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07:06 KST - method linked here has been disproved here 10:54 KST - Find a full timeline of pro comments (including Spades) in the topic here. 08:47 KST - Summary: Accusations of maphacking have the potential to destroy a player's career if left unaddressed. Because of the potential consequences, we should be careful about accepting unproven accusations. The principle of 'innocent until proven guilty' should be applied here. That does not mean that there has been a conclusion about this case, however, which is why this thread remains tentatively open. Please discuss with caution and use evidence to back up your claims. (also a summary post by an unnamed pro on reddit here) | ||
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MateShade
Australia736 Posts
On June 07 2012 20:05 Integra wrote: Holy shit, LOL look at his stats: Average Posts Per Day 75.55 Average Posts Per Week 528.85 Goddamn! Crazy how someone who only just made their first TL account is so active | ||
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zefreak
United States2731 Posts
On June 07 2012 19:40 toiletCAT wrote: It's also completely irrelevant to the thread, because we've debunked all evidence that suggests he's hacking. lol, believe what you want. You aren't a defender of justice and due process, just a troll/fan/Spades. Lot's of supposed evidence was indeed debunked, mostly the attempted technical proofs. That's to be expected, as there isn't really a known way to prove hacking if the user isn't stupid enough to use blink hacks or similar things. There are still LOADS of suspicious behaviors. | ||
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dani`
Netherlands2402 Posts
On June 07 2012 19:40 toiletCAT wrote: It's also completely irrelevant to the thread, because we've debunked all evidence that suggests he's hacking. That's not true. There's a huge pile of evidence suggesting he's hacking, it's just not 100% conclusive. But stuff like looking at a certain spot in the fog of war where your medivacs are heading, then commanding the medivacs to drop in that area exactly next to a Nexus which happens to be there (not normal 3rd base location) is extremely fishy (commands were issued before he got vision of it, ofc), and stuff like that happens all the time. It adds up you know. | ||
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Integra
Sweden5626 Posts
On June 07 2012 20:07 MateShade wrote: Crazy how someone who only just made their first TL account is so active toiletCAT is Spades or someone that knows him and tries to "clear his name" by posting "there is no evidence blarrghhh". There is no other reason why he would do all this, LOL. | ||
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philip697
United Kingdom123 Posts
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zefreak
United States2731 Posts
On June 07 2012 20:11 philip697 wrote: For me there were just far too many 'dodgy' decisions, which nobody would ever make without some extra info. I.e moving all those tanks from his natural, to the back of his main when Lucifrons army was coming up the right side (Spades should have had no idea); Moving his entire army away from an UNDER THREAT 3rd base, to defend a drop, without knowing it was coming (ok, barracks MAY have saw something, but you'd scan first!); Using a scan to see all 3 CC's and rax count when his SCV was only half way across the map.... the list is so long. One of two things like this, you could excuse as bad play/luck, but not them all. There's no smoke without fire, and there's definitely something dodgy going off here. But don't you get it, if theres ANY possible explanation, no matter the probabilities, toiletcat won't be satisfied. I hope he is on my jury when I am caught next to a burglarized jewelry store with a fist-full of diamonds (and I have a prior criminal record). It's all circumstantial! | ||
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EtherealDeath
United States8366 Posts
On June 07 2012 20:04 SolidMustard wrote: lol man, have we? Are you Spades or smth? Not gonna lie, if toiletCat is Spades, that'd be prettttty fucking sad. | ||
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MateShade
Australia736 Posts
IP but either way it's a smurf account from someone | ||
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toiletCAT
Qatar284 Posts
On June 07 2012 20:07 zefreak wrote: lol, believe what you want. You aren't a defender of justice and due process, just a troll/fan/Spades. Lot's of supposed evidence was indeed debunked, mostly the attempted technical proofs. That's to be expected, as there isn't really a known way to prove hacking if the user isn't stupid enough to use blink hacks or similar things. There are still LOADS of suspicious behaviors. Yeah, I'm a troll because I don't jump onto the "well, there's no evidence but we think he's hacking"-bandwagon. | ||
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Integra
Sweden5626 Posts
On June 07 2012 20:16 zefreak wrote: But don't you get it, if theres ANY possible explanation, no matter the probabilities, toiletcat won't be satisfied. I hope he is on my jury when I am caught next to a burglarized jewelry store with a fist-full of diamonds (and I have a prior criminal record). It's all circumstantial! The guy has stamina you have to give him that. I think its about time someone did another "The mystery within the mystery" thread, but this time about toiletCAT. | ||
