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You have to provide some kind of evidence/proof (screenshots/replays etc.) if you are going to accuse somebody.

Additionally, a supporting comment of what people should be looking for and when will be necessary if you are posting replays/evidence.
Adnapsc2
Profile Joined October 2018
47 Posts
December 08 2018 01:00 GMT
#10401
Hacker name:
Vagabond
battlenet:://starcraft/profile/1/3113061565373349888

Server: NA
League: GM 1v1

Description:
Opponent watch my units into fog.

Replay:
https://drop.sc/replay/9178040
tskarzyn
Profile Joined July 2010
United States516 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-12-08 02:07:24
December 08 2018 02:06 GMT
#10402
On July 03 2018 17:20 avilo wrote:
Another instance tonight of WinterSC maphacking:

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/280250450?t=3h54m20s

Check his VOD. Because of the previous encounter(s) i've had with this guy on ladder where he scouts and plays better than Innovation and can find every single overlord in fog of war by clicking on them, i decided to proxy him and see how he reacts.

Before leaving this game, he pulls off some great acting, up until he decides to snap his camera in fog of war directly to where the proxy is lol.

It's pretty normal someone is going to check a game they leave / quit+rewind THEN move their camera to see where the proxy is right? This kid literally just snaps his camera straight to the proxy before quit+rewinding the game. Oh, happens to be right directly on the proxy which could have been anywhere lol.

Most likely out of habit because he can see both buildings in fog via his MH. The other evidence i posted on TL was worse than this, with Winter quite literally clicking on overlords in fog of war, multiple times within the same game with a viking.

How much more evidence needs to be posted? There was evidence i had from the LOTV beta of Winter doing the exact same thing, clicking on/avoiding stasis traps in fog of war, as well as clicking on observers. Now within the last week, he's doing the same thing clicking on overlords directly in fog of war, and snapping his camera straight to a proxy (inadvertently) before leaving a game.

Hacks exist on this game. And yes, some known people are using them. They think they are smart enough to not get caught - they will get caught. IF this were SC1 / Brood War era and we had tools seeing kids click on buildings/units and waypointing their units DIRECTLY onto units in fog of war, they'd be insta-banned from TL / put on blast in the community.

Why is this not the same in 2018? How much evidence needs to be presented here on TL or elsewhere to actually punish cheaters in the community? I'm asking honestly because apparently nowadays the only thing accepted will be if someone is behind their PC at the person's home with a camera.

It's obvious there is a working MH out there right now that's being passed around/multiplying as of late.



Hacking to raise his league and in turn his profile in the SC2 community would be inline with Winter's previous behavior, namely the blatant use of stream bots and subsequent denials.
Loser777
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
1931 Posts
December 10 2018 05:13 GMT
#10403
Any idea what's going on in this replay? Opponent is in M2 but _averaged_ over 400 EPM. Doesn't seem obvious from looking at the replay what the source of the actions is.

>400 EPM with ~500 APM is also insane efficiency.

https://sc2replaystats.com/replay/9195913
6581
Adnapsc2
Profile Joined October 2018
47 Posts
December 10 2018 05:48 GMT
#10404
On December 10 2018 14:13 Loser777 wrote:
Any idea what's going on in this replay? Opponent is in M2 but _averaged_ over 400 EPM. Doesn't seem obvious from looking at the replay what the source of the actions is.

>400 EPM with ~500 APM is also insane efficiency.

https://sc2replaystats.com/replay/9195913



Apm means nothing. Rapid fire or macro keys can make rocket ur apm to 1000+
phodacbiet
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1740 Posts
December 10 2018 06:09 GMT
#10405
On December 10 2018 14:13 Loser777 wrote:
Any idea what's going on in this replay? Opponent is in M2 but _averaged_ over 400 EPM. Doesn't seem obvious from looking at the replay what the source of the actions is.

