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You have to provide some kind of evidence/proof (screenshots/replays etc.) if you are going to accuse somebody.

Additionally, a supporting comment of what people should be looking for and when will be necessary if you are posting replays/evidence.
NeXaSC2
Profile Joined May 2012
44 Posts
April 05 2015 14:40 GMT
#9161
On April 05 2015 21:23 GreenMash wrote:
AlainSoral
NA
Masters
http://drop.sc/395392

Counters all my moves. No scouting. No Spotting Observers.

He proxy 2gate me in my base on Deadwing without scouting. This guy is an obvious hacker.
JarJarBings
Profile Joined April 2015
France1 Post
April 05 2015 17:56 GMT
#9162
On April 04 2015 21:03 zerge wrote:
[RFox]JarJarBings
http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/4306761/1/JarJarBings/
EU
Diamond
http://drop.sc/395350

He called me maphacker the whole game so i checked the replay the evidence is pretty conclusive:
18:28 moves his whole army to clear overlord from his 3rd
20:10 Sends half his army to clear a handful of zerglings that is waiting 2 screens away
20:47 He sees my mutas aproaching and changes the direction of his medivacs
21:48 Brings his mines in position for the incoming attack
23:28 Another dropship boostes away as my mutas approach
26:06- 26:52: Stims 2 marines to clear zergling and Overlord at 4 base location (3 times blind stim)


LEL I just saw you reported me here when in fact all I wanted was to report you for those ''weird" mutas move
Dude don't tell people I'm hacking when you do cus all those mutas move were 100% weird or lucky it's call it weird not lucky tbh... Btw I did saw those lings cus you brought them on my third and they went away in this direction as long as I know
For the medivac that boostes away I did saw your mutas except for one but I could have been sure they were here cus of the last mutas positioning

InfCereal
Profile Joined December 2011
Canada1759 Posts
April 06 2015 00:02 GMT
#9163
Hey,

So these games: http://sc2overwatch.com/search/5895950/games have an obnoxiously large amount of votes compared to everything else. Looks like vote fixing to me, so if some of you guys could watch the replays and reply here whether you think he's innocent or not, I'll remove the player entirely if you think it's fixed.

Reasoning: It's a gold player, and has the most votes out of everyone on the site. Wut.

Cereal
flipstar
Profile Joined January 2011
226 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-06 02:24:03
April 06 2015 02:19 GMT
#9164
On April 06 2015 09:02 InfCereal wrote:
Hey,

So these games: http://sc2overwatch.com/search/5895950/games have an obnoxiously large amount of votes compared to everything else. Looks like vote fixing to me, so if some of you guys could watch the replays and reply here whether you think he's innocent or not, I'll remove the player entirely if you think it's fixed.

Reasoning: It's a gold player, and has the most votes out of everyone on the site. Wut.



I looked at this game: http://sc2overwatch.com/game/63

He's definitely hacking. Flawless injects and weird blind play vs an early rush with burrow (early spore in main). The most obvious is at 14:30, where you can see him moving to his third blindly at the perfect time. Of course he maintains flawless injects during this, as any gold player would. ^^

edit:

It would be nice with some sort of account being needed for votes, this seems abusable.
FFW_Rude
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France10201 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-06 07:30:03
April 06 2015 07:29 GMT
#9165
On April 06 2015 09:02 InfCereal wrote:
Hey,

So these games: http://sc2overwatch.com/search/5895950/games have an obnoxiously large amount of votes compared to everything else. Looks like vote fixing to me, so if some of you guys could watch the replays and reply here whether you think he's innocent or not, I'll remove the player entirely if you think it's fixed.

Reasoning: It's a gold player, and has the most votes out of everyone on the site. Wut.



Account + IP per vote should reduce abuse if you have some. But IP vote could suffice.
#1 KT Rolster fanboy. KT BEST KT ! Hail to KT playoffs Zergs ! Unofficial french translator for SlayerS_`Boxer` biography "Crazy as me".
TelecoM
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States10682 Posts
April 06 2015 07:33 GMT
#9166
On April 06 2015 16:29 FFW_Rude wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2015 09:02 InfCereal wrote:
Hey,

So these games: http://sc2overwatch.com/search/5895950/games have an obnoxiously large amount of votes compared to everything else. Looks like vote fixing to me, so if some of you guys could watch the replays and reply here whether you think he's innocent or not, I'll remove the player entirely if you think it's fixed.

