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On July 18 2012 00:01 Bagration wrote:Show nested quote +On July 17 2012 23:54 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
I don't quite know who'll want MMA though. He's a player in freefall decline now. His forever woeful TvP has caught up with him, his TvT is mediocre and now that everyone is bad at TvZ he doesn't have that guarenteed win vs every Zerg to fall back on anymore. 2 GSLs. 3 time GSL finalist. 2 time GSTL MVP. If MMA is a bad player, then there isn't a single good player in SC2. This is a GSL champion we are talking about. If you don't see MMA's value as a player, then I'm not surprised that you aren't running any major teams :p
Does that mean that NaDa is currently the best SC:BW player? Of course not; MMA has not been winning anything recently, he's not a bad player, but any team that wants to get him is going to have to pay a pretty hefty pricetag for a player who is not playing his best.
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Have to say all the "It's Jessica/Eve related or at least related to a 'girl'" is pretty sickening. :/ Misogyny ftl.
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Oh god, this thread turns into something VERY funny ... even tough the topic itself isn't all too funny, let's hope they will release some info on why MMA was demoted to the B-Team
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On July 18 2012 00:30 knicyo wrote:
MMA is my hero, sad to see this happen. I hope the best for him, either he'll stay in Slayers or if I'd get what I'd wanted, he'd team up with Genius and viOLet and form a superteam. If he chooses to leave I I'd probably stop cheering for Slayers.
Violet sounds out of place to me on that team. He doesn't follow the vibe that MMA and Genius set.
Personally, it'd be awesome to see MMA go to Mouz - no wait, that sounds dirty. Liquid? That sounds awkward. Empire, no. EG, no. It all sounds too dirty. The only place that MMA belongs is Slayers. Along with Boxer, he is slayers.
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I don't think the truth will ever come out, unless MMA says it himself. But I hope we get some statement from either Jessica or MMA soon?!
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On July 18 2012 00:32 vthree wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2012 00:07 EmilA wrote:On July 18 2012 00:05 The Final Boss wrote:On July 17 2012 23:56 mrRoflpwn wrote:
MMA? The ONLY terran to rival MVP. How could he be demoted to the B team just for missing one season of Code S? Taeja beat Mvp...  And I think if you read the OP or any of the pages in this thread, it is pretty clear that this is not for performance issues alone. And right now MMA probably could not beat Mvp. Idra crushed mvp 2-0. MMA still top 5 terran, which of course doesn't put you that high with the current game balance, but he's still a top top terran. Personally, I see MKP, MVP, Byun, Taeja as the clear top 4 (no specific order). Then you have a large logjam with Jjajki, Gumiho, aLive, Keen, MMA, Ryung who all show they can compete with the very best but just not as consistent.
Poor Polt, maybe not the very best terran, but he is at the top
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On July 18 2012 00:32 The Final Boss wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2012 00:01 Bagration wrote:On July 17 2012 23:54 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
I don't quite know who'll want MMA though. He's a player in freefall decline now. His forever woeful TvP has caught up with him, his TvT is mediocre and now that everyone is bad at TvZ he doesn't have that guarenteed win vs every Zerg to fall back on anymore. 2 GSLs. 3 time GSL finalist. 2 time GSTL MVP. If MMA is a bad player, then there isn't a single good player in SC2. This is a GSL champion we are talking about. If you don't see MMA's value as a player, then I'm not surprised that you aren't running any major teams :p Does that mean that NaDa is currently the best SC:BW player? Of course not; MMA has not been winning anything recently, he's not a bad player, but any team that wants to get him is going to have to pay a pretty hefty pricetag for a player who is not playing his best.
This year he has won an IEM and the Ironsquid, he will come back as soon as blizzards fixes TvZ
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MMA is a great player, might have been something to do with his conduct, but I highly doubt they would cut him off before his contract ends. Even after, I belive SlayerS would try to do everything in their will to attempt to keep MMA on board, either way, I don't think this will stay as is, and I believe MMA will prosper as a progamer where ever he choses to stay, GL to him and I hope this gets settled asap.
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On July 18 2012 00:33 MVega wrote:
Have to say all the "It's Jessica/Eve related or at least related to a 'girl'" is pretty sickening. :/ Misogyny ftl.
Most sports teams / coaches have rules when it comes to girls. How is it misogynistic to speculate that that is one of the areas MMA might find himself in atm?