>400 EPM with ~500 APM is also insane efficiency.

https://sc2replaystats.com/replay/9195913


I think he's using some sort of macro keys that's inflating his apm/epm, but aside from that there's nothing else strange about the replay. During his 3k apm moments, he's looking at the battle and hold down the zergling/baneling key, but he's not injecting or spreading creep simultaneously so it makes me think that it's just him building units.
K5
Profile Joined November 2014
Slovenia22 Posts
February 18 2019 23:30 GMT
#10406
Hacker name: lllllllllll
Profile: battlenet:://starcraft/profile/2/14637743389425008640
Server: EU
League: Masters 2
Replay: https://drop.sc/replay/9838340

I'm really cautious to not publically accuse my opponents of maphacking, but damn, this guy didn't even try to hide it. For people who don't want to watch the full replay, here's a list of obvious timings:
8:15 - he turns his stalkers around in the middle of the map to intercept my scouting marine on the top side of the map
9:20 - he sees my moveout through the fog of war and moves to intercept it
10:15 - he intercepts my drop without any vision
11:35 - he looks at my army composition through the fog of war
14:45 - he intercepts the marine poke at his 5th
16:15 - his army movement follows my push around the map
I did not include the slightly suspicious moves, like stalker positioning at the start, running from cyclone, intercepting marine tank push and following the banshee, because those could have been just luck (though I know now that they weren't).
Adnapsc2
Profile Joined October 2018
47 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-03-10 20:03:35
March 10 2019 19:48 GMT
#10407
Hacker name:
Gnuffone

Server: EU
League: Top Master 2v2

Description:
Opponent blind counter builds and drops (one replay with ridiculous dt counter and second one with oracle/ drops catch without information)

Replay:
https://drop.sc/replay/10032233
https://drop.sc/replay/10032223

He asked me for arranged team games and i noticed he was hacking after 20 games. I still played 50 games to confirm it. Some opponents even msged me about how fishy he was playing.

I didnt check all the replays but i think its pointless with these 2.
Peace \\//

And btw, the only team who kinda counter build this guy was slaaap protech and urededkid. It says a lot about them hacking too. Too bad there is no more moderation in sc2.
P3rd0x
Profile Joined March 2019
1 Post
Last Edited: 2019-03-11 10:42:08
March 11 2019 10:37 GMT
#10408
Gnuffone 100% proven maphacker.







Gnuffone sc2 on youtube!


https://drop.sc/replay/10038839
https://drop.sc/replay/9798673
Adnapsc2
Profile Joined October 2018
47 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-03-14 00:03:17
March 13 2019 23:27 GMT
#10409
Hacker name:
lllllllllllll
battlenet:://starcraft/profile/2/14637743389425008640

Server: EU
League: Top Master 1V1

Description:
Opponent uses fog of war hack and blink hack and caught my reaper and a drop for free.

Replay:https://drop.sc/replay/10057425

I was try harding EU to rank up my mmr and i ran into this BS. Holy shit, its depressing.


EDIT: i watched his match history and somebody sent me another replay of this clown
https://drop.sc/replay/10057570
Adnapsc2
Profile Joined October 2018
47 Posts
March 19 2019 16:36 GMT
#10410
Hacker name:
lllllllllllll
battlenet:://starcraft/profile/2/7203465895551696896

Server: EU
League: Top Master 2v2

Description:
Opponent rally his zealot into an unscouted proxy

Replay: https://drop.sc/replay/10111002
His match history seems to be full of protech snipe.
It is prolly prototype or loadblaster. I didnt check the hotkeys to be sure.
katriyatsia
Profile Joined March 2019
2 Posts
March 19 2019 17:37 GMT
#10411
--- Nuked ---
Adnapsc2
Profile Joined October 2018
47 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-03-20 15:36:46
March 20 2019 15:36 GMT
#10412
Same barcode:
https://drop.sc/replay/10118130
I was streaming with delay and he clicked on my proxy in the fog, again.
His name is loadblaster. This is his twitch:
https://www.twitch.tv/loadblaster123
neverlose9999
Profile Joined October 2012
Canada21 Posts
June 01 2019 00:16 GMT
#10413
Barcode
battlenet:://starcraft/profile/3/16155309082046103552
https://starcraft2.com/ko-kr/profile/3/1/4636475