Reasoning: It's a gold player, and has the most votes out of everyone on the site. Wut.



Account + IP per vote should reduce abuse if you have some. But IP vote could suffice.


Good point!
AKA: TelecoM[WHITE] Protoss fighting
impirion
Profile Joined October 2010
124 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-06 10:14:27
April 06 2015 10:10 GMT
#9167
On April 06 2015 09:02 InfCereal wrote:
Hey,

So these games: http://sc2overwatch.com/search/5895950/games have an obnoxiously large amount of votes compared to everything else. Looks like vote fixing to me, so if some of you guys could watch the replays and reply here whether you think he's innocent or not, I'll remove the player entirely if you think it's fixed.

Reasoning: It's a gold player, and has the most votes out of everyone on the site. Wut.



So apparently, this is an attempt to try and "frame" the real FnG, and it is impressive how far this has gone, including creating an unofficial sc2overwatch twitter account to try and screw with him. The real FnG apparently plays under Qmee on europe and SUPcase on NA. Hotkeys of the hacking games on left and real guy on right show they are clearly different players. Apparently all due to some beef over in the GnR clan.
InfCereal
Profile Joined December 2011
Canada1759 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-06 11:28:11
April 06 2015 11:27 GMT
#9168
On April 06 2015 19:10 impirion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2015 09:02 InfCereal wrote:
Hey,

So these games: http://sc2overwatch.com/search/5895950/games have an obnoxiously large amount of votes compared to everything else. Looks like vote fixing to me, so if some of you guys could watch the replays and reply here whether you think he's innocent or not, I'll remove the player entirely if you think it's fixed.

Reasoning: It's a gold player, and has the most votes out of everyone on the site. Wut.



So apparently, this is an attempt to try and "frame" the real FnG, and it is impressive how far this has gone, including creating an unofficial sc2overwatch twitter account to try and screw with him. The real FnG apparently plays under Qmee on europe and SUPcase on NA. Hotkeys of the hacking games on left and real guy on right show they are clearly different players. Apparently all due to some beef over in the GnR clan.


The account reported is: http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/5895950/1/FnG/. With a fixed URL, that is: http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/5895950/1/SUPCase/

Whether someone is framing him or not, I don't know. However, the account is his.


I do track IPs. All three games are voting on by the exact same people, however I did post these games in this thread earlier so I can't rule out it's just from that.
Cereal
BakedButters
Profile Joined November 2011
United States748 Posts
April 06 2015 13:12 GMT
#9169
On April 06 2015 02:56 JarJarBings wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2015 21:03 zerge wrote:
[RFox]JarJarBings
http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/4306761/1/JarJarBings/
EU
Diamond
http://drop.sc/395350

He called me maphacker the whole game so i checked the replay the evidence is pretty conclusive:
18:28 moves his whole army to clear overlord from his 3rd
20:10 Sends half his army to clear a handful of zerglings that is waiting 2 screens away
20:47 He sees my mutas aproaching and changes the direction of his medivacs
21:48 Brings his mines in position for the incoming attack
23:28 Another dropship boostes away as my mutas approach
26:06- 26:52: Stims 2 marines to clear zergling and Overlord at 4 base location (3 times blind stim)


LEL I just saw you reported me here when in fact all I wanted was to report you for those ''weird" mutas move
Dude don't tell people I'm hacking when you do cus all those mutas move were 100% weird or lucky it's call it weird not lucky tbh... Btw I did saw those lings cus you brought them on my third and they went away in this direction as long as I know
For the medivac that boostes away I did saw your mutas except for one but I could have been sure they were here cus of the last mutas positioning



JarJarBings
23:28 - you boosted your medivacs away from the mutas before you even saw them. Definitive incident of hacking

Meanwhile:
The zerg had suspicious muta movement to avoid the mines.
20:47 and 23:28 - As well as two weird/ lucky muta change of direction to stop the medivacs
Snute <3 Bomber <3 Parting <3 Life <3
flipstar
Profile Joined January 2011
226 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-06 14:46:57
April 06 2015 14:29 GMT
#9170
Both JarJar and Zerge hacks imo. 23:28 is obvious from JarJar, and the fact that the only times the mutas blindly flew south to intercept the medivacs was when there actually was medivacs on the way. The change of direction on the mutas makes it very obvious as well. "Gonna harass..... OR no, i gotta defend my 4th, might be medivacs on the way".

