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On July 18 2012 00:56 namste wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2012 00:50 Greggle wrote:On July 18 2012 00:43 opterown wrote:On July 18 2012 00:36 RainSunShowers wrote:On July 18 2012 00:32 vthree wrote:On July 18 2012 00:07 EmilA wrote:On July 18 2012 00:05 The Final Boss wrote:On July 17 2012 23:56 mrRoflpwn wrote:
MMA? The ONLY terran to rival MVP. How could he be demoted to the B team just for missing one season of Code S? Taeja beat Mvp...  And I think if you read the OP or any of the pages in this thread, it is pretty clear that this is not for performance issues alone. And right now MMA probably could not beat Mvp. Idra crushed mvp 2-0. MMA still top 5 terran, which of course doesn't put you that high with the current game balance, but he's still a top top terran. Personally, I see MKP, MVP, Byun, Taeja as the clear top 4 (no specific order). Then you have a large logjam with Jjajki, Gumiho, aLive, Keen, MMA, Ryung who all show they can compete with the very best but just not as consistent. Poor Polt, maybe not the very best terran, but he is at the top polt isn't so hot lately http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/details.php?section=sc2-korean&type=players&id=1856&part=games&league=standard Polt isn't anywhere near the top. I don't think he can ride his Super Tournament win any further. He hasn't had any other big success. And I agree on that top 4, but I disagree with lumping MMA in with the others, he's significantly ahead of everyone else in that list in terms of accomplishments and sustained an extremely high level of skill for more than half a year. Jjakji had one fleeting success, but has yet to prove it wasn't a fluke in my eyes. And Keen? Sure he looks amazing every now and then, but then he just crumbles and goes back to being a gatekeeper. He won Asus ROG too and some other stuff, http://sc2earnings.com/player/172/choi-seong-hun he's up there  Not much behind MMA and DRG for example.
Minor foreign tournaments don't come anywhere near the GSL and GSTL in terms of skill though. Polt has basically been flying around picking up easy money crushing foreigners and playing against the handful of Koreans that were either invited or had a sponsor to fly them out. You can't even begin to compare that to DRG's or MMA's accomplishments in Korea.
They may be winning less money doing what they do, but they play a hell of a lot harder to do it.
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StartaleQ MMA, make it happen aphrodite
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agreed with setzer, nicely said
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If MMA joins a new team though I want him to join something with really good, quality practice opportunities, I really want to see him shine again. (Not saying that SlayerS has bad practice, SlayerS knows their shit)
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If MMA joins Q.ST he'd become God of TvP, lol.
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On July 18 2012 01:01 OpTicalRH wrote:StartaleQ MMA, make it happen aphrodite
Best part of that picture is Naniwa sleeping in the corner. "Yeah you're good, and we can play you, but you already know we're not going to"
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StarTale would be a great new home for him, I don't think StarTale has the money or room to support him though with all their recent acquisitions.