Server: KR
League : Diamond

Replay: https://drop.sc/replay/10774603


He uses auto creep spread + maphack. Please check the replay. His play was 100% maphacking and I realized right away in the game when I saw his corruptors moving to my hidden bcs without any vision or scouting.
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20326 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-06-01 03:21:33
June 01 2019 02:55 GMT
#10414
On March 11 2019 04:48 Adnapsc2 wrote:
Hacker name:
Gnuffone

Server: EU
League: Top Master 2v2

Description:
Opponent blind counter builds and drops (one replay with ridiculous dt counter and second one with oracle/ drops catch without information)

Replay:
https://drop.sc/replay/10032233
https://drop.sc/replay/10032223

He asked me for arranged team games and i noticed he was hacking after 20 games. I still played 50 games to confirm it. Some opponents even msged me about how fishy he was playing.

I didnt check all the replays but i think its pointless with these 2.
Peace \\//

And btw, the only team who kinda counter build this guy was slaaap protech and urededkid. It says a lot about them hacking too. Too bad there is no more moderation in sc2.


On March 11 2019 19:37 P3rd0x wrote:
Gnuffone 100% proven maphacker.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1mOKojRGnfw



Gnuffone sc2 on youtube!


https://drop.sc/replay/10038839
https://drop.sc/replay/9798673


Oh man that sucks. Played against him a few dozen times and suspected at times but thought he was just good. Hard to argue with that stuff and some personal anecdotes.

It's sad that hackers can literally hold the #1 spot on ladder for a whole season without action.
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
Adnapsc2
Profile Joined October 2018
47 Posts
June 15 2019 04:58 GMT
#10415
Hello,

This replay shows a player named VeganGains AKA prototype cheating in the 2v2 ladder.
He is a mate of purelegacy. Here is the replay : https://drop.sc/replay/10903206

At min 8.07: i go for a double drop and the guy click to kill it on the fog at min 8.12.
I changed the trajectory of my drops and the guy watch it at min 8.16. In the fog, he pan to see why i didnt go straight forward. I go back to the initial trajectory and he f2 his army into the drop at min 8.23 still without any information.


At min 9.25, i go push on his mate side and just before he watches his mate defenses and moves his phenix to help him. Still without any clue of what i doing and at a perfect timing. The' guy plays with 0 obs.

At min 11.51, his camery freeze and he ghost my double drop and try to catch it. He can see it at min 11.58 but he was following him in the fog before.
Dumbledore
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden725 Posts
June 15 2019 18:01 GMT
#10416
Hacker name:
Hong
battlenet:://starcraft/profile/3/14516961985574207488

Server: KR
League: Dia 1v1

Description:
Zerg has automatic creep spread while tumours are not even selected. (Impossible from legit play)
Blind countered my push and knew exactly where my army was and ran me over.
Always pre-moved army to where my prism was going to drop in their base.

Replay:
https://drop.sc/replay/10908463
Have a nice day ;)
Adnapsc2
Profile Joined October 2018
47 Posts
July 03 2019 19:33 GMT
#10417
https://drop.sc/replay/11052328

A barcode watching my stuff in the fog <3.
I played this game today. The only weird thing is he didnt defend a liberator but he seems low lvl ppl using hacks.
ProTech
Profile Joined November 2010
United States443 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-08-05 14:41:11
August 05 2019 14:41 GMT
#10418
ProTech
Profile Joined November 2010
United States443 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-08-14 22:15:46
August 14 2019 22:15 GMT
#10419
Hacker: AlexJones
Server: NA

7:40 moves his army to his team mates base and mass pings his team mates a double drop is coming, completely unscouted.

https://drop.sc/replay/11453949
ProTech
Profile Joined November 2010
United States443 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-11-14 11:42:20
November 14 2019 11:41 GMT
#10420
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