My god this thread is depressing.

Edit:
Messaged leader of Tagg who would check it out. I couldnt find jarjar in RFox unfortunately.
impirion
Profile Joined October 2010
124 Posts
April 06 2015 14:56 GMT
#9171
I think the burrow mines randomly near 3rd and pre split without seeing a thing having not pre split at all before is just as damning at 22:00 ish mins. He literally had no vision of the attack coming but prepared for it as if he knew it was.
Mraptor
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
France26 Posts
April 06 2015 19:15 GMT
#9172
Hello, at first I shown this replay to my mates because I thought it was funny how hard he rages (I won) but by looking over it, we find it's suspicious.

His name : Kiki
Server : EU
League : Diamond
Profile : http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/4681655/1/Kiki/ - Couldn't retrieve the ingame profile because the match entry has bugged. So not sure it's him but so far it matches.
Replay : http://drop.sc/395441

What we noticed :
- Around 6mins : Looks over the pylon I'm proxying and sends lings, but could be just global checkin.
- Around 8mins : Before I push with blink stalker and archon he looks over my army
- After the push : Rallies straight to the gold, no scout.
- He pushes twice when my army is moving out to position between the gold and the ramp, look for that as well.
- After I push him back he looks over my fourth without scouting it for a good second.

What I think is weird : He did still take damage with DTs, so 1) he may be hacking but he's bad at handling things properly so couldn't handle my zealot push then look for dt harass or 2) he's just a very lucky raging boy.

Btw I didn't handle this game very well but good enough for him to rage.
Also is there an option to report the account outside the game? Ty in advance guys!
ksyrog
Profile Joined September 2012
Poland15 Posts
April 06 2015 19:23 GMT
#9173
Hello, at first I shown this replay to my mates because I thought it was funny how hard he rages (I won) but by looking over it, we find it's suspicious.

His name : Kiki
Server : EU
League : Diamond
Profile : http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/4681655/1/Kiki/ - Couldn't retrieve the ingame profile because the match entry has bugged. So not sure it's him but so far it matches.
Replay : http://drop.sc/395441


I reported this guy in this thread (and to Blizzard) back in January...
phodacbiet
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1740 Posts
April 06 2015 19:26 GMT
#9174
On April 07 2015 04:23 ksyrog wrote:
Show nested quote +
Hello, at first I shown this replay to my mates because I thought it was funny how hard he rages (I won) but by looking over it, we find it's suspicious.

His name : Kiki
Server : EU
League : Diamond
Profile : http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/4681655/1/Kiki/ - Couldn't retrieve the ingame profile because the match entry has bugged. So not sure it's him but so far it matches.
Replay : http://drop.sc/395441


I reported this guy in this thread (and to Blizzard) back in January...


Nice, so this thread actually doesn't do anything other than to let people know they are playing a hacker? Unless they dont read this thread.
flipstar
Profile Joined January 2011
226 Posts
April 06 2015 19:55 GMT
#9175
On April 07 2015 04:26 phodacbiet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2015 04:23 ksyrog wrote:
Hello, at first I shown this replay to my mates because I thought it was funny how hard he rages (I won) but by looking over it, we find it's suspicious.

His name : Kiki
Server : EU
League : Diamond
Profile : http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/4681655/1/Kiki/ - Couldn't retrieve the ingame profile because the match entry has bugged. So not sure it's him but so far it matches.
Replay : http://drop.sc/395441


I reported this guy in this thread (and to Blizzard) back in January...