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toiletCAT
Qatar284 Posts
On June 07 2012 20:17 MateShade wrote: Mods can find out if this guy was dumb enough to use the same IP but either way it's a smurf account from someone Lol, I dare you. If you're dumb enough to think I'm Spades after all the work I've put into this to make sure people aren't jumping to conclusions, rather than saying "oh, well, people in the community are definitely hacking" without any proof, then go ahead. If I'm the troll here, then so are you. Perhaps you didn't read the last 100 pages, but I've said multiple times that I could not care less if Spades was hacking or not, I'm not in this becauses of that, I'm in this because I'm surprised how many people ear willing to blindly crucify others in this community. | ||
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MateShade
Australia736 Posts
On June 07 2012 20:18 toiletCAT wrote: Yeah, I'm a troll because I don't jump onto the "well, there's no evidence but we think he's hacking"-bandwagon. No you're a smurf account, pathetic. Also the 'we have no conclusive evidence but we think he's hacking is EXACTLY what this is about. It's pretty obvious spades is hacking, people are trying to find out ways to prove it | ||
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toiletCAT
Qatar284 Posts
On June 07 2012 20:21 MateShade wrote: No you're a smurf account, pathetic. Also the 'we have no conclusive evidence but we think he's hacking is EXACTLY what this is about. It's pretty obvious spades is hacking, people are trying to find out ways to prove it And how is that relevant? It's not obvious that Spades is hacking, we've proved you wrong. When will you give up? Read the last 100 pages, we've literally debunked every single evidence you've presented. Every single piece of evidence. Your remaining arguments is "omg, toiletcat iz teh trollz!! he iz probably spades?!!!" | ||
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MateShade
Australia736 Posts
On June 07 2012 20:20 toiletCAT wrote: Lol, I dare you. If you're dumb enough to think I'm Spades after all the work I've put into this to make sure people aren't jumping to conclusions, rather than saying "oh, well, people in the community are definitely hacking" without any proof, then go ahead. If I'm the troll here, then so are you. Perhaps you didn't read the last 100 pages, but I've said multiple times that I could not care less if Spades was hacking or not, I'm not in this becauses of that, I'm in this because I'm surprised how many people ear willing to blindly crucify others in this community. A community you joined 2 days ago? ROFL | ||
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MateShade
Australia736 Posts
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MateShade
Australia736 Posts
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Integra
Sweden5626 Posts
On June 07 2012 20:18 toiletCAT wrote: Yeah, I'm a troll because I don't jump onto the "well, there's no evidence but we think he's hacking"-bandwagon. we never said that you were a troll cause of that you don't agree, the reason is cause you seem to post in all Spades related threads 24 hours a day LOL. How the hell do you have time to make 76 posts a day? it's freaking insane, don't you get bored? I mean there are only so many variations you can type " not enough evidence". Do you get payed by the hour? If yes then I bet people here will pay you even more if you stopped! lol. Let's see if you can get your daily post count up to a 100! | ||
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toiletCAT
Qatar284 Posts
On June 07 2012 20:24 Integra wrote: we never said that you were a troll cause of that you don't agree, the reason is cause you seem to post in all Spades related threads 24 hours a day LOL. How the hell do you have time to make 76 posts a day? it's freaking insane, don't you get bored? I mean there are only so many variations you can type " not enough evidence". Do you get payed by the hour? If yes then I bet people here will pay you even more if you stopped! lol. Let's see if you can get your daily post count up to a 100! I can post where ever I want, man. And trust me, I'm really, really tired of this, I mean really. The only people left in this are people like you who likes to accuse others of being trolls or Spades himself, which is ridiculous. I honestly can't take your "funny comments" seriously, because your only purpose is to spread the hate from one person onto another. | ||
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ZenithM
France15952 Posts
I gotta admit that for now nobody has found anything 100% hackish. Kinda weird considering all that's been investigated. | ||
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MateShade
Australia736 Posts
On June 07 2012 20:29 toiletCAT wrote: I can post where ever I want, man. And trust me, I'm really, really tired of this, I mean really. The only people left in this are people like you who likes to accuse others of being trolls or Spades himself, which is ridiculous. I honestly can't take your "funny comments" seriously, because your only purpose is to spread the hate from one person onto another. So yeah, who are you really? You're only allowed one account on tl | ||
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