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You have to provide some kind of evidence/proof (screenshots/replays etc.) if you are going to accuse somebody.

Additionally, a supporting comment of what people should be looking for and when will be necessary if you are posting replays/evidence.
SpeedyBozar
Profile Joined February 2013
England56 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-25 20:49:45
December 25 2013 20:46 GMT
#7621
On December 26 2013 04:57 dani` wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2013 05:06 Bamm wrote:
Name: STONEgolem
Server: EU
League: Master

http://drop.sc/368555

Pretty sure he is a maphacker. @ 14.10 I warp in alot of zealots by edge of my base and he moves where they go before he sees them, doesnt seem too suspicious but then @ 14:58 I send out a warp prism which he doesnt see with his overlord underneath. Then when it comes close to his 5th base he checks the fog of war and then goes with his army to his main before ever seeing it.

I just played that guy. He accused me of maphack so I came to this thread to look at his post and laugh.

Since I don't see a post yet I watched your replay. I have to say those moments you describe are very odd indeed. Purposely changing his path to intercept some Zealots which "happen" to be in that path and moving all his army to his main base after checking fog where a Warp Prism is moving out of his vision are indeed highly suspect.

In the game we just played I doubt he's hacking though, having no detection ready vs my DTs, making many Lings early vs 2 total Zealots coming his way etc. His actions in your replay are indeed curious, though perhaps not definitive.

If you want to you could perhaps compare his hotkey usage / APM etc in your replay and the one where I just played him. Perhaps there's some interesting differences: http://drop.sc/368957


Well first of all he is absolutely obvious maphacker. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=439205

Second of all, he is terran and he played zerg against you. And he is a maphacker, so you can expect him to be a complete retard. And you should also realise there is a possibility he is not hacking in every single game he plays. He can even tell his friends to cover his ass in this thread.

I hate hackers so much. Blizzard doesn't share my feelings though.
dani`
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands2402 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-26 09:42:42
December 26 2013 09:42 GMT
#7622
On December 26 2013 05:46 SpeedyBozar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 26 2013 04:57 dani` wrote:
On December 20 2013 05:06 Bamm wrote:
Name: STONEgolem
Server: EU
League: Master

http://drop.sc/368555

Pretty sure he is a maphacker. @ 14.10 I warp in alot of zealots by edge of my base and he moves where they go before he sees them, doesnt seem too suspicious but then @ 14:58 I send out a warp prism which he doesnt see with his overlord underneath. Then when it comes close to his 5th base he checks the fog of war and then goes with his army to his main before ever seeing it.

I just played that guy. He accused me of maphack so I came to this thread to look at his post and laugh.

Since I don't see a post yet I watched your replay. I have to say those moments you describe are very odd indeed. Purposely changing his path to intercept some Zealots which "happen" to be in that path and moving all his army to his main base after checking fog where a Warp Prism is moving out of his vision are indeed highly suspect.

In the game we just played I doubt he's hacking though, having no detection ready vs my DTs, making many Lings early vs 2 total Zealots coming his way etc. His actions in your replay are indeed curious, though perhaps not definitive.

If you want to you could perhaps compare his hotkey usage / APM etc in your replay and the one where I just played him. Perhaps there's some interesting differences: http://drop.sc/368957


Well first of all he is absolutely obvious maphacker. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=439205

Second of all, he is terran and he played zerg against you. And he is a maphacker, so you can expect him to be a complete retard. And you should also realise there is a possibility he is not hacking in every single game he plays. He can even tell his friends to cover his ass in this thread.

I hate hackers so much. Blizzard doesn't share my feelings though.

The STONEgolem I played is definitely Zerg, as you can see in the screenshots of his profile below. He only has 16 Terran wins vs 316 Zerg wins in his entire career. Also he has a Zerg icon on the ladder page, which means he played most of his ladder games as Zerg.