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On July 18 2012 01:01 Greggle wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2012 00:56 namste wrote:On July 18 2012 00:50 Greggle wrote:On July 18 2012 00:43 opterown wrote:On July 18 2012 00:36 RainSunShowers wrote:On July 18 2012 00:32 vthree wrote:On July 18 2012 00:07 EmilA wrote:On July 18 2012 00:05 The Final Boss wrote:On July 17 2012 23:56 mrRoflpwn wrote:
MMA? The ONLY terran to rival MVP. How could he be demoted to the B team just for missing one season of Code S? Taeja beat Mvp... And I think if you read the OP or any of the pages in this thread, it is pretty clear that this is not for performance issues alone. And right now MMA probably could not beat Mvp. Idra crushed mvp 2-0. MMA still top 5 terran, which of course doesn't put you that high with the current game balance, but he's still a top top terran. Personally, I see MKP, MVP, Byun, Taeja as the clear top 4 (no specific order). Then you have a large logjam with Jjajki, Gumiho, aLive, Keen, MMA, Ryung who all show they can compete with the very best but just not as consistent. Poor Polt, maybe not the very best terran, but he is at the top polt isn't so hot lately http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/details.php?section=sc2-korean&type=players&id=1856&part=games&league=standard Polt isn't anywhere near the top. I don't think he can ride his Super Tournament win any further. He hasn't had any other big success. And I agree on that top 4, but I disagree with lumping MMA in with the others, he's significantly ahead of everyone else in that list in terms of accomplishments and sustained an extremely high level of skill for more than half a year. Jjakji had one fleeting success, but has yet to prove it wasn't a fluke in my eyes. And Keen? Sure he looks amazing every now and then, but then he just crumbles and goes back to being a gatekeeper. He won Asus ROG too and some other stuff, http://sc2earnings.com/player/172/choi-seong-hun he's up there Not much behind MMA and DRG for example. Minor foreign tournaments don't come anywhere near the GSL and GSTL in terms of skill though. Polt has basically been flying around picking up easy money crushing foreigners and playing against the handful of Koreans that were either invited or had a sponsor to fly them out. You can't even begin to compare that to DRG's or MMA's accomplishments in Korea. They may be winning less money doing what they do, but they play a hell of a lot harder to do it.
Agreed, but don't take Polt's win away from him, it wasn't easy money. For example in Asus ROG, he beat Hero, Taeja and Lucky, before meeting Stephano, a player which most will agree is at least Code A standard, and he beat 3-1, but the games were really good and close.
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On July 18 2012 01:01 Greggle wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2012 00:56 namste wrote:On July 18 2012 00:50 Greggle wrote:On July 18 2012 00:43 opterown wrote:On July 18 2012 00:36 RainSunShowers wrote:On July 18 2012 00:32 vthree wrote:On July 18 2012 00:07 EmilA wrote:On July 18 2012 00:05 The Final Boss wrote:On July 17 2012 23:56 mrRoflpwn wrote:
MMA? The ONLY terran to rival MVP. How could he be demoted to the B team just for missing one season of Code S? Taeja beat Mvp... And I think if you read the OP or any of the pages in this thread, it is pretty clear that this is not for performance issues alone. And right now MMA probably could not beat Mvp. Idra crushed mvp 2-0. MMA still top 5 terran, which of course doesn't put you that high with the current game balance, but he's still a top top terran. Personally, I see MKP, MVP, Byun, Taeja as the clear top 4 (no specific order). Then you have a large logjam with Jjajki, Gumiho, aLive, Keen, MMA, Ryung who all show they can compete with the very best but just not as consistent. Poor Polt, maybe not the very best terran, but he is at the top polt isn't so hot lately http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/details.php?section=sc2-korean&type=players&id=1856&part=games&league=standard Polt isn't anywhere near the top. I don't think he can ride his Super Tournament win any further. He hasn't had any other big success. And I agree on that top 4, but I disagree with lumping MMA in with the others, he's significantly ahead of everyone else in that list in terms of accomplishments and sustained an extremely high level of skill for more than half a year. Jjakji had one fleeting success, but has yet to prove it wasn't a fluke in my eyes. And Keen? Sure he looks amazing every now and then, but then he just crumbles and goes back to being a gatekeeper. He won Asus ROG too and some other stuff, http://sc2earnings.com/player/172/choi-seong-hun he's up there Not much behind MMA and DRG for example. Minor foreign tournaments don't come anywhere near the GSL and GSTL in terms of skill though. Polt has basically been flying around picking up easy money crushing foreigners and playing against the handful of Koreans that were either invited or had a sponsor to fly them out. You can't even begin to compare that to DRG's or MMA's accomplishments in Korea. They may be winning less money doing what they do, but they play a hell of a lot harder to do it.
Polt played against some Code-S caliber players and won. Saying it was easy money and dismissing his recent results is silly.
