EPTOn December 25 2014 06:47 AnexisVerdi wrote:
Sry for my bm , dat maphack body is really rage-outed me .
Sry for my bm , dat maphack body is really rage-outed me .
dont you always bm in general ?
GM / Master map hacker and general hacking and cheating th…
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ablagesys
Austria18 Posts
dont you always bm in general ? | ||
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TelecoM
United States10700 Posts
On December 25 2014 07:34 Nogard wrote: On the other hand I think this is NOT the real frozz.. The real FROZZ? I always thought the REAL Frozz was from BW, from USA, I am confused... | ||
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Nogard
Italy40 Posts
On December 25 2014 10:07 GGzerG wrote: The real FROZZ? I always thought the REAL Frozz was from BW, from USA, I am confused... Verdi and I are talking about this  frozzI never played bw, maybe you're thinking about this FroZ (I did a quick search on google, don't judge me!). | ||
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playa
United States1284 Posts
On December 25 2014 07:27 AprilTerran wrote: You're thinking of Boreal eSports... Deezer was never on our team? Please feel free to provide ample evidence before making such silly claims. Normally, I wouldn't bother taking the time, but after letting Cham get away with hacking and seeing how he now plays in a hacking clan, I guess you can thank him. This can't be the future of Starcraft or there is no future for SC, when team ascension is the most prominent "legit" clan on ladder. The bottom line is, whether I'm right or not in who it is, the player banned in the base trade tournament was on their team last season. If it isn't Deezer, who is it? They should know, right? How do I know it's the same person? The truth of the matter is, on the NA ladder, atm, the biggest determining factor on your rank is how much you choose to "game select." What this means is, when you play a blatant hacker, you note them. So, when you're searching for a game, depending on your mood/how much you care about rank, you will try to make sure these people you have noted are already in a game, if they're online and not afk. So, the barcode that was on team ascension was a noted player who was in top 16. Anytime you play a hacker in the top 16, you're going to "look them up." This is an account which was unique in that not only did it finish third last season, but it was clearly a shared account, as a Zerg player took over later and finished the season. So, lots of Toss and Zerg games. After the basetrade tournament, I looked up the account I suspected it was and looked at the match history; it was the barcode who played the matches in question, the account that finished third last season, with lots of Zerg and Toss games. As for why do I think it's Deezer? Someone told me they're friends with this cheater and informed me that it was Deezer. This person even described a game I played versus them, when they had no way of knowing, otherwise. So, I will submit some screen shots of hotkey charts: 1 game played versus the account "Deezer;" 2 against the barcode when in team ascension, and 3 from the games submitted from the basetrade tournament. The chart of game that made me note the barcode and inform team ascension of hacking: http://postimg.org/image/t8uxjh8pr/ Chart of a game that I played versus the account "ratzdeezer": http://postimg.org/image/6sg9d0p9f/ The chart of the first game I played vs the Team A account: http://postimg.org/image/qp11ulkvl/ (clearly, someone else was playing on this account) Base trade game on overgrowth: http://postimg.org/image/bpydob99p/ Base trade game on foxtrot: http://postimg.org/image/gv9ex7ws1/ Base trade game on merry go round: http://postimg.org/image/w0e2mlbpj/ In conclusion, every game shown but one is 100% Deezer. Everything is a match. The game that isn't a match is an example of the smurfing/account sharing this team does. If you play "aprilterran" in a clan war, assume you're playing major. This is the only team that has barcodes on it. I watched nerfy stream and I saw his friend (opponent) talking to him about boosting accounts for team ascension. We can only assume a good friend of nerfys is likely to be a hacker, and maybe that person was deezer... A month ago, a friend of mine wanted to join this team and asked me what I knew about them, and I I had to inform her of what I came across on their liquipedia in the past, which was they were a team known for hacking. So, while not all of them are "bad apples," this team has done nothing to show it isn't embracing hackers. As for euphoria, who was mentioned as a hacker on the same page I chimed in, why not call them out for evidence? Is that not weird to anyone? I have one note regarding something not dealing with hacking or simply identifying a barcode. It happens to be on Euporia, and it reads as "BM kid that got bopped." I'd be so surprised to find out this guy hacks... Why is it that team ascensions highest rated players are never reputable? AprilTerran should be banned if he/she doesn't at least explain how known hackers/cheaters are getting on their team. Well, given the reason will be a lie... please just ban.. | ||
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Jade
Poland289 Posts
