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You have to provide some kind of evidence/proof (screenshots/replays etc.) if you are going to accuse somebody.

Additionally, a supporting comment of what people should be looking for and when will be necessary if you are posting replays/evidence.
nubnubnub
Profile Joined December 2013
1 Post
Last Edited: 2013-12-11 02:01:35
December 11 2013 01:55 GMT
#7581
I am [ViViD]nub. One of my clan members told me about this.

That game was unranked. I've been playing unranked for about 2 months straight to get my last 700+ wins for solo zen master. I have less than 150 wins to go. For every PvZ or PvP win I get from doing cross-map 2gate proxy zlot, I have 2-3 losses from failing because my opponent scouts it with an overlord, paranoid probe, or my opponent simply isn't even in that position. Every one of those games, instead of being messaged being called a hacker, I am messaged with something more like "<3" or "thx!"

"TheAustrian" must think he's Schwarzenegger or something... i.e. brain-damaged. Click my match history for the past 2 months, especially the past 2 weeks. Almost every game is unranked. I clear 100+ games a day, with usually only about half being wins (all of which are cheese for win fishing for solo zen).

Worst accusation ever. I'd never do this in ladder. I'd go 1/5 win/loss ratio if I'm lucky.

Delete please. Ironically, I'm probably one of the most outspoken anti-hack players on NA, which is why I seldom 1v1. I'd rather ask my ex-girlfriend back out than get cheated out of games by cheaters (and I really don't like my ex-girlfriend).

$1,000,000 says if he was one of the dozens of lucky opponents who randomize on horizontally instead of diagonally on the 4-player maps where I send my #6 probe cross-map to begin a proxy where my opponent isn't even at as I immediately F10 + N, he'd be sending me another "<3" for the free win instead of showing up here to upload an unranked dice roll game that went my way out of far more that haven't the past couple weeks.

HINT: TO CHECK IF A GAME IS RANKED OR UNRANKED, CLICK "MATCH HISTORY" TO THE LEFT OF A PLAYER'S PROFILE AND SEE IF POINTS ARE BEING GAINED OR LOST... in which case, I have about 500 games in a row that have 0 points gained or lost... along with the majority of these games being losses... from doing this very thing blindly against a base that isn't even there... I shouldn't even be having to type this right now. Not only do I not map hack, but if I did, I would literally never lose nor gamble on pre-5-minute all in cheese tactics. Get a clue, "TheAustrian". If you lose to all in, dice-rolling cheese, get over it and move on with your life and StarCraft experience. Maybe you should throw in the towel on StarCraft and pick up a cute little FPS on a console nowadays. I hear the PS4s and Xbox1s are pretty nice and have Schwarzenegger-wannabe-like games.

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Prugelhugel
Profile Joined February 2012
Austria637 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-11 09:00:53
December 11 2013 08:58 GMT
#7582
posted in the wrong thread. -.- sorry.
(edit: for those interested, here is my answer to the post above: press me)
"This map definitly needs more rocks" - No SC2 player ever
WonnaPlay
Profile Joined September 2010
Netherlands912 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-12 14:26:42
December 12 2013 14:25 GMT
#7583
Hacker name : Caroline
Profile : http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/4465352/1/Caroline/
Server : EU
League : M
Replay : http://drop.sc/367744
Description :
Does not scout all game long, not even with initial overlords.
Cancels his 3rd after I place my early robo.
7:00 prepares for incoming warp prism harrass, doesn't know a thing about it.
8:20 Moves roaches to zealots at 3rd and has lings + spines ready in main for wp harrass?
Counters double stargate (which he doesn't know) with hydra/infestor from 2 base?
10:30 a-moves all his units directly to my only forward pylon without ever being there.
12:40 moves to 3rd after I just placed it (could be just coincidence this one)
13:00 moves all his units home due to double warp prism (which he hasn't seen).

