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You have to provide some kind of evidence/proof (screenshots/replays etc.) if you are going to accuse somebody. Additionally, a supporting comment of what people should be looking for and when will be necessary if you are posting replays/evidence. | ||
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Powerstrike
50 Posts
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mcleod
Canada350 Posts
hes high masters, GM lvl mmr idk if hes on a team but i have rep where he is clearly hacking looking through fog of war and then doing ling run bys when i he sees my army move out pretty obvious idk if anyone is still managing this, but i can give rep upon request | ||
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ZweiGaming
Canada348 Posts
On July 10 2012 13:26 mcleod wrote: sigh add another one to the list : ScNzoohairZ hes high masters, GM lvl mmr idk if hes on a team but i have rep where he is clearly hacking looking through fog of war and then doing ling run bys when i he sees my army move out pretty obvious idk if anyone is still managing this, but i can give rep upon request No accusing without evidence please, send me replays if you do have it. | ||
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zoohairZ
Canada254 Posts
On July 10 2012 13:55 ZweiGaming wrote: No accusing without evidence please, send me replays if you do have it. Lol. I can send you the replay he's talking about, if you want. This guy just doesn't like me for whatever reason. | ||
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-TesteR-
Canada1165 Posts
On July 10 2012 13:26 mcleod wrote: sigh add another one to the list : ScNzoohairZ hes high masters, GM lvl mmr idk if hes on a team but i have rep where he is clearly hacking looking through fog of war and then doing ling run bys when i he sees my army move out pretty obvious idk if anyone is still managing this, but i can give rep upon request Hmm I don't think zoohair hacks, you should upload rep to drop.sc. | ||
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zoohairZ
Canada254 Posts
edit: http://drop.sc/217871 | ||
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ZweiGaming
Canada348 Posts
On July 10 2012 14:00 zoohairZ wrote: Lol. I can send you the replay he's talking about, if you want. This guy just doesn't like me for whatever reason. Doubt his accusation is based on anything real like most people who accuse without posting replays. Your name never came up in the past plus i've played you on the ladder and found nothing out of the ordinary. There's a lot of false accusations, needless to say they don't go through. Also, judgement cannot be render with a single replay other than if there's things such as blink hack or other automated actions. | ||
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zoohairZ
Canada254 Posts
On July 10 2012 14:10 ZweiGaming wrote: Doubt his accusation is based on anything real like most people who accused without posting replays. Your name never came up in the past plus i've played you on the ladder and found nothing out of the ordinary. There's a lot of false accusations, needless to say they don't go through. <3 I occasionally stream and play at a lot of LANs + I will be at wcs/csl/nasl grand finals why on earth would I waste time map hacking. im trying to get better, not worse. | ||
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mcleod
Canada350 Posts
-weird scouting patterns, 99% of zergs scout horizontal this map, u just happen to scout down -u dont even check for cc or anything and ur second overlord doesnt even go to check horizontal base, which doesnt make any sense, u do eventually check mineral line -after your horrible all in, you see a banshee yet u dont try to scout for cloak or even worry that it might have cloak, no evo, no spores -on my first attack, u have lings in the center of the map, u actually send them back to ur base before u see my first push coming and get a flank. this is the first random reaction with out seeing anything -constant looking into my natural when there is nothing to see -u do a ling run by at literally the most perfect timing ive ever seen, right when i move out u send them in, no scouting nothing just perfect timing, and also look at his reaction at his natural he instantly starts 4 spines and waits for me. once again he hasnt seen anything -ill even note, on the second run by, he sends a ling and it gets killed by banshees and normally u would think ok hes moving out for a another push and instantly send ur lings in, but he doesnt. he waits somehow knowing its just 2 banshees moving out and not the rest of my army.(11:00 minute mark) i stopped watching after this so yeah i guess can be random coicidence, but the ling reactions are pretty suspicious hes really hacking or really lucky and terrible | ||
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zoohairZ
Canada254 Posts
On July 10 2012 14:45 mcleod wrote: okay lets break this down -weird scouting patterns, 99% of zergs scout horizontal this map, u just happen to scout down -u dont even check for cc or anything and ur second overlord doesnt even go to check horizontal base, which doesnt make any sense, u do eventually check mineral line -after your horrible all in, you see a banshee yet u dont try to scout for cloak or even worry that it might have cloak, no evo, no spores -on my first attack, u have lings in the center of the map, u actually send them back to ur base before u see my first push coming and get a flank. this is the first random reaction with out seeing anything -constant looking into my natural when there is nothing to see -u do a ling run by at literally the most perfect timing ive ever seen, right when i move out u send them in, no scouting nothing just perfect timing, and also look at his reaction at his natural he instantly starts 4 spines and waits for me. once again he hasnt seen anything -ill even note, on the second run by, he sends a ling and it gets killed by banshees and normally u would think ok hes moving out for a another push and instantly send ur lings in, but he doesnt. he waits somehow knowing its just 2 banshees moving out and not the rest of my army.