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Please stop with the jokes/posts that speculate something sexual or scandalous is at play here. They do not contribute to discussion and are generally of very poor taste.
AKomrade
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States582 Posts
July 17 2012 15:21 GMT
#941
What could MMA have possible done to be demoted out of the team house? Obviously everything is speculation, but unless he set something on fire or walked around punching people in the face, seems sort of like an overreaction.
ALL HAIL THE KING IN THE NORTH! HAIL! HAIL!
GoToVillage
Profile Joined August 2011
Romania20 Posts
July 17 2012 15:22 GMT
#942
He must have done something really bad if he got demoted to the B team.....wtf slayers he's your best player that's not how u treat your best player...

also
On July 18 2012 00:12 EmilA wrote:
MMA banged Eve and jessica is going mental. I'm calling it.

u might be on to something...
iFU.pauline
Profile Joined September 2009
France1564 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-17 15:24:08
July 17 2012 15:23 GMT
#943
On July 18 2012 00:12 EmilA wrote:
MMA banged Eve and jessica is going mental. I'm calling it.


+1, please don't warn me for this post

User was warned for this post
No coward soul is mine, No trembler in the world's storm-troubled sphere, I see Heaven's glories shine, And Faith shines equal arming me from Fear
StarBrift
Profile Joined January 2008
Sweden1761 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-17 15:25:01
July 17 2012 15:23 GMT
#944
On July 17 2012 23:54 Nekovivie wrote:
If the stories about MMA plundering Eve's main with his timing attack turn out to be true, it'll be a funny story indeed.

And probing her natural.. .__.


Maybe she ignored his Xel'Naga tower and crushed his destructible rocks when he tried to make a move on her second natural.
walklightwhat
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia752 Posts
July 17 2012 15:23 GMT
#945
On July 18 2012 00:20 Yomi-no-Kuni wrote:
hey, we wont pay for your food, housing, anything anymore, as is probably in the contract.
but if you want to get out, you need our permission!

i really dont get the korean mentality, concerning player rights


Well, if it's in a contract then chances are good it's also in the contract that the team maintains the right to remove MMA from the team house etc.


Without knowing what caused him to be demoted and him to 'fight' it, everybody's just pissing in the wind.
Zambrah
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States7298 Posts
July 17 2012 15:24 GMT
#946
These StarCraft analogies are getting kind of convoluted. ._.
Incremental change is the Democrat version of Trickle Down economics.
EAGER-beaver
Profile Joined March 2004
Canada2799 Posts
July 17 2012 15:24 GMT
#947
On July 17 2012 18:37 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
Can't have an opinion until we know why he was kicked from the house.


But then we wouldn't have 40 pages of wild speculation!
Simon and Garfunkel rock my face off
S_SienZ
Profile Joined September 2011
1878 Posts
July 17 2012 15:25 GMT
#948
Something Eve or at the very least girl-related wouldn't be surprising at all considering how it's all kept internal and how MMA is contesting the decision as it's less clearly right or wrong.

Remember why did MC leave oGs?
Aeroplaneoverthesea
Profile Joined April 2012
United Kingdom1977 Posts
July 17 2012 15:26 GMT
#949
On July 18 2012 00:25 S_SienZ wrote:
Something Eve or at the very least girl-related wouldn't be surprising at all considering how it's all kept internal and how MMA is contesting the decision as it's less clearly right or wrong.

Remember why did MC leave oGs?


MC left because SK were offering a lot of money.
Yomi-no-Kuni
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany333 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-17 15:27:41
July 17 2012 15:27 GMT
#950
On July 18 2012 00:23 walklightwhat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2012 00:20 Yomi-no-Kuni wrote:
hey, we wont pay for your food, housing, anything anymore, as is probably in the contract.
but if you want to get out, you need our permission!

i really dont get the korean mentality, concerning player rights


Well, if it's in a contract then chances are good it's also in the contract that the team maintains the right to remove MMA from the team house etc.


Without knowing what caused him to be demoted and him to 'fight' it, everybody's just pissing in the wind.


you're probably right that its in the contract, but i still find it hard to cope with contracts that allow the team to basically cancel most of their service to MMA, and MMA being unable to do anything about it in return.
Why don't teams give any rights to their players?

What MMA has done to be promoted is not part of the problem i'm having here.
S_SienZ
Profile Joined September 2011
1878 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-17 15:31:18
July 17 2012 15:27 GMT
#951
On July 18 2012 00:26 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2012 00:25 S_SienZ wrote:
Something Eve or at the very least girl-related wouldn't be surprising at all considering how it's all kept internal and how MMA is contesting the decision as it's less clearly right or wrong.

Remember why did MC leave oGs?