Overall this guy has never scouted a thing, yet counters every unit combo.
Next to that, this guy is just really really bad aswell and doesn't even hide his maphack/production hack



Fonzy
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany3 Posts
December 13 2013 09:07 GMT
#7584
On December 12 2013 23:25 WonnaPlay wrote:
Hacker name : Caroline
Profile : http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/4465352/1/Caroline/
Server : EU
League : M
Replay : http://drop.sc/367744
Description :
Does not scout all game long, not even with initial overlords.
Cancels his 3rd after I place my early robo.
7:00 prepares for incoming warp prism harrass, doesn't know a thing about it.
8:20 Moves roaches to zealots at 3rd and has lings + spines ready in main for wp harrass?
Counters double stargate (which he doesn't know) with hydra/infestor from 2 base?
10:30 a-moves all his units directly to my only forward pylon without ever being there.
12:40 moves to 3rd after I just placed it (could be just coincidence this one)
13:00 moves all his units home due to double warp prism (which he hasn't seen).

Overall this guy has never scouted a thing, yet counters every unit combo.
Next to that, this guy is just really really bad aswell and doesn't even hide his maphack/production hack





I can confirm this.
Played 3 games ZvZ.
All overlords were send in one corner right from the beginning. No ling scout or holding watchtowers.
Absolutely no mapvision and still never out of position.
DavStarcraft2
Profile Joined November 2011
9 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-13 14:51:45
December 13 2013 14:51 GMT
#7585
Hacker name : JustyLamos
Profile : http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/2150589/1/JustyLamos/
Server : EU
League : Diamond
Replay : http://drop.sc/367800

Description :
- Does not scout all game long.
- He didn't see the bunkers and cancel his immo push.
- 12:36 : He looks at my medivacs (moving) in the fog.
- 12:55 : Prepares for incoming drop (no obs, no scout).
- 14:13 : He looks at my medivacs (moving) in the fog.
- 15:14 : Look my army in the fog, again.
- 15:53 : He looks at my medivacs (moving) in the fog and moves all his units home.
- 17:55 : He looks at my medivacs (moving) in the fog and moves all his units home.
- 24:22 : ... please.

Sorry for my bad english !
Slayers_MMA is my hero
Twine
Profile Joined June 2012
France246 Posts
December 14 2013 08:35 GMT
#7586
On December 12 2013 23:25 WonnaPlay wrote:
Hacker name : Caroline
Profile : http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/4465352/1/Caroline/
Server : EU
League : M
Replay : http://drop.sc/367744
Description :
Does not scout all game long, not even with initial overlords.
Cancels his 3rd after I place my early robo.
7:00 prepares for incoming warp prism harrass, doesn't know a thing about it.
8:20 Moves roaches to zealots at 3rd and has lings + spines ready in main for wp harrass?
Counters double stargate (which he doesn't know) with hydra/infestor from 2 base?
10:30 a-moves all his units directly to my only forward pylon without ever being there.
12:40 moves to 3rd after I just placed it (could be just coincidence this one)
13:00 moves all his units home due to double warp prism (which he hasn't seen).

Overall this guy has never scouted a thing, yet counters every unit combo.
Next to that, this guy is just really really bad aswell and doesn't even hide his maphack/production hack






Me too. He is definitely a hacker, faced him yesterday
#1 Bomber fan | Jin Air best KT
Littlesheep
Profile Joined August 2012
Canada217 Posts
December 14 2013 10:54 GMT
#7587
Hacker name : dirtnasty
Profile : http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/2914951/1/dirtnasty/
http://www.sc2ranks.com/character/us/2914951/dirtnasty/hots/1v1
Server : NA
League : Diamond
Replay : http://drop.sc/367872

Not much to say really, he's not really trying to hide it. I proxygated him and he went for cannons (PvP), he doesn't scout me, abandons the yeonsu cannon spot and opts to wall his ramp with cannons, then walks into my main without scouting and starts laying cannons right near my nexus. He even sneaks a peak at my proxy while he's walling off.