Nice, so this thread actually doesn't do anything other than to let people know they are playing a hacker? Unless they dont read this thread.


Well, you can let the clans know, if they are in one. Eventually, when we have a big enough "shit list", people can make a habit of doing some background checking before letting people into the clan.

If Blizzard isn't doing anything, we can at least remove the social aspect for them. It's great that we have a site dedicated for it now, gj.
Gwavajuice
Profile Joined June 2014
France1810 Posts
April 06 2015 20:54 GMT
#9176
On April 07 2015 04:26 phodacbiet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 07 2015 04:23 ksyrog wrote:
Hello, at first I shown this replay to my mates because I thought it was funny how hard he rages (I won) but by looking over it, we find it's suspicious.

His name : Kiki
Server : EU
League : Diamond
Profile : http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/4681655/1/Kiki/ - Couldn't retrieve the ingame profile because the match entry has bugged. So not sure it's him but so far it matches.
Replay : http://drop.sc/395441


I reported this guy in this thread (and to Blizzard) back in January...


Nice, so this thread actually doesn't do anything other than to let people know they are playing a hacker? Unless they dont read this thread.



This thread is just meant to build a database of confirmed hackers and to discuss evidence and suspicious replays. It has no impact whatsoever on the hacker himself nor his account, except for infamy and public shaming.

Only Blizzard can take actions toward the hackers, which they do from time to time, but they need a proper report with a replay attached for this.

In another hand, this thread can raise awarness about some players and make people save and send replay to blizzard more often when they mett these guys on ladder.
Dear INno and all the former STX boys.
zerge
Profile Joined December 2012
Germany162 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-06 21:43:02
April 06 2015 21:39 GMT
#9177
On April 06 2015 22:12 BakedButters wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2015 02:56 JarJarBings wrote:
On April 04 2015 21:03 zerge wrote:
[RFox]JarJarBings
http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/4306761/1/JarJarBings/
EU
Diamond
http://drop.sc/395350

He called me maphacker the whole game so i checked the replay the evidence is pretty conclusive:
18:28 moves his whole army to clear overlord from his 3rd
20:10 Sends half his army to clear a handful of zerglings that is waiting 2 screens away
20:47 He sees my mutas aproaching and changes the direction of his medivacs
21:48 Brings his mines in position for the incoming attack
23:28 Another dropship boostes away as my mutas approach
26:06- 26:52: Stims 2 marines to clear zergling and Overlord at 4 base location (3 times blind stim)


LEL I just saw you reported me here when in fact all I wanted was to report you for those ''weird" mutas move
Dude don't tell people I'm hacking when you do cus all those mutas move were 100% weird or lucky it's call it weird not lucky tbh... Btw I did saw those lings cus you brought them on my third and they went away in this direction as long as I know
For the medivac that boostes away I did saw your mutas except for one but I could have been sure they were here cus of the last mutas positioning



JarJarBings
23:28 - you boosted your medivacs away from the mutas before you even saw them. Definitive incident of hacking

Meanwhile:
The zerg had suspicious muta movement to avoid the mines.
20:47 and 23:28 - As well as two weird/ lucky muta change of direction to stop the medivacs


On April 06 2015 23:29 flipstar wrote:
Both JarJar and Zerge hacks imo. 23:28 is obvious from JarJar, and the fact that the only times the mutas blindly flew south to intercept the medivacs was when there actually was medivacs on the way. The change of direction on the mutas makes it very obvious as well. "Gonna harass..... OR no, i gotta defend my 4th, might be medivacs on the way".

My god this thread is depressing.

Edit:
Messaged leader of Tagg who would check it out. I couldnt find jarjar in RFox unfortunately.