+ Show Spoiler [img1] +

[image loading]

+ Show Spoiler [img2] +

[image loading]
SpeedyBozar
Profile Joined February 2013
England56 Posts
December 26 2013 12:21 GMT
#7623
On December 26 2013 18:42 dani` wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 26 2013 05:46 SpeedyBozar wrote:
On December 26 2013 04:57 dani` wrote:
On December 20 2013 05:06 Bamm wrote:
Name: STONEgolem
Server: EU
League: Master

http://drop.sc/368555

Pretty sure he is a maphacker. @ 14.10 I warp in alot of zealots by edge of my base and he moves where they go before he sees them, doesnt seem too suspicious but then @ 14:58 I send out a warp prism which he doesnt see with his overlord underneath. Then when it comes close to his 5th base he checks the fog of war and then goes with his army to his main before ever seeing it.

I just played that guy. He accused me of maphack so I came to this thread to look at his post and laugh.

Since I don't see a post yet I watched your replay. I have to say those moments you describe are very odd indeed. Purposely changing his path to intercept some Zealots which "happen" to be in that path and moving all his army to his main base after checking fog where a Warp Prism is moving out of his vision are indeed highly suspect.

In the game we just played I doubt he's hacking though, having no detection ready vs my DTs, making many Lings early vs 2 total Zealots coming his way etc. His actions in your replay are indeed curious, though perhaps not definitive.

If you want to you could perhaps compare his hotkey usage / APM etc in your replay and the one where I just played him. Perhaps there's some interesting differences: http://drop.sc/368957


Well first of all he is absolutely obvious maphacker. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=439205

Second of all, he is terran and he played zerg against you. And he is a maphacker, so you can expect him to be a complete retard. And you should also realise there is a possibility he is not hacking in every single game he plays. He can even tell his friends to cover his ass in this thread.

I hate hackers so much. Blizzard doesn't share my feelings though.

The STONEgolem I played is definitely Zerg, as you can see in the screenshots of his profile below. He only has 16 Terran wins vs 316 Zerg wins in his entire career. Also he has a Zerg icon on the ladder page, which means he played most of his ladder games as Zerg.

+ Show Spoiler [img1] +

[image loading]

+ Show Spoiler [img2] +

[image loading]


Ah yes, you are right.

Well against me he played Terran and he was obvious. Some mentally challenged psycho probably. Hacking on christmas eve.
Bamm
Profile Joined January 2011
Sweden279 Posts
December 26 2013 13:48 GMT
#7624
On December 26 2013 04:57 dani` wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2013 05:06 Bamm wrote:
Name: STONEgolem
Server: EU
League: Master

http://drop.sc/368555

Pretty sure he is a maphacker. @ 14.10 I warp in alot of zealots by edge of my base and he moves where they go before he sees them, doesnt seem too suspicious but then @ 14:58 I send out a warp prism which he doesnt see with his overlord underneath. Then when it comes close to his 5th base he checks the fog of war and then goes with his army to his main before ever seeing it.

I just played that guy. He accused me of maphack so I came to this thread to look at his post and laugh.

Since I don't see a post yet I watched your replay. I have to say those moments you describe are very odd indeed. Purposely changing his path to intercept some Zealots which "happen" to be in that path and moving all his army to his main base after checking fog where a Warp Prism is moving out of his vision are indeed highly suspect.

In the game we just played I doubt he's hacking though, having no detection ready vs my DTs, making many Lings early vs 2 total Zealots coming his way etc. His actions in your replay are indeed curious, though perhaps not definitive.

If you want to you could perhaps compare his hotkey usage / APM etc in your replay and the one where I just played him. Perhaps there's some interesting differences: http://drop.sc/368957


I gotta agree 100% nothing on your replay says he is a hacker, maybe he turned it off?:D
http://drop.sc/368978 - First game I played vs him.
not as obvs as the 2nd one I linked in this thread but makes perfect amount of units exactly when I move out without no xel naga or overlord scout AT THAT TIME, then blindly corruptors which is the ideal response but not completely blind.. ;_;
Bamm and the dirt is gone!
MaFarazZo
Profile Joined January 2013
Sweden16 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-26 20:54:23
December 26 2013 20:54 GMT
#7625
Name: BZT
Server: EU
League: Master
Race: Protoss