MC left because SK were offering a lot of money.

Pretty sure he also mentioned wanting to stay with his GF.
StarBrift
Profile Joined January 2008
Sweden1761 Posts
July 17 2012 15:27 GMT
#952
On July 18 2012 00:24 EAGER-beaver wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2012 18:37 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
Can't have an opinion until we know why he was kicked from the house.


But then we wouldn't have 40 pages of wild speculation!


No worries. Atleast 10 of those pages were EG bashing.
Coal
Profile Joined July 2011
Sweden1535 Posts
July 17 2012 15:28 GMT
#953
On July 18 2012 00:25 S_SienZ wrote:
Something Eve or at the very least girl-related wouldn't be surprising at all considering how it's all kept internal and how MMA is contesting the decision as it's less clearly right or wrong.

Remember why did MC leave oGs?


Sexual affairs with Supernova?!?!??!?!

It all makes sense now....
In order to succeed, your desire for success should be greater than your fear of failure.
aintz
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada5624 Posts
July 17 2012 15:29 GMT
#954
time to join some rich foreign team when his contract expires. fanatic.mma would be cool
Zambrah
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States7298 Posts
July 17 2012 15:29 GMT
#955
On July 18 2012 00:29 aintz wrote:
time to join some rich foreign team when his contract expires. fanatic.mma would be cool


Don't even go there.
Incremental change is the Democrat version of Trickle Down economics.
knicyo
Profile Joined June 2012
177 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-17 15:30:27
July 17 2012 15:30 GMT
#956
MMA is my hero, sad to see this happen. I hope the best for him, either he'll stay in Slayers or if I'd get what I'd wanted, he'd team up with Genius and viOLet and form a superteam. If he chooses to leave I I'd probably stop cheering for Slayers.
Ryung - Parting - Life - MMA - Genius - Fantasy
Zambrah
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States7298 Posts
July 17 2012 15:30 GMT
#957
On July 18 2012 00:30 knicyo wrote:
MMA is my hero, sad to see this happen. I hope the best for him, either he'll stay in Slayers or if I'd get what I'd wanted, he'd team up with Genius and viOLet and form a superteam. If he chooses to leave I I'd probably stop cheering for Slayers.


Oh god, thats a really cool prospect.
Incremental change is the Democrat version of Trickle Down economics.
Shiori
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
3815 Posts
July 17 2012 15:31 GMT
#958
Sad to hear this. Hope he can work it out and stay with Slayers. If he truly leaves to join a foreign team, I hope it's a team that has a presence in Korea, like FXO or Fnatic. I don't want to see another top Korean joining some mediocre foreign team and never against having a shot at being relevant in the GSL.
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
July 17 2012 15:32 GMT
#959
On July 18 2012 00:07 EmilA wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2012 00:05 The Final Boss wrote:
On July 17 2012 23:56 mrRoflpwn wrote:
MMA? The ONLY terran to rival MVP. How could he be demoted to the B team just for missing one season of Code S?

Taeja beat Mvp...

And I think if you read the OP or any of the pages in this thread, it is pretty clear that this is not for performance issues alone.

And right now MMA probably could not beat Mvp.


Idra crushed mvp 2-0.

MMA still top 5 terran, which of course doesn't put you that high with the current game balance, but he's still a top top terran.


Personally, I see MKP, MVP, Byun, Taeja as the clear top 4 (no specific order). Then you have a large logjam with Jjajki, Gumiho, aLive, Keen, MMA, Ryung who all show they can compete with the very best but just not as consistent.
walklightwhat
Profile Joined November 2010
Australia752 Posts
July 17 2012 15:32 GMT
#960
On July 18 2012 00:27 Yomi-no-Kuni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2012 00:23 walklightwhat wrote:
On July 18 2012 00:20 Yomi-no-Kuni wrote:
hey, we wont pay for your food, housing, anything anymore, as is probably in the contract.
but if you want to get out, you need our permission!

i really dont get the korean mentality, concerning player rights


Well, if it's in a contract then chances are good it's also in the contract that the team maintains the right to remove MMA from the team house etc.


Without knowing what caused him to be demoted and him to 'fight' it, everybody's just pissing in the wind.


you're probably right that its in the contract, but i still find it hard to cope with contracts that allow the team to basically cancel most of their service to MMA, and MMA being unable to do anything about it in return.
Why don't teams give any rights to their players?

What MMA has done to be promoted is not part of the problem i'm having here.


I think the bigger problem is the lack of an organization to defend a players' rights when punished by their team/tournaments. If a sports team suspends a player without pay, that has to be justifiable to a players' association or federation or whatever.

Assuming that MMA's demotion is not justifiable, what recourse does he even have?

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