You can actually see the burrowed mines even without detection, the fact that he burrowed them all at one place made it even easier to see.
As for the muta movement its neither lucky nor am i hacking. I simply set them at a attack shift route towards his third in order to avoid his army and catch eventual drops. I first sent them to his main but decided against it since i assumed that he has turret coverage there from my previous attack and i was scared of drops because of the messy early game i had no overlord spread. He then flies through the vision of my mutas while i transfer drones to my 4th. As for the second drop to the south i simply take the same route as before, i pulled the mutas back at first because i only noticed it as i get the 'units under attack' warning and i was suspecting double medivacs. As for the drop in my natural i didnt see it coming and i just chase down the medivac as its flying around on creep.
What you guys dont seem to understand is that i switched targets (decided against main, decided to take drop route to 3rd) which is no indication of maphack whatsoever.
Meanwhile he selects his medivacs and boosts them to the edge of the map. He didnt switch targets (as in fly to the 4th boost to the main which would be perfectly fine) he aborted his mission without having gathered any further information about my army positioning.

On a side not this is a very good example as to why i dont like the site overwatch at all, you get to cast a vote without having to reason your judgment. Aside from that if it gets more popular and even if you check for ips or have people sign up i have no doubt that there will be replays of someone getting a build order counter and having his friends vote for guilty (there have been plenty of posts like that in this thread minus the anonymous verification).
I appreciate your efforts InfCereal but i dont think there is a way around having someone trustworthy and knowledgeable watch these replay if you want to compile an up to date list of hackers.
AntiHacker
Profile Joined March 2015
Turkey2 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-07 10:11:45
April 07 2015 10:11 GMT
#9178
Nickname : InSTinK
Server : NA
League : Master
Profile : http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/403486/1/InSTinK/
Replay: http://drop.sc/395836

Its so obvious he hack. He's moving his army and getting them posioning into the me without seeing me or sending any scout!
In the last part of game he moved his army to blockade me without no recon or seeing me or scaning me how could he knows if he not a hacker? This is so obvious he hack also he scanned my vipers to see them for making more vikings to destroy them quickly in the middle of the game. Where he knows all of this My army? My base? My Units? This is so strange and his hack is so obvious just as i wrote in the begining of this thread. I hope he'll get a ban quickly. I also reported him more 20 to blizzard!
TelecoM
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States10682 Posts
April 07 2015 10:15 GMT
#9179
On April 07 2015 19:11 AntiHacker wrote:
Nickname : InSTinK
Server : NA
League : Master
Profile : http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/403486/1/InSTinK/
Replay: http://drop.sc/395836

Its so obvious he hack. He's moving his army and getting them posioning into the me without seeing me or sending any scout!
In the last part of game he moved his army to blockade me without no recon or seeing me or scaning me how could he knows if he not a hacker? This is so obvious he hack also he scanned my vipers to see them for making more vikings to destroy them quickly in the middle of the game. Where he knows all of this My army? My base? My Units? This is so strange and his hack is so obvious just as i wrote in the begining of this thread. I hope he'll get a ban quickly. I also reported him more 20 to blizzard!


I played this guy recently, going to try and find the replay.
AKA: TelecoM[WHITE] Protoss fighting
Gwavajuice
Profile Joined June 2014
France1810 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-07 11:28:03
April 07 2015 11:26 GMT
#9180
On April 07 2015 19:11 AntiHacker wrote:
Nickname : InSTinK
Server : NA
League : Master
Profile : http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/403486/1/InSTinK/
Replay: http://drop.sc/395836

Its so obvious he hack. He's moving his army and getting them posioning into the me without seeing me or sending any scout!
In the last part of game he moved his army to blockade me without no recon or seeing me or scaning me how could he knows if he not a hacker? This is so obvious he hack also he scanned my vipers to see them for making more vikings to destroy them quickly in the middle of the game. Where he knows all of this My army? My base? My Units? This is so strange and his hack is so obvious just as i wrote in the begining of this thread. I hope he'll get a ban quickly. I also reported him more 20 to blizzard!



Watched the whole replay from is point of view :

1 - no evidence of hacking whatsoever
2 - more like evidence of not hacking cause many times he would have done things better if he was hacking (killing overlords faster, better positionning of his army, defending your runbyes...)
3 - big evidence of you being salty.

You seriously reported him 20 times to blizzard? Not only it makes you look ridiculous but also spamming false accusations won't help blizzard in busting the real hackers...

Edit : I'm sure the kind of guy that also rant about Blizzard doing nothing about hackers...

Dear INno and all the former STX boys.
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