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On July 18 2012 01:06 lisward wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2012 01:01 Greggle wrote:On July 18 2012 00:56 namste wrote:On July 18 2012 00:50 Greggle wrote:On July 18 2012 00:43 opterown wrote:On July 18 2012 00:36 RainSunShowers wrote:On July 18 2012 00:32 vthree wrote:On July 18 2012 00:07 EmilA wrote:On July 18 2012 00:05 The Final Boss wrote:On July 17 2012 23:56 mrRoflpwn wrote:
MMA? The ONLY terran to rival MVP. How could he be demoted to the B team just for missing one season of Code S? Taeja beat Mvp... And I think if you read the OP or any of the pages in this thread, it is pretty clear that this is not for performance issues alone. And right now MMA probably could not beat Mvp. Idra crushed mvp 2-0. MMA still top 5 terran, which of course doesn't put you that high with the current game balance, but he's still a top top terran. Personally, I see MKP, MVP, Byun, Taeja as the clear top 4 (no specific order). Then you have a large logjam with Jjajki, Gumiho, aLive, Keen, MMA, Ryung who all show they can compete with the very best but just not as consistent. Poor Polt, maybe not the very best terran, but he is at the top polt isn't so hot lately http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/details.php?section=sc2-korean&type=players&id=1856&part=games&league=standard Polt isn't anywhere near the top. I don't think he can ride his Super Tournament win any further. He hasn't had any other big success. And I agree on that top 4, but I disagree with lumping MMA in with the others, he's significantly ahead of everyone else in that list in terms of accomplishments and sustained an extremely high level of skill for more than half a year. Jjakji had one fleeting success, but has yet to prove it wasn't a fluke in my eyes. And Keen? Sure he looks amazing every now and then, but then he just crumbles and goes back to being a gatekeeper. He won Asus ROG too and some other stuff, http://sc2earnings.com/player/172/choi-seong-hun he's up there Not much behind MMA and DRG for example. Minor foreign tournaments don't come anywhere near the GSL and GSTL in terms of skill though. Polt has basically been flying around picking up easy money crushing foreigners and playing against the handful of Koreans that were either invited or had a sponsor to fly them out. You can't even begin to compare that to DRG's or MMA's accomplishments in Korea. They may be winning less money doing what they do, but they play a hell of a lot harder to do it. Agreed, but don't take Polt's win away from him, it wasn't easy money. For example in Asus ROG, he beat Hero, Taeja and Lucky, before meeting Stephano, a player which most will agree is at least Code A standard, and he beat 3-1, but the games were really good and close.
Compared to MVP playing Parting, Naniwa, Hero, July, Leenock, Puzzle and Ryung in Code S Season 2? I mean Hero, Lucky, and Taeja are all good, but they aren't on the level of Parting or Puzzle, and even then there's only 4 GSL players versus 7, and the event is a couple months work versus one weekend.
Not to mention that they all prepared specifically for him, so they were undoubtedly playing on a higher level than at a weekend event.
Sorry, the amount of effort for a GSL win far exceeds any foreign event.
PS I made it a point not to mention Stephano since I don't want to make this thread even worse.