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CysticFibros
Germany26 Posts
he has not scouted with me saw not the proxy 2 gate but chrono boost his zealot's and Stalker Name: IIIIIIIIIIIII Replay: http://drop.sc/390750 Race: Protoss Profil: battlenet://starcraft/profile/2/3907852363079090176 Server: EU | ||
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NeThZOR
South Africa7387 Posts
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Strelok
Ukraine320 Posts
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NeThZOR
South Africa7387 Posts
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Eatme
Switzerland3919 Posts
On December 25 2014 10:39 Nogard wrote: Verdi and I are talking about this frozzI never played bw, maybe you're thinking about this FroZ (I did a quick search on google, don't judge me!).I have actually played FroZ in SC2. Think it was a 3v3 in late WoL. Not that this have anything to do with anything. | ||
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SCG.StatiC
South Africa33 Posts
Server: EU League: Diamond (master mmr) http://drop.sc/390757 Sends his first zealot directly to my proxy stargate without any vision outside his base, didn't send any probe to scout and see I had a missing pylon or anything. Always knows where my army is. Puts down robo as I put down DT shrine etc.. | ||
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duckk
United States622 Posts
On December 25 2014 10:41 playa wrote: Normally, I wouldn't bother taking the time, but after letting Cham get away with hacking and seeing how he now plays in a hacking clan, I guess you can thank him. This can't be the future of Starcraft or there is no future for SC, when team ascension is the most prominent "legit" clan on ladder. The bottom line is, whether I'm right or not in who it is, the player banned in the base trade tournament was on their team last season. If it isn't Deezer, who is it? They should know, right? How do I know it's the same person? The truth of the matter is, on the NA ladder, atm, the biggest determining factor on your rank is how much you choose to "game select." What this means is, when you play a blatant hacker, you note them. So, when you're searching for a game, depending on your mood/how much you care about rank, you will try to make sure these people you have noted are already in a game, if they're online and not afk. So, the barcode that was on team ascension was a noted player who was in top 16. Anytime you play a hacker in the top 16, you're going to "look them up." This is an account which was unique in that not only did it finish third last season, but it was clearly a shared account, as a Zerg player took over later and finished the season. So, lots of Toss and Zerg games. After the basetrade tournament, I looked up the account I suspected it was and looked at the match history; it was the barcode who played the matches in question, the account that finished third last season, with lots of Zerg and Toss games. As for why do I think it's Deezer? Someone told me they're friends with this cheater and informed me that it was Deezer. This person even described a game I played versus them, when they had no way of knowing, otherwise. So, I will submit some screen shots of hotkey charts: 1 game played versus the account "Deezer;" 2 against the barcode when in team ascension, and 3 from the games submitted from the basetrade tournament. The chart of game that made me note the barcode and inform team ascension of hacking: http://postimg.org/image/t8uxjh8pr/ Chart of a game that I played versus the account "ratzdeezer": http://postimg.org/image/6sg9d0p9f/ The chart of the first game I played vs the Team A account: http://postimg.org/image/qp11ulkvl/ (clearly, someone else was playing on this account) Base trade game on overgrowth: http://postimg.org/image/bpydob99p/ Base trade game on foxtrot: http://postimg.org/image/gv9ex7ws1/ Base trade game on merry go round: http://postimg.org/image/w0e2mlbpj/ In conclusion, every game shown but one is 100% Deezer. Everything is a match. The game that isn't a match is an example of the smurfing/account sharing this team does. If you play "aprilterran" in a clan war, assume you're playing major. This is the only team that has barcodes on it. I watched nerfy stream and I saw his friend (opponent) talking to him about boosting accounts for team ascension. We can only assume a good friend of nerfys is likely to be a hacker, and maybe that person was deezer... A month ago, a friend of mine wanted to join this team and asked me what I knew about them, and I I had to inform her of what I came across on their liquipedia in the past, which was they were a team known for hacking. So, while not all of them are "bad apples," this team has done nothing to show it isn't embracing hackers. As for euphoria, who was mentioned as a hacker on the same page I chimed in, why not call them out for evidence? Is that not weird to anyone? I have one note regarding something not dealing with hacking or simply identifying a barcode. It happens to be on Euporia, and it reads as "BM kid that got bopped." I'd be so surprised to find out this guy hacks... Why is it that team ascensions highest rated players are never reputable? AprilTerran should be banned if he/she doesn't at least explain how known hackers/cheaters are getting on their team. Well, given the reason will be a lie... please just ban.. just an FYI, I have known deezer(sadly) for 8 years and he is not any of the players on that account. | ||