Some things just seems lucky, some are quite suspicious and some are obvious.
http://drop.sc/367388
Game Begins quite normally with closespawns, where he directly sends hes overlord to right position, Then i put on some agression and he defends it correctly. @ 9:03 he blindly amoves to my proxy pylon, @ 11:04 He blindly goes forth to attack. my third bas. @12:15 He blindly walks up to take down my long forgotten pheonix along with a proxy pylon. @17:35 blindly intercepts my proxy pylon building probe. @18:36 blind attack against my fourth when it is getting established. @22:40 blindly intercepts a zealot runbuy coming to hes fourth. @23:30 blindly intercepts another zealot runbuy coming another direction to his fourth. Think this guy is a maphacker
MaFarazZo
SpeedyBozar
Profile Joined February 2013
England56 Posts
December 27 2013 03:46 GMT
#7626
Holy shit. I just played ANOTHER maphacker in unranked. Fucking dead game I am telling you. Blizzard just...

http://drop.sc/players/EU/1748740/DoubleG

DoubleG
EU
Diamond
Terran
SpeedyBozar
Profile Joined February 2013
England56 Posts
December 27 2013 04:34 GMT
#7627
HOLY SHIT. I just played ->>>>ANOTHER<<<<- maphacker. It is the same obvious maphacker as I played two days ago on christmas eve.

http://drop.sc/players/EU/297553/STONEgolem
http://drop.sc/369009

STONEgolem
EU
Master
Zerg

BadBorz
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada61 Posts
December 27 2013 06:53 GMT
#7628
rofl those guys stonegolem and schlingue are maphakcing since months and they are mass reported by players who face them, and what? blizzard still didnt ban them. apparently they want sc2 finish like wc3 with almost every player is maphacking. good job blizzard.
Dark.Carnival
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States5095 Posts
December 27 2013 09:12 GMT
#7629
I'll never understand how nerffy and his little posse of idiots never get banned.
@QxGDarkCell ._.
phodacbiet
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1740 Posts
December 27 2013 09:20 GMT
#7630
On December 27 2013 18:12 Dark.Carnival wrote:
I'll never understand how nerffy and his little posse of idiots never get banned.


Because.. Blizzard!
dani`
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands2402 Posts
December 27 2013 09:39 GMT
#7631
On December 27 2013 13:34 SpeedyBozar wrote:
HOLY SHIT. I just played ->>>>ANOTHER<<<<- maphacker. It is the same obvious maphacker as I played two days ago on christmas eve.

http://drop.sc/players/EU/297553/STONEgolem
http://drop.sc/369009

STONEgolem
EU
Master
Zerg


On December 27 2013 12:46 SpeedyBozar wrote:
Holy shit. I just played ANOTHER maphacker in unranked. Fucking dead game I am telling you. Blizzard just...

http://drop.sc/players/EU/1748740/DoubleG

DoubleG
EU
Diamond
Terran

They may or may not hack, but just posting a replay screaming they hack is not really productive. Could you at least provide some timestamps + description of what was suspicious at that point so others can check it as well

Before you get defensive; I'm not saying they do not hack but just posting random replays without any further explanation is kinda silly, I think you'll agree.
SpeedyBozar
Profile Joined February 2013
England56 Posts
December 27 2013 12:03 GMT
#7632
I wish Blizzard was just the developer, nothing else.
SpeedyBozar
Profile Joined February 2013
England56 Posts
December 27 2013 12:11 GMT
#7633
On December 27 2013 18:39 dani` wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 27 2013 13:34 SpeedyBozar wrote:
HOLY SHIT. I just played ->>>>ANOTHER<<<<- maphacker. It is the same obvious maphacker as I played two days ago on christmas eve.

http://drop.sc/players/EU/297553/STONEgolem
http://drop.sc/369009

STONEgolem
EU
Master
Zerg


Show nested quote +
On December 27 2013 12:46 SpeedyBozar wrote:
Holy shit. I just played ANOTHER maphacker in unranked. Fucking dead game I am telling you. Blizzard just...

http://drop.sc/players/EU/1748740/DoubleG

DoubleG
EU
Diamond
Terran

They may or may not hack, but just posting a replay screaming they hack is not really productive. Could you at least provide some timestamps + description of what was suspicious at that point so others can check it as well

Before you get defensive; I'm not saying they do not hack but just posting random replays without any further explanation is kinda silly, I think you'll agree.