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BTT: reading all the [Team X]MMA makes me realize they all sound totally wrong. It should be SlayerSMMA period
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On July 18 2012 01:16 Greggle wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2012 01:06 lisward wrote:On July 18 2012 01:01 Greggle wrote:On July 18 2012 00:56 namste wrote:On July 18 2012 00:50 Greggle wrote:On July 18 2012 00:43 opterown wrote:On July 18 2012 00:36 RainSunShowers wrote:On July 18 2012 00:32 vthree wrote:On July 18 2012 00:07 EmilA wrote:On July 18 2012 00:05 The Final Boss wrote:[quote] Taeja beat Mvp... And I think if you read the OP or any of the pages in this thread, it is pretty clear that this is not for performance issues alone. And right now MMA probably could not beat Mvp. Idra crushed mvp 2-0. MMA still top 5 terran, which of course doesn't put you that high with the current game balance, but he's still a top top terran. Personally, I see MKP, MVP, Byun, Taeja as the clear top 4 (no specific order). Then you have a large logjam with Jjajki, Gumiho, aLive, Keen, MMA, Ryung who all show they can compete with the very best but just not as consistent. Poor Polt, maybe not the very best terran, but he is at the top polt isn't so hot lately http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/details.php?section=sc2-korean&type=players&id=1856&part=games&league=standard Polt isn't anywhere near the top. I don't think he can ride his Super Tournament win any further. He hasn't had any other big success. And I agree on that top 4, but I disagree with lumping MMA in with the others, he's significantly ahead of everyone else in that list in terms of accomplishments and sustained an extremely high level of skill for more than half a year. Jjakji had one fleeting success, but has yet to prove it wasn't a fluke in my eyes. And Keen? Sure he looks amazing every now and then, but then he just crumbles and goes back to being a gatekeeper. He won Asus ROG too and some other stuff, http://sc2earnings.com/player/172/choi-seong-hun he's up there Not much behind MMA and DRG for example. Minor foreign tournaments don't come anywhere near the GSL and GSTL in terms of skill though. Polt has basically been flying around picking up easy money crushing foreigners and playing against the handful of Koreans that were either invited or had a sponsor to fly them out. You can't even begin to compare that to DRG's or MMA's accomplishments in Korea. They may be winning less money doing what they do, but they play a hell of a lot harder to do it. Agreed, but don't take Polt's win away from him, it wasn't easy money. For example in Asus ROG, he beat Hero, Taeja and Lucky, before meeting Stephano, a player which most will agree is at least Code A standard, and he beat 3-1, but the games were really good and close. Compared to MVP playing Parting, Naniwa, Hero, July, Leenock, Puzzle and Ryung in Code S Season 2? I mean Hero, Lucky, and Taeja are all good, but they aren't on the level of Parting or Puzzle, and even then there's only 4 GSL players versus 7, and the event is a couple months work versus one weekend. PS I made it a point not to mention Stephano since I don't want to make this thread even worse.
Taeja is definitely as good as Puzzle or PartinG, hes an incredibly solid player.
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On July 18 2012 01:06 lisward wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2012 01:01 Greggle wrote:On July 18 2012 00:56 namste wrote:On July 18 2012 00:50 Greggle wrote:On July 18 2012 00:43 opterown wrote:On July 18 2012 00:36 RainSunShowers wrote:On July 18 2012 00:32 vthree wrote:On July 18 2012 00:07 EmilA wrote:On July 18 2012 00:05 The Final Boss wrote:On July 17 2012 23:56 mrRoflpwn wrote:
MMA? The ONLY terran to rival MVP. How could he be demoted to the B team just for missing one season of Code S? Taeja beat Mvp... And I think if you read the OP or any of the pages in this thread, it is pretty clear that this is not for performance issues alone. And right now MMA probably could not beat Mvp. Idra crushed mvp 2-0. MMA still top 5 terran, which of course doesn't put you that high with the current game balance, but he's still a top top terran. Personally, I see MKP, MVP, Byun, Taeja as the clear top 4 (no specific order). Then you have a large logjam with Jjajki, Gumiho, aLive, Keen, MMA, Ryung who all show they can compete with the very best but just not as consistent. Poor Polt, maybe not the very best terran, but he is at the top polt isn't so hot lately http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/details.php?section=sc2-korean&type=players&id=1856&part=games&league=standard Polt isn't anywhere near the top. I don't think he can ride his Super Tournament win any further. He hasn't had any other big success. And I agree on that top 4, but I disagree with lumping MMA in with the others, he's significantly ahead of everyone else in that list in terms of accomplishments and sustained an extremely high level of skill for more than half a year. Jjakji had one fleeting success, but has yet to prove it wasn't a fluke in my eyes. And Keen? Sure he looks amazing every now and then, but then he just crumbles and goes back to being a gatekeeper. He won Asus ROG too and some other stuff, http://sc2earnings.com/player/172/choi-seong-hun he's up there Not much behind MMA and DRG for example. Minor foreign tournaments don't come anywhere near the GSL and GSTL in terms of skill though. Polt has basically been flying around picking up easy money crushing foreigners and playing against the handful of Koreans that were either invited or had a sponsor to fly them out. You can't even begin to compare that to DRG's or MMA's accomplishments in Korea. They may be winning less money doing what they do, but they play a hell of a lot harder to do it. Agreed, but don't take Polt's win away from him, it wasn't easy money. For example in Asus ROG, he beat Hero, Taeja and Lucky, before meeting Stephano, a player which most will agree is at least Code A standard, and he beat 3-1, but the games were really good and close.
