[?] Spades hacking? - Page 291

On June 07 2012 18:47 arb wrote:
The mods already know who the OP Is speculating seems kinda dumb imo. If they want it revealed they'll def tell us.

On June 07 2012 17:29 dvorakftw wrote:
Okay so what I decided to do is grab all the Spades replays from his MLG games in 2010 and 11 and look for things that people have complained about. Unfortunately I didn't find the minimap SCV scouting - because if (or when) I do I will declare victory and dance a jig - but again MLG is closer to ladder in that you don't get to study and prep builds for a particular opponent in advance. However I did find in games against coLMVPKeen and FXOmOoNan respectively:

Half inch resiege:
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Turns out to be not suspicious because the enemy is no longer there.

Leading with tanks instead of marines:
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Not really a good idea and I don't recall it mentioned much here but it's something I remember from CatZ/Illusion and it's easy to disprove. Note The red above the minimap box are enemy units seen by a sensor tower so he knows he is moving the tanks toward danger.

Minimap scanning:
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I know it's not easy but trust me you can zoom in and see the minimap's unfog of war circle before he scrolls up.

Changing army direction due to spotting a minimap dot:
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Again you can't really see it, but the story is Spades takes one Xel and starts moving to the second when a red dot appears in the yellow circled area. Within a second he changes direction to defend the drop which he ends up holding off without any of that army. I know it doesn't exactly match the scan at 32:20 and move at 32:50 on TDA but does anyone really still want to say he should ignore 4 previous drops to that spot and the scan info to continue defending the mined out 3rd?

Marching his army into death while looking somewhere else for macro:
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One of the more recent complaints. Again, bad idea but it's something he apparently does and this time he pays for it.

Attacking an unscouted 3rd:
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Again, suspicious play is foiled by the opponent not doing his part. If only his opponent had started the 3rd we could call shenanigans.

Anyway, I have new-found appreciation for lawyers getting $100/hr. and up. This stuff is tedious. So much easier to make 20 claims, see half of them dismissed and just continue saying "What about the rest?"

On June 07 2012 19:12 Boonbag wrote:
It's funny how 14 years after Starcraft release we still run into the same problems.

Really.... 14 years and still the same shit...

On June 07 2012 19:18 Gamegene wrote:


it's funny how people never change

On June 07 2012 19:03 Defacer wrote:
Wouldn't it be funny if Spades made it to the MLG finals or something? It technically wouldn't prove that he did or didn't hack, but suddenly everyone would jump off the bandwagon.

On June 07 2012 19:03 Defacer wrote:
Wouldn't it be funny if Spades made it to the MLG finals or something? It technically wouldn't prove that he did or didn't hack, but suddenly everyone would jump off the bandwagon.

On June 07 2012 19:22 Integra wrote:

By judging how terrible he played on his stream yesterday he won't make it far, if he even shows up for MLG that is, not to mention one of his real ID friends in SC2 were HRGZack LOL.+ Show Spoiler +

On June 07 2012 19:20 flodeskum wrote:

If the replays discussed in this thread would suddenly disappear at the same time and his performance could be attributed to some sort of super-human insight with no scouting... then yes, some people might believe he wasn't hacking.

Another extremely implausible scenario would be that Spades shows up at MLG with a sponsorship from a hacking site, uses hacks in all his games and asks Startale_Hack to marry him on stage. Even after that I'm pretty sure there would still be people on here claiming we need more evidence.

On June 07 2012 19:31 toiletCAT wrote:


See you in the MLG finals, then.

On June 07 2012 17:43 Canucklehead wrote:
I bet the op is lucifron. The other thread talking about the op's identity said tl mods know who it is, but won't reveal him. If he was just a no name random spanish poster, they would have no reason to hide his identity, cause no one would give a damn. That leaves it most likely to be lucifron himself and tl doesn't want to cause trouble for him. There's no point in protecting someone no one has never heard of, so the op has to be a known person.

On June 07 2012 19:37 zefreak wrote:


Hah, he has literally 0 chance of making it out of open bracket, hacker or not.

Actually, he has 0 chance of making it out even if he was allowed to hack.

On June 07 2012 19:37 Akio00 wrote:



It is incredibly unlikely it was Luci. With all of the work that was put in, he would have gotten way more positive publicity stating it himself. He'd be cheered as a honest player cleaning up the game. I feel Luci has actually hurt his image by not saying anything, in support or against Spades. It almost makes him look like a coward hiding behind somebody else.

On June 07 2012 19:40 toiletCAT wrote:


It's also completely irrelevant to the thread, because we've debunked all evidence that suggests he's hacking.

On June 07 2012 20:00 Integra wrote:
And toiletCAT should be nominated for the troll of the year, 99.9% of his posts has been in threads related to Spades, lol.

On June 07 2012 19:40 toiletCAT wrote:


It's also completely irrelevant to the thread, because we've debunked all evidence that suggests he's hacking.

On June 07 2012 20:03 MateShade wrote:

His account was made on the 6th and has made 138 posts since then lol. Id love for a mod
To confirm this if they can