Ok I´ll try myself aswell: A: Nerchio and Socke, but ToD has a decent chance to upset (if you can call that upset). You shouldt never underestimate Naama tho. B: I can see ClouD, IdrA or Bly advancing here, but not BlinG I think. IdrA can go 6:0 or 0:6... hmm I go with the Zergs, IdrA and Bly. C: Obv. Ret for number 1, but place to will be a heavy fight between Happy and ReaL... I hope for ReaL. D: I wouldt like to see the two Germans advancing obv., but SaSe and Dima are to strong I guess. DF can upset them maybe. E: MC and Hasu. F: Kas and MaNa. G: YongHwa and as my Dark Horse DBS, who has been on fire lately and giving us great games in TSL 4 Quali and EPS. H: Mvp and monchi, so Nightend can cast =)
they forget to invite daisy. korean player who recently moved to germany and is playing for german team ESC and easily qualified for TSL4 a few weeks ago.
On July 03 2012 19:08 furo wrote: Group A: Nerchio, Socke, ToD, Naama Nerchio, Socke are the obv choices for sure.
Group B: ClouD, IdrA, Bly, Bling i think Cloud wont make it vs 2 zergs, which leaves 1 zerg getting trough, Bling is not in top form right now so i go with the two zergs to make it out of groups. Bly, IdrA. Since neither really took something down lately its prolly the easiest group, either of them would have no chance in the other ones.
Group C: Ret, Happy, ReaL, IncontroL Ret, Real will make it. Incontrol is not really in a good shape (if he ever was). Happy might upset us if he can beat both protoss.
Group D: SaSe, GoOdy, Dimaga, DarK.FoRcE SaSe, Dimaga will make it. maybe DF can upset Goody will have no chance vs 2 good zergs who can exploid him and SaSe is a monster vs terrans
Group E: MC, HasuObs, Tarson, TLO MC, Hasu will go trough. maybe TLO can upset if his PvZ is great. He recently lost to Hasu 1:2 in uber close matches at the german WCS. since he will come from korea and maybe be a bit tired i dont think he can make it tho. poor Tarson will not have any chances but he obv has to be at every HSC
Group F: MaNa, Sleep, Kas, Destiny will be close between MaNa, Kas and Sleep. Destiny will have alot of time to play poker. i go with Sleep and Kas to make it.
Group G: Sheth, YongHwa, Slivko, DBS i have not seen alot of sheth lately, Slivko and DBS can upset everyone. DBS will prepare like crazy for this event so i think he will have decent chances. i'll go with YongHwa and DBS.
Group F: MVP, Golden, NightenD, Monchi MVP and Golden are my picks. maybe Monchi or Nightend can upset.
I essentially used TLPD's vX ELOs to compute the probability for each player to advance. However, I tweaked the formula because you can't assume that a TvZ ELO 2200 player will beat a ZvT ELO 2150 player all the time, so I looked at what effect ELO difference makes, and drawing from very little data (that's where my formula is weakest; could easily improve it but that's where my laziness set in) I estimated 1 SD to affect each player's Pwin by 10% (so players within 114 ELO pts are 50%, 114-227 difference will make it 60/40 and so on). Then simply compute everything for all groups and voilá.
Edit: Of course the data is biased now, but this predicts DH stage 3 group winners with 70% accuracy. Taking the raw ELO for the same formula predicts DHs3 winners with 81% accuracy, but for HSC the two only differ in their predictions of group E and H (with a 3-way-tie between Mana, Kas and Sleep in group F). Overall ELO sees MC and TLO go through for group E and Mvp and monchi win group H. Since I disagree with these, I chose vX ELO instead.
Alright cool, thanks for replying. Love me some stats & prob :d
Was thinking of doing something similar myself, but I'm lazy and got exams atm ;(
groups b c and f should be the easiest just because idra incontrol and destiny are in there
the other groups seem quite stacked
why does everyone think idra is going to have a chance of making it out of the groups? if he plays anything like he did in the last ~10 months he will get smashed I think
nerchio MVP and MC are definitely my favourites to win it all (since stephano isn't there )