I was confused because this is the first time I've lost to cannons with this build lol, guess theres nothing to be learned from this game though@_@
pro toez
Faust852
Profile Joined February 2012
Luxembourg4004 Posts
December 14 2013 11:20 GMT
#7588
On December 14 2013 17:35 Twine wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2013 23:25 WonnaPlay wrote:
Hacker name : Caroline
Profile : http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/4465352/1/Caroline/
Server : EU
League : M
Replay : http://drop.sc/367744
Description :
Does not scout all game long, not even with initial overlords.
Cancels his 3rd after I place my early robo.
7:00 prepares for incoming warp prism harrass, doesn't know a thing about it.
8:20 Moves roaches to zealots at 3rd and has lings + spines ready in main for wp harrass?
Counters double stargate (which he doesn't know) with hydra/infestor from 2 base?
10:30 a-moves all his units directly to my only forward pylon without ever being there.
12:40 moves to 3rd after I just placed it (could be just coincidence this one)
13:00 moves all his units home due to double warp prism (which he hasn't seen).

Overall this guy has never scouted a thing, yet counters every unit combo.
Next to that, this guy is just really really bad aswell and doesn't even hide his maphack/production hack






Me too. He is definitely a hacker, faced him yesterday


So that's why he did pool 12 gaz 12 when I proxied 888 reaper :D
nbl
Profile Joined December 2013
1 Post
December 14 2013 15:31 GMT
#7589
Hacker name : [uP] miniPIMPPPPǂ
Profile : http://www.sc2ranks.com/character/eu/4067339/miniPIMPPPPǂ/hots/1v1
Server : EU
League : Master
Replay : http://drop.sc/367897

2013-12-14

- Didn't scout at all
- Deflected all-in twice without scouting
- Looked at my zerglings throught fog of war at 07:35 and prepared for the ling+bane bust perfectly (additional cannons, units in position, mothership core back to defend)
- Tried to pretend scouting the third (lack of it), but didn't reach anything to see if it was planted or not
Allsvin Proteus
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada3 Posts
December 15 2013 11:56 GMT
#7590
http://www.sc2ranks.comhttp://www.sc2ranks.com/character/us/4303034/JuGGernaut/hots/1v1/character/us/4303034/JuGGernaut/hots/1v1

just played a pvt with this gentleman -- watched the replay and noticed that he:

a) did not scout at any point with scvs
b) rallied reapers to my location on a four player map
c) appeared to be "looking through the fog of war" at my base before scouting it

I suppose the above could be explained by:

a) wanted to scout with reapers rather than scvs
b) coincidentally chose my location to scout first
c) was fixing rally point for reaper or somesuch

i reported him to blizz anyway, we'll see what happens.
Allsvin Proteus
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada3 Posts
December 15 2013 17:47 GMT
#7591
http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/2058313/1/EatYoVeggies/

admitted using maphack after i played him in a tvp, also displayed all the telltale signs of maphacking

-- looking through fog of war
-- blind countering build order, army movements, etc.
Avean
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Norway449 Posts
December 15 2013 17:55 GMT
#7592
Dont SC2 have any form of detection for this? I mean if you have this many maphackers in GM/Master, imagine how many there are in lower leagues. And there is probably 10x more which aint very obvious with it like looking at fog of war.
Kichirou
Profile Joined March 2012
Japan4 Posts
December 15 2013 20:07 GMT
#7593
Name: VenusProject
League: Daimond
Race: Protoss
Server: Na
Replay: http://drop.sc/368051

Description:
Well not much to explain map frost 4 player map.
Sends his probe to my base half way he queues his pylon in my base without knowing where I spawn.
Continues building 2 gateways still without seeing anything so yeah can't be more obvious ^^
EJK
Profile Blog Joined September 2013
United States1302 Posts
December 15 2013 20:13 GMT
#7594
lol map hacker thread turned awesome and confusing BM thread haha love it
Sc2 Terran Coach, top 16GM NA - interested in coaching? Message me on teamliquid!
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
December 15 2013 20:14 GMT
#7595
On December 07 2013 02:35 Sohel wrote:
NA server:
"Frazwah"
currently gm player


