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You have to provide some kind of evidence/proof (screenshots/replays etc.) if you are going to accuse somebody.

Additionally, a supporting comment of what people should be looking for and when will be necessary if you are posting replays/evidence.
Grimmyman123
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada939 Posts
June 02 2012 04:02 GMT
#881
Heh, if it was Canada... Guess how many parties need to be aware of a conversation being recorded? One. The other party does not have to consent. Still legal.
Win. That's all that matters. Win. Nobody likes to lose.
Drinc
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden98 Posts
June 02 2012 10:29 GMT
#882
http://drop.sc/190046

KiiRjEk. Mid Master Protoss maphacker.
Ripebananaa
Profile Joined September 2011
Canada129 Posts
June 02 2012 16:33 GMT
#883
Well, if anyone says they'll "see you in court in 2 weeks", you know they aren't serious. Usually takes about 2 years to get into a court. Shit's not like walking to Wal-Mart.
Crowned
Profile Joined August 2011
United States368 Posts
June 02 2012 16:48 GMT
#884
On June 02 2012 19:29 Drinc wrote:
http://drop.sc/190046

KiiRjEk. Mid Master Protoss maphacker.


Yes, definitely map hacking. Knows where your army and pylons are through the fog of war at all times and looks through your base several times.
It's cool to love to win, but it's better to hate to lose.
Internet_justice
Profile Joined June 2012
20 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-02 20:04:31
June 02 2012 20:04 GMT
#885
On June 02 2012 11:17 Sein wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2012 02:28 LGimbaASfuts wrote:
Lightpwner just messaged me today. Here's what he said. hehe

Venusaur: Hi this is lightpwnr
you recorded my voice illegally
I am suing you
see you in court in two weeks
You: what up
Venusaur: you will receive a letter in two to threedys
You: causing a rucus i see
how can you say i hack yo
lol
Venusaur: you can contact my lawyers at
1 (877) 867 5356
You: you are a funny lil kid :D
Venusaur: you invaded my privacy and as a diplomats son i will see you in court
You: i'll pass
Venusaur: have fun in jail ^.6
^.^
You: lmao!
you didn't answer my question
Venusaur: what question?
You: why did you say i hack when you watched my stream every night
Venusaur: how it is illegal to record someone whitout their perimission
I have not viewed your stream
I have been banned from it since around two years ago
when you accidentally clicked ban
You: who is the lightpwner user that watches my stream then hmmm
Venusaur: lightpwnr is me
lightpwner is not


Since he was on the clan, do you know how old he is? It's really hard to believe that he is anything older than 11.


I believe his team LG profile says that he is 17 and from Florida. Not surprised at these kinds of threats.
FabledIntegral
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States9232 Posts
June 02 2012 20:08 GMT
#886
I honestly wonder if he thinks he's scaring other people by saying that shit. Not the brightest kid.
CAPSLOCKLOL
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States135 Posts
June 02 2012 20:27 GMT
#887
On June 03 2012 05:04 Internet_justice wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2012 11:17 Sein wrote:
On June 02 2012 02:28 LGimbaASfuts wrote:
Lightpwner just messaged me today. Here's what he said. hehe

Venusaur: Hi this is lightpwnr
you recorded my voice illegally
I am suing you
see you in court in two weeks
You: what up
Venusaur: you will receive a letter in two to threedys
You: causing a rucus i see
how can you say i hack yo
lol
Venusaur: you can contact my lawyers at
1 (877) 867 5356
You: you are a funny lil kid :D
Venusaur: you invaded my privacy and as a diplomats son i will see you in court
You: i'll pass
Venusaur: have fun in jail ^.6
^.^
You: lmao!
you didn't answer my question
Venusaur: what question?
You: why did you say i hack when you watched my stream every night
Venusaur: how it is illegal to record someone whitout their perimission
I have not viewed your stream
I have been banned from it since around two years ago
when you accidentally clicked ban
You: who is the lightpwner user that watches my stream then hmmm
Venusaur: lightpwnr is me
lightpwner is not


Since he was on the clan, do you know how old he is? It's really hard to believe that he is anything older than 11.


I believe his team LG profile says that he is 17 and from Florida. Not surprised at these kinds of threats.


I kept reading this thread thinking lightpwner sounded familiar, and I realized this kid messaged me once about joining my HSL team since we live in the same area. Him being 17 sounds about right since he told me he was in 10th grade, he seemed pretty normal back then though. He was low masters when we spoke (a few months ago) so I guess he must've lost it sometime between when I spoke to him and when he started maphacking.
Internet_justice
Profile Joined June 2012
20 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-02 20:53:18
June 02 2012 20:52 GMT
#888
On June 03 2012 05:08 FabledIntegral wrote:
I honestly wonder if he thinks he's scaring other people by saying that shit. Not the brightest kid.

Considering that is tied to his real name etc I would say he is most assuredly not the brightest. Mods: not posting 'personal info' but but it isn't exactly private info, lol.
ZweiGaming
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada348 Posts
June 02 2012 21:13 GMT
#889
On June 02 2012 19:29 Drinc wrote:
http://drop.sc/190046

KiiRjEk. Mid Master Protoss maphacker.


