MMA.

Since they intentional left out the reason, its seems clear they simply wanted to hurt him.

Am I missing something? I just don't see how this is defensible from Slayers standpoint.... they could have kept it quiet, but they didn't want to.

They wanted to give out no information, other than to shame and hurt MMA before this code A match.


You can't keep quiet that you've kicked one of your star players out of the house. If the news broke later and they hadn't said anything, there would be a much bigger controversy.


I agree. If Slayers hadn't released the statement, rumors/speculations would have gone full overdrive. There is no way they could keep something this big a secret.
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