watch the replay and judge yourself
http://drop.sc/367198


Yeah he's an obvious map hacker (played him and on that big map anzi or w/e he proxy 2 gated me in my base, he still lost ). Hope he gets banned soon.
When I think of something else, something will go here
DieTrying
Profile Joined June 2013
Germany2 Posts
December 15 2013 23:58 GMT
#7596
Hacker name HorstFux
Server EU
League Master
Description http://drop.sc/368071
Scouts my scv which is going to build and rax. For normal play way way way too early, rax hasnt even started. watch his vision he just watches where my scv is. he doesnt use shift move to scout multiple location just the one. he sends his drone RIGHT next to my incomming scv so might even have seen the move command through some kind of maphack. AND he has no intention at all to scout my base just the one location im up to build smth. watch it please ande decide urself.
Doodsmack
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7224 Posts
December 16 2013 00:16 GMT
#7597
I'll just add to this thread what I wrote in the NrS boss thread. This is for US account [NrS]ZeroSkill.

Here is my game against ZeroSkill which I think provides the evidence of hacking:

- Zero scouting throughout the game.
- At the start he moves stalker right to my incoming scouting overlord. Not a big deal in itself.
- 8:00 - does not move his DTs to my nat, not even to see if he can get anything done.
- 9:30 - moves his DTs over to his 3rd, and is watching this area right before my lings come in.
- 12:30-12:50 - prepares at his 3rd and moves his camera over there before my banes come in.
- Later he attacks my 4th without having done any scouting, etc.

As of the time of this post, his stream is live and it consists of his webcam view of him playing, with no view of his screen. He looks at the upper left of his screen a lot...production tab?
Theilo
Profile Joined November 2011
Germany26 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-16 23:03:23
December 16 2013 22:59 GMT
#7598
On December 16 2013 08:58 DieTrying wrote:
Hacker name HorstFux
Server EU
League Master
Description http://drop.sc/368071
Scouts my scv which is going to build and rax. For normal play way way way too early, rax hasnt even started. watch his vision he just watches where my scv is. he doesnt use shift move to scout multiple location just the one. he sends his drone RIGHT next to my incomming scv so might even have seen the move command through some kind of maphack. AND he has no intention at all to scout my base just the one location im up to build smth. watch it please ande decide urself.



Hey there, since every Pro Zerg is scouting at10-12supply for proxy around his base, this insult sounds kinda hilarious to me. If you unsult me for maphacking, you insult every good Zerg too, because this is what we do. Since the 10supply scout is not worth to scout his main base (loosing too many minerals too early) i have to scout for proxy rax to denie it in time to place down my hatchery.
(Personal i prefer to attack-move the common proxy locations, this is why i don't shift-click)
I also stream my games, unfortunately this game hasn't been streamed.

-> www.twitch.tv/thyloo
-> If you want, i can show you all my recent Replays, including lot's of scout
"no bird soars too high if he soars with his own wings"
Val_
Profile Joined May 2010
Ukraine156 Posts
December 16 2013 23:10 GMT
#7599
On December 16 2013 05:14 blade55555 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 07 2013 02:35 Sohel wrote:
NA server:
"Frazwah"
currently gm player


watch the replay and judge yourself
http://drop.sc/367198


Yeah he's an obvious map hacker (played him and on that big map anzi or w/e he proxy 2 gated me in my base, he still lost ). Hope he gets banned soon.


yea agree he is mh
blind cheese on 4 player map

but i won him
feel so gosu
XDDDDD

http://drop.sc/368308
AKA [7x]Val / GML Terran EU
miniPIMP
Profile Joined December 2013
Portugal1 Post
December 17 2013 00:04 GMT
#7600
On December 15 2013 00:31 nbl wrote:
Hacker name : [uP] miniPIMPPPPǂ
Profile : http://www.sc2ranks.com/character/eu/4067339/miniPIMPPPPǂ/hots/1v1
Server : EU
League : Master
Replay : http://drop.sc/367897

2013-12-14

- Didn't scout at all
- Deflected all-in twice without scouting
- Looked at my zerglings throught fog of war at 07:35 and prepared for the ling+bane bust perfectly (additional cannons, units in position, mothership core back to defend)
- Tried to pretend scouting the third (lack of it), but didn't reach anything to see if it was planted or not



Thank you NBL for your post.
Keep playing so that you too can see when your enemy is going all in and defend and try to make more macro games because all ins vs Masters its not the same when you do vs diamonds ...

Hug
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