Easy money for Polt.
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Meh, I think he'll get over it.
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Wow it's been around for awhile, but we still haven't gotten any updates. Why isn't Jessica spamming her twitter with how ungrateful he is?
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TeamPolt_MMA sound good to me
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On July 18 2012 01:17 Zambrah wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2012 01:16 Greggle wrote:On July 18 2012 01:06 lisward wrote:On July 18 2012 01:01 Greggle wrote:On July 18 2012 00:56 namste wrote:On July 18 2012 00:50 Greggle wrote:On July 18 2012 00:43 opterown wrote:On July 18 2012 00:36 RainSunShowers wrote:On July 18 2012 00:32 vthree wrote:On July 18 2012 00:07 EmilA wrote:
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Idra crushed mvp 2-0.
MMA still top 5 terran, which of course doesn't put you that high with the current game balance, but he's still a top top terran. Personally, I see MKP, MVP, Byun, Taeja as the clear top 4 (no specific order). Then you have a large logjam with Jjajki, Gumiho, aLive, Keen, MMA, Ryung who all show they can compete with the very best but just not as consistent. Poor Polt, maybe not the very best terran, but he is at the top polt isn't so hot lately http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/details.php?section=sc2-korean&type=players&id=1856&part=games&league=standard Polt isn't anywhere near the top. I don't think he can ride his Super Tournament win any further. He hasn't had any other big success. And I agree on that top 4, but I disagree with lumping MMA in with the others, he's significantly ahead of everyone else in that list in terms of accomplishments and sustained an extremely high level of skill for more than half a year. Jjakji had one fleeting success, but has yet to prove it wasn't a fluke in my eyes. And Keen? Sure he looks amazing every now and then, but then he just crumbles and goes back to being a gatekeeper. He won Asus ROG too and some other stuff, http://sc2earnings.com/player/172/choi-seong-hun he's up there Not much behind MMA and DRG for example. Minor foreign tournaments don't come anywhere near the GSL and GSTL in terms of skill though. Polt has basically been flying around picking up easy money crushing foreigners and playing against the handful of Koreans that were either invited or had a sponsor to fly them out. You can't even begin to compare that to DRG's or MMA's accomplishments in Korea. They may be winning less money doing what they do, but they play a hell of a lot harder to do it. Agreed, but don't take Polt's win away from him, it wasn't easy money. For example in Asus ROG, he beat Hero, Taeja and Lucky, before meeting Stephano, a player which most will agree is at least Code A standard, and he beat 3-1, but the games were really good and close. Compared to MVP playing Parting, Naniwa, Hero, July, Leenock, Puzzle and Ryung in Code S Season 2? I mean Hero, Lucky, and Taeja are all good, but they aren't on the level of Parting or Puzzle, and even then there's only 4 GSL players versus 7, and the event is a couple months work versus one weekend. PS I made it a point not to mention Stephano since I don't want to make this thread even worse. Taeja is definitely as good as Puzzle or PartinG, hes an incredibly solid player.
I think its debatable. Puzzle has been in the RO8 like 3 times I think? Plus his amazing GSTL performances this season. Parting was just dominant for a long time and is still top 3 protoss. I mean I love Taeja, he's one of my favorites, but he was Code A/S borderline for a long time and only just hit his stride. Either way though its 2:1.
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On July 18 2012 01:20 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
Wow it's been around for awhile, but we still haven't gotten any updates. Why isn't Jessica spamming her twitter with how ungrateful he is?
They've got to say something today, right? He plays in GSL tonight.
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I hope he wins not because I love him, but because I want to see a post-game interview and at least get some sort of hint at whats going on.
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