There is tone of replays on drop.sc. There is tone of posts in this thread about these two maphackers. I provided undenyable evidence in form of my own replays. I am not gonna waste my time by writing down timestamps of a 7 mins long game. If you are good enough (at least silver) you can see he sends both his initial overlords straight to my base on a 4 player map. He goes 9 pool and when I go pool first, he makes drones. Why the fuck should I write down timestamps? The other guy goes blind 3 CC's without a wall and the second I start massing lings he blindly starts siege tanks and 4 bunkers in his natural. With no scout whatsoever for 10 mins. Then he avoids all my overlords with all of his medivacs so NO, I am not going to write down fucking timestamps. :D
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11490 Posts
December 27 2013 12:45 GMT
#7634
Well, if you are too lazy to look at your own replays, how can you expect others to do that?
SpeedyBozar
Profile Joined February 2013
England56 Posts
December 27 2013 12:58 GMT
#7635
On December 27 2013 21:45 Simberto wrote:
Well, if you are too lazy to look at your own replays, how can you expect others to do that?


To be honest I don't expect other people to look at the replays. It is just in case someone is interested in ensuring about these two hackers. For example if someone says that one of my friends is a hacker I will check the replay.
Wanna-be-cool
Profile Joined June 2007
United States87 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-27 17:45:07
December 27 2013 17:42 GMT
#7636
ALL NA

Name: Wuns Eoni (bar code)
Race: Terran
League: Masters 9th
Points: 1652
WL ratio: 108-81
Replay: http://drop.sc/369037 (I actually won this one but you can tell he's hacking anyways. I can't find the one I've lost to him)

Name: Giyq Eocs (bar codes)
Race: Protoss
League: Grand Master 110th
Points: 1165
WL ratio: 87-54
Replay: http://drop.sc/369038

Name: [WestUS] Nerffy
Race: Terran
League: Master 20th
Points: 1603
WL ratio: 231-197
Replay: http://drop.sc/369039

I hate them so much.
It's not about mechanics and apm. It's about strategy!!
LethoEZBM
Profile Joined December 2013
Vatican City State4 Posts
December 27 2013 17:52 GMT
#7637
On December 27 2013 18:12 Dark.Carnival wrote:
I'll never understand how nerffy and his little posse of idiots never get banned.


Nerffy got no posse
dukem
Profile Joined January 2011
Norway189 Posts
December 27 2013 22:02 GMT
#7638
On December 27 2013 18:12 Dark.Carnival wrote:
I'll never understand how nerffy and his little posse of idiots never get banned.

It pains me to say this, but they are highly valued customers for Blizzard. They do get banned, but not immediately, because they would then just stop buying the game over and over again.
"Flash just accidentally killed grubby lol" - MangoMountain
Kevin_Sorbo
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada3217 Posts
December 27 2013 22:11 GMT
#7639
On December 28 2013 07:02 dukem wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 27 2013 18:12 Dark.Carnival wrote:
I'll never understand how nerffy and his little posse of idiots never get banned.

It pains me to say this, but they are highly valued customers for Blizzard. They do get banned, but not immediately, because they would then just stop buying the game over and over again.



yeah so instead they make sure hundreds of players get their experience ruined and dont buy the next expansion...

right?
The mind is like a parachute, it doesnt work unless its open. - Zappa
KingAlphard
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Italy1705 Posts
December 27 2013 22:17 GMT
#7640
On December 28 2013 07:02 dukem wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 27 2013 18:12 Dark.Carnival wrote:
I'll never understand how nerffy and his little posse of idiots never get banned.

It pains me to say this, but they are highly valued customers for Blizzard. They do get banned, but not immediately, because they would then just stop buying the game over and over again.

Or maybe it would be better for blizzard because then they would buy the game more often.
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