(11:00 minute mark) i stopped watching after this so yeah i guess can be random coicidence, but the ling reactions are pretty suspicious hes really hacking or really lucky and terrible You bm me all the time, Baz, along with everyone else you play. Nothing new. Like I said I was half eating dinner and half playing throughout the game, yea it was sloppy as fuck I could have easily died to a cloak banshee. I'm not the best player. Your last point doesnt really make sense to me though, All I saw was banshees why would I assume you're moving out? | ||
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Whatson
United States5357 Posts
On July 10 2012 14:09 zoohairZ wrote: I'll upload it. I just reviewed the replay, and I GUESS (?) there's 2 instances where it could seem like I hack. First would be lack of scouting. I don't usually drone scout ZvT, and I was actually half-playing this game and half eating dinner, thats why i chose to all in (yaya make your cheesy all in jokes :D). It wouldnt really matter where he spawned i could just sent out a ling and check em all but i checked the nat area with the overlord and saw mule coming down. So I knew he was there. Second is the counter attack thing. I look at the game and yah that counter attack looks hella fishy but it wasnt an actual counter-attack (or atleast wasn't meant to be). I was just checking to see his unit comp (doing it with all my lings instead of 1 was kinda stupid, yah, but that was the 2nd time I did it). When I saw no units there, I figured he moved out and just attacked his mineral line. In which case i made a bunch of spine crawlers. He pulled his entire army back to deal with it. If I knew he was doing that, i would have just cancelled the spine crawlers since If he pulled back and then attacked me again after I would have 1/1 done and enough units to deal with his push. Ill upload the replay in a sec. edit: http://drop.sc/217871 lol the counterattack thing can probably be seen by some super paranoid guy as fishy, but it's more luck than anything else | ||
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FSKi
United States901 Posts
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mcleod
Canada350 Posts
On July 10 2012 14:49 zoohairZ wrote: You bm me all the time, Baz, along with everyone else you play. Nothing new. Like I said I was half eating dinner and half playing throughout the game, yea it was sloppy as fuck I could have easily died to a cloak banshee. I'm not the best player. Your last point doesnt really make sense to me though, All I saw was banshees why would I assume you're moving out? wtf is this eating dinner bullshit ur playing at 200 apm i just took another look at the replay lets forget the perfect run by, lucky, fine look at my first push he doesnt scout it put it on his view he selects his lings and clicks them to my natural right when the push is coming, because he thought oo i can counterattack now, BUT THEN sends them back to clean up my push. he puts the command for the lings to come home before he has seen my push -also watch his camera, it goes up to his third right where my army is, but he has no vision of his third oh and edit u bm me all time too, whats ur fucking point | ||
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LuckyFool
United States9015 Posts
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shinyA
United States473 Posts
This kid plays suspicious every game and flames the shit out of you if you beat him. It's cute you're trying to act nice on the forums though~ | ||
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zoohairZ
Canada254 Posts
On July 10 2012 15:03 shinyA wrote: Rotfl, zoohairz calling someone else bm, that's awesome. This kid plays suspicious every game and flames the shit out of you if you beat him. It's cute you're trying to act nice on the forums though~ nah, i am pretty bm in-game, a lot of ppl are, but thats just a result of frustration when you're trying to practice and get better and still lose etcetc. | ||
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mcleod
Canada350 Posts
On July 10 2012 15:01 LuckyFool wrote: baz get those lies out of here, seriously man. have you looked at the replay? i didnt think he hacked either, but aftert his wtf am i suppose to think? | ||
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LuckyFool
United States9015 Posts
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Fenneth
Australia354 Posts
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zoohairZ
Canada254 Posts
On July 10 2012 15:12 LuckyFool wrote: Well at first I didn't believe but that rep is pretty fkin sketch. Zoohairz is one of the bigger coinflippy z's on NA and his play might be dumb enough to look like hax sometimes but I dunno....plus he's being super defensive spades style already in this thread...And wtf is up with eating dinner while playing. Who has 200apm eating dinner? Must have been some sort of finger foods dinner definitely wasn't lobster or some shit. Anyway baz is just a bmbag as it is so whatever, fuck all I'm going to bed. I was eating until the all-in failed then I put it aside. I don't really care, I'm just sensitive, i guess. I DONT CARE WHATTAYA SAYYYY ILL JUST KEEP PLAYIN MAH GAIMEZ. Im done  EDIT: But may I take this moment to advertise my stream? www.twitch.tv/zoohairz I will be streaming in teh coming dayz ! | ||
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