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On July 18 2012 00:40 ydeer1993 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2012 00:32 The Final Boss wrote:On July 18 2012 00:01 Bagration wrote:On July 17 2012 23:54 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
I don't quite know who'll want MMA though. He's a player in freefall decline now. His forever woeful TvP has caught up with him, his TvT is mediocre and now that everyone is bad at TvZ he doesn't have that guarenteed win vs every Zerg to fall back on anymore. 2 GSLs. 3 time GSL finalist. 2 time GSTL MVP. If MMA is a bad player, then there isn't a single good player in SC2. This is a GSL champion we are talking about. If you don't see MMA's value as a player, then I'm not surprised that you aren't running any major teams :p Does that mean that NaDa is currently the best SC:BW player? Of course not; MMA has not been winning anything recently, he's not a bad player, but any team that wants to get him is going to have to pay a pretty hefty pricetag for a player who is not playing his best. This year he has won an IEM and the Ironsquid, he will come back as soon as blizzards fixes TvZ
nice try
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On July 18 2012 00:36 RainSunShowers wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2012 00:32 vthree wrote:On July 18 2012 00:07 EmilA wrote:On July 18 2012 00:05 The Final Boss wrote:On July 17 2012 23:56 mrRoflpwn wrote:
MMA? The ONLY terran to rival MVP. How could he be demoted to the B team just for missing one season of Code S? Taeja beat Mvp... And I think if you read the OP or any of the pages in this thread, it is pretty clear that this is not for performance issues alone. And right now MMA probably could not beat Mvp. Idra crushed mvp 2-0. MMA still top 5 terran, which of course doesn't put you that high with the current game balance, but he's still a top top terran. Personally, I see MKP, MVP, Byun, Taeja as the clear top 4 (no specific order). Then you have a large logjam with Jjajki, Gumiho, aLive, Keen, MMA, Ryung who all show they can compete with the very best but just not as consistent. Poor Polt, maybe not the very best terran, but he is at the top
polt isn't so hot lately
http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/details.php?section=sc2-korean&type=players&id=1856&part=games&league=standard
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Most sports teams / coaches have rules when it comes to girls
Source?
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On July 18 2012 00:43 opterown wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2012 00:36 RainSunShowers wrote:On July 18 2012 00:32 vthree wrote:On July 18 2012 00:07 EmilA wrote:On July 18 2012 00:05 The Final Boss wrote:On July 17 2012 23:56 mrRoflpwn wrote:
MMA? The ONLY terran to rival MVP. How could he be demoted to the B team just for missing one season of Code S? Taeja beat Mvp... And I think if you read the OP or any of the pages in this thread, it is pretty clear that this is not for performance issues alone. And right now MMA probably could not beat Mvp. Idra crushed mvp 2-0. MMA still top 5 terran, which of course doesn't put you that high with the current game balance, but he's still a top top terran. Personally, I see MKP, MVP, Byun, Taeja as the clear top 4 (no specific order). Then you have a large logjam with Jjajki, Gumiho, aLive, Keen, MMA, Ryung who all show they can compete with the very best but just not as consistent. Poor Polt, maybe not the very best terran, but he is at the top polt isn't so hot lately http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/details.php?section=sc2-korean&type=players&id=1856&part=games&league=standard
Polt isn't anywhere near the top. I don't think he can ride his Super Tournament win any further. He hasn't had any other big success.
And I agree on that top 4, but I disagree with lumping MMA in with the others, he's significantly ahead of everyone else in that list in terms of accomplishments and sustained an extremely high level of skill for more than half a year. Jjakji had one fleeting success, but has yet to prove it wasn't a fluke in my eyes.
And Keen? Sure he looks amazing every now and then, but then he just crumbles and goes back to being a gatekeeper.
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On July 18 2012 00:50 Greggle wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2012 00:43 opterown wrote:On July 18 2012 00:36 RainSunShowers wrote:On July 18 2012 00:32 vthree wrote:On July 18 2012 00:07 EmilA wrote:On July 18 2012 00:05 The Final Boss wrote:On July 17 2012 23:56 mrRoflpwn wrote:
MMA? The ONLY terran to rival MVP. How could he be demoted to the B team just for missing one season of Code S? Taeja beat Mvp... And I think if you read the OP or any of the pages in this thread, it is pretty clear that this is not for performance issues alone. And right now MMA probably could not beat Mvp. Idra crushed mvp 2-0. MMA still top 5 terran, which of course doesn't put you that high with the current game balance, but he's still a top top terran. Personally, I see MKP, MVP, Byun, Taeja as the clear top 4 (no specific order). Then you have a large logjam with Jjajki, Gumiho, aLive, Keen, MMA, Ryung who all show they can compete with the very best but just not as consistent. Poor Polt, maybe not the very best terran, but he is at the top polt isn't so hot lately http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/details.php?section=sc2-korean&type=players&id=1856&part=games&league=standard Polt isn't anywhere near the top. I don't think he can ride his Super Tournament win any further. He hasn't had any other big success. And I agree on that top 4, but I disagree with lumping MMA in with the others, he's significantly ahead of everyone else in that list in terms of accomplishments and sustained an extremely high level of skill for more than half a year. Jjakji had one fleeting success, but has yet to prove it wasn't a fluke in my eyes. And Keen? Sure he looks amazing every now and then, but then he just crumbles and goes back to being a gatekeeper.