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NeThZOR
South Africa7387 Posts
On December 27 2014 06:31 SCG.StatiC wrote: Name: lIlIlIlIlIlI (level 92) Server: EU League: Diamond (master mmr) http://drop.sc/390757 Sends his first zealot directly to my proxy stargate without any vision outside his base, didn't send any probe to scout and see I had a missing pylon or anything. Always knows where my army is. Puts down robo as I put down DT shrine etc.. Confirmed | ||
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scirre
Sweden4 Posts
[STass]EscHerichIA Replay: http://drop.sc/390790 Race: Protoss Server: EU Looks through fog of war at my base at about 3:10, without scouting me. Sends stalker to kill my proxy pylon without scouting it's possible locations... Sends Oracle to kill my probes, without scouting me.. | ||
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playa
United States1284 Posts
On December 27 2014 06:49 duckk wrote: just an FYI, I have known deezer(sadly) for 8 years and he is not any of the players on that account. You have to be telling me someone is impersonating Deezer, then. Because the hotkeys are 100% a match between the ratz deezer account and the account banned in the base trade tournament. Unique hotkeys, too. | ||
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Shin_Gouki
United States313 Posts
On December 27 2014 23:51 playa wrote: You have to be telling me someone is impersonating Deezer, then. Because the hotkeys are 100% a match between the ratz deezer account and the account banned in the base trade tournament. Unique hotkeys, too. Deezer isn't the /only/ player who uses the hotkeys 1-6..., and the evidence you have is truly powerful, but there are some basic discrepancies to assume it could be another player (if he's impersonating deezer, I wouldn't know). Some of the games show 1, 4 and 6 being spammed pretty hard, but a couple of games don't show the same. The first two initial replays between deezer and the barcode look really close, but it should be more consistent no? Just look at how closely related all your hotkeys are in comparison. I'm not arguing for or against here, just simply noting what I see from the graphs you've posted. | ||
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NeThZOR
South Africa7387 Posts
On December 27 2014 23:19 scirre wrote: Name: [STass]EscHerichIA Replay: http://drop.sc/390790 Race: Protoss Server: EU Looks through fog of war at my base at about 3:10, without scouting me. Sends stalker to kill my proxy pylon without scouting it's possible locations... Sends Oracle to kill my probes, without scouting me.. Confirmed, he was indeed maphacking. At least you won the match. | ||
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EH.Devil
Germany24 Posts
server: eu league:diamond race: protoss http://drop.sc/390802 many obvious moments (prep.for drops,catching the reaper,looking at fog of war) | ||
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2v2FOXbOYYE
Sweden1 Post
http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/4404677/1/IIIIIIIIIIII/ http://drop.sc/390805 | ||
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playa
United States1284 Posts
On December 28 2014 01:38 Shin_Gouki wrote: Deezer isn't the /only/ player who uses the hotkeys 1-6..., and the evidence you have is truly powerful, but there are some basic discrepancies to assume it could be another player (if he's impersonating deezer, I wouldn't know). Some of the games show 1, 4 and 6 being spammed pretty hard, but a couple of games don't show the same. The first two initial replays between deezer and the barcode look really close, but it should be more consistent no? Just look at how closely related all your hotkeys are in comparison. I'm not arguing for or against here, just simply noting what I see from the graphs you've posted. You have to think about it with context. So, first off, I was informed by someone claiming to be Deezers friend that the account in question was Deezer. So, I did a compare and contrast versus a game I recently played versus someone at least pretending to be Deezer. The 1-6 is not what is significant. The biggest significance is the gap (5). It's 1-4, 6. No one does that. Then, you take into account the players had the same apm/eapm and all of the hotkeys were corresponding, and now you're trying to convince me why I should be out there committing crimes, because, apparently only taking a selfie while in the act will be damning. As for why there would be differences in spam on 6 (nexus) and 4 (gateway), well, there was a difference in games played. The game vs Ratz Deezer was a macro game. The game vs the barcode was him doing an all-in, where he stopped making probes. Whoever told me it was Deezer obviously knew who it was, because he told me all of the details about the all-in game (vs barcode), despite me not showing the replay to anyone. So, it's either Deezer or someone fooling people into believing it's Deezer. Clearly it's the same person, though, whether you want to believe that's deezer or an impersonator. | ||
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