Too low master, but I suggest you report via the in-game system and via email at hacks@blizzard to have him banned eventually Thanks for the report
ChosenBrad1322
Profile Joined April 2012
United States562 Posts
June 02 2012 21:21 GMT
#890
This is a great effort by everyone and I hate to be a downer, but there are always going to be hacks and losers who use them. Unless Blizzard comes up with some sort of anti-hack launcher or something, the "report someone who is hacking" method is way too slow and takes way too much man-power to enforce effectively when you are talking about hundreds of thousands of gamers.

We could at least maybe try to police the GM ladder though I guess.
Picklebread
Profile Joined June 2011
808 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-03 02:06:53
June 03 2012 02:04 GMT
#891
Venasaur (lightpwnr) vs THORZAIN
http://drop.sc/190334
This is honestly no fair. This guys facing thorzain on B net ladder and hes sending his first overlord to his natural? What a freaking joke.
fairymonger
Profile Joined June 2011
United States81 Posts
June 03 2012 02:17 GMT
#892
Good job Zwei! Keep up the good work!
Never give up on your dreams. Without dreams man is nothing
CAPSLOCKLOL
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States135 Posts
June 03 2012 02:19 GMT
#893
So I spoke to lightpwner (Venasaur) and he denies he ever maphacked. He also mentioned he's in the process of joining a new team and trying to decide between Habitat or NMx. Guess he was lying about quitting. Someone who knows the leader of either of these teams should probably let them know.
coL.hendralisk
Profile Joined September 2009
Zimbabwe1756 Posts
June 03 2012 02:31 GMT
#894
On June 03 2012 11:19 CAPSLOCKLOL wrote:
So I spoke to lightpwner (Venasaur) and he denies he ever maphacked. He also mentioned he's in the process of joining a new team and trying to decide between Habitat or NMx. Guess he was lying about quitting. Someone who knows the leader of either of these teams should probably let them know.


He doesnt qualify for NMx A team and I'm sure B team wouldn't take him
nkr
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Sweden5451 Posts
June 03 2012 02:45 GMT
#895
On June 03 2012 11:04 Picklebread wrote:
Venasaur (lightpwnr) vs THORZAIN
http://drop.sc/190334
This is honestly no fair. This guys facing thorzain on B net ladder and hes sending his first overlord to his natural? What a freaking joke.


Watched the replay and while he didnt scout much, not sending the overlord to the opponents side could be because he doesnt want thorzain to kill it with a barracks lift. The replay really shows nothing.
ESPORTS ILLUMINATI
insanet
Profile Joined January 2010
Peru439 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-03 02:50:06
June 03 2012 02:45 GMT
#896
On June 03 2012 06:21 ChosenSC2 wrote:
This is a great effort by everyone and I hate to be a downer, but there are always going to be hacks and losers who use them. Unless Blizzard comes up with some sort of anti-hack launcher or something, the "report someone who is hacking" method is way too slow and takes way too much man-power to enforce effectively when you are talking about hundreds of thousands of gamers.

We could at least maybe try to police the GM ladder though I guess.


The thing is hacks will always exist. I am from a little quake 3 community back in day, and what worked for us was a BAN FOR LIFE policy, no mercy to any hacker, admins shared ips ban list, and a public list of hackers was available. your whole reputation as a player got destroyed and this was effective as a warning for everyone else.

Thats why i think a subforum for reporting hackers should exist, it doenst matter if blizzard takes ages in banning them, it could help potential hackers to think twice before they risk to be banned from the comunnity for life and be on the wall of shame forever.
Prophanity
Profile Joined January 2012
United States165 Posts
June 03 2012 03:37 GMT
#897
Yes hacks will always exist and that is fine. Steroids will always exist in MLB too; what is important is that we continue to allow neither to be used in a competitive environment. People's livelihoods are at stake here and while we may never really be able to stop or prevent all hackers and cheaters, we must take whatever measures we can as a community, regardless of ineffectiveness or inefficiency, to limit and deter it - the single most dangerous thing that can happen in esports is for the community to turn a blind eye and allow these things to undermine the legitimacy of what we love.

However unwinnable the fight may be, things like this thread are of the utmost importance.
DaRkFrosT
Profile Joined September 2010
United States407 Posts
June 03 2012 16:51 GMT
#898
I still don't understand the point of map hacking for Starcraft II. What kind of advantage does it give over good scouting? Can't you figure out every little thing the enemy player does by good scouting? IE Overlord speed, scans, multiple observers.
Libera me from hell.
Adreme
Profile Joined June 2011
United States5574 Posts
June 03 2012 16:56 GMT
#899
On June 04 2012 01:51 DaRkFrosT wrote:
I still don't understand the point of map hacking for Starcraft II. What kind of advantage does it give over good scouting? Can't you figure out every little thing the enemy player does by good scouting? IE Overlord speed, scans, multiple observers.


You get MULES instead of scans. Its fairly easy to deny OL scout in midgame. You know whatever build your opponent is doing and can always pick the perfect counter to it.
uriel-
Profile Joined August 2007
Singapore1867 Posts
June 03 2012 16:56 GMT
#900
On June 04 2012 01:51 DaRkFrosT wrote:
I still don't understand the point of map hacking for Starcraft II. What kind of advantage does it give over good scouting? Can't you figure out every little thing the enemy player does by good scouting? IE Overlord speed, scans, multiple observers.


Are you being serious or trying to sound like a good player? No player no matter how strong can see everything all the time. A maphack is such a ridiculous advantage I'm having trouble believing that it needs to be explained to anybody.
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