He won Asus ROG too and some other stuff, http://sc2earnings.com/player/172/choi-seong-hun he's up there 
Not much behind MMA and DRG for example.
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These people making sexual jokes like MMA closing in on jessica/eve seriously need to manner up, and learn lots of respect.
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On July 18 2012 00:45 Sejanus wrote:Source?
Do you follow sports at all? I generally only watch football but even then it's pretty common to read / hear about coach-player tensions regarding when they're free to go meet girls / their wives, especially when big events like the World Cup come around. Just google fluff pieces about the English football team.
It's also a general myth the that athletes don't perform as well the day after a night of playing hide the pickle.
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QuanticMMA or LG-IM_MMA if anything happens, i don't think MMA would do that well living abroad so he might want to have StarTale house as his new place.
Anyway, anyone thing EG curse is reaching SlayerS? XD
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On July 18 2012 00:59 trackts wrote:
QuanticMMA or LG-IM_MMA if anything happens, i don't thing MMA would do that well living abroad so he might want to have StarTale house as his new place.
Anyway, anyone thing EG curse is reaching SlayerS? XD
Oh god please not Quantic / Startale.
That team's stacked enough.
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On July 18 2012 00:50 Greggle wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2012 00:43 opterown wrote:On July 18 2012 00:36 RainSunShowers wrote:On July 18 2012 00:32 vthree wrote:On July 18 2012 00:07 EmilA wrote:On July 18 2012 00:05 The Final Boss wrote:On July 17 2012 23:56 mrRoflpwn wrote:
MMA? The ONLY terran to rival MVP. How could he be demoted to the B team just for missing one season of Code S? Taeja beat Mvp... And I think if you read the OP or any of the pages in this thread, it is pretty clear that this is not for performance issues alone. And right now MMA probably could not beat Mvp. Idra crushed mvp 2-0. MMA still top 5 terran, which of course doesn't put you that high with the current game balance, but he's still a top top terran. Personally, I see MKP, MVP, Byun, Taeja as the clear top 4 (no specific order). Then you have a large logjam with Jjajki, Gumiho, aLive, Keen, MMA, Ryung who all show they can compete with the very best but just not as consistent. Poor Polt, maybe not the very best terran, but he is at the top polt isn't so hot lately http://www.teamliquid.net/tlpd/details.php?section=sc2-korean&type=players&id=1856&part=games&league=standard Polt isn't anywhere near the top. I don't think he can ride his Super Tournament win any further. He hasn't had any other big success. And I agree on that top 4, but I disagree with lumping MMA in with the others, he's significantly ahead of everyone else in that list in terms of accomplishments and sustained an extremely high level of skill for more than half a year. Jjakji had one fleeting success, but has yet to prove it wasn't a fluke in my eyes. And Keen? Sure he looks amazing every now and then, but then he just crumbles and goes back to being a gatekeeper.
Polt hasn't been doing to much lately, he's focusing on GSL to try to get back into Code S which is why he hasn't done much lately, in the beginning of the year till like may he was hitting all the foreign tournaments not winning all of them of course but still doing well and placing high in them. I do agree until we see his efforts in code s and until he starts hitting Code S top 8's he hasn't shown much lately.
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On July 18 2012 00:32 The Final Boss wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2012 00:01 Bagration wrote:On July 17 2012 23:54 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
I don't quite know who'll want MMA though. He's a player in freefall decline now. His forever woeful TvP has caught up with him, his TvT is mediocre and now that everyone is bad at TvZ he doesn't have that guarenteed win vs every Zerg to fall back on anymore. 2 GSLs. 3 time GSL finalist. 2 time GSTL MVP. If MMA is a bad player, then there isn't a single good player in SC2. This is a GSL champion we are talking about. If you don't see MMA's value as a player, then I'm not surprised that you aren't running any major teams :p Does that mean that NaDa is currently the best SC:BW player? Of course not; MMA has not been winning anything recently, he's not a bad player, but any team that wants to get him is going to have to pay a pretty hefty pricetag for a player who is not playing his best.
"MMA hasn't won anything recently" maybe you should check the premier tournament page and come back and tell me a few months isn't recent? MMA over the past half-year has been one of the most dominate players. He won Blizzard Cup, won IEM, won Iron Squid and has placed high in a few other tournaments as well. He just hasn't been consistent.
It's really unsettling that people completely dismiss a player's results over a few months. There aren't an infinite amount of major tournaments for these players to win so to win one, much less multiple, is a big accomplishment. MMA will rightfully deserve the amount of money he asks for if he chooses to go to a foreign team.
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