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You have to provide some kind of evidence/proof (screenshots/replays etc.) if you are going to accuse somebody.

Additionally, a supporting comment of what people should be looking for and when will be necessary if you are posting replays/evidence.
NrG.NeverExpo
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada2114 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-13 18:33:36
May 13 2013 18:32 GMT
#5861
Hey guys,

If you play the High Masters protoss player named "Destiny" on NA, he is the hacker known as "Loogicc".

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


I asked for info about him, his PvP record is ridiculous something like 27-5. Anyways at the end of the convo I searched for "loogicc" on TL because thats the aka he gave me and found a bunch of shit on him so I linked him to it and he kinda just laughed. Unfortunately we can't do much about it but unfortunately hes also taking the name of a well known community figure, just icing on the cake :S

This is what I linked him BTW: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/search.php?q=loogicc&t=c&f=-1&u=&gb=date&d=
TwitteR: @NeverExpo follow me, i'll follow back :)
former.Marpro
Profile Joined February 2013
United States30 Posts
May 13 2013 21:55 GMT
#5862
Name : IlIlIIlIIlIl
Server : NA
League : High Master
Race : Zerg
Description :

http://drop.sc/334152
I heard OneTrickPony Say

15:49 [All] OneTrickPony: so do you enjoy hacking?

and he didn't respond back...
I didn't know IlIlIIlIIlIl was hacking until he said it...
(former : Marpro.576 now : lllllIlllIl.235)
ZweiGaming
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada348 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-13 22:40:00
May 13 2013 22:26 GMT
#5863
On May 14 2013 02:55 Fat_Elephant wrote:
I'm curious why this thread is labeled "Gm/Master" hack thread and why only those leagues. Im also curious why others post hackers from other leagues which contradicts its titled. Its confusing. Just change it to all leagues.


Because when I first opened this thread, I did not have time to review a ton of replays, so I decided to focus only on those in higher leagues (that were most likely going to be seen in the daily tournaments, etc). Now that nunez is running it, I believe he said people could post replays from hackers in any league. The title just remained the same, nothing fancy.

On May 13 2013 19:26 Generalul wrote:
I opened a thread about this problem on Blizz's forums, http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/7427314008?page=2 so if we want to see a change, please tell them about it as well, in a constructive manner, hopefully their will realise this is a big problem, not just some isolated incidents or false reports made by people who can't take a loss to a better opponent.

As i said, the maphacking issue became "real" to me just a short time ago, but seeing all the other reports here, especially about people that were never banned and continue to abuse the game, my confidence in a resolution to this is badly shaken. So in the end, no matter what evidence we can provide here, and no matter how fair and detailed the replay analysis is done, if Blizzard doesn't do something about it, it's all for nothing.



I believe there would be a quite simple way for Blizzard to detect the most obvious hackers. As we all know, sc2gears generate an "anomaly" when someone uses the hack for an automated action. Some actions will be labeled in the same frame rate, which would be impossible to reproduce in a legit way. When that occurs, we can simply assume the guy was using a third party program. Let's say that Blizzard decides to save every ladder replay on their own database and run the replays into something similar to sc2gears that would automatically detect those anomalies, they'd be able to eliminate a small fraction of the obvious hackers (which would be a great start). I'm nowhere near a programmer, but I believe this wouldn't be too hard to accomplish. I would have posted it on battle net website, but I do not have an account on EU, therefore cannot post in your thread.

Example of autoproduction (can be done for blink-hack, auto-inject, etc):
[image loading]
FabledIntegral
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States9232 Posts
May 14 2013 00:47 GMT
#5864
On May 14 2013 06:55 former.Marpro wrote:
Name : IlIlIIlIIlIl
Server : NA
League : High Master
Race : Zerg
Description :

http://drop.sc/334152
I heard OneTrickPony Say

15:49 [All] OneTrickPony: so do you enjoy hacking?

and he didn't respond back...
I didn't know IlIlIIlIIlIl was hacking until he said it...


Did you analyze the replay at all...?
volta1
Profile Joined May 2013
13 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-14 13:16:04
May 14 2013 04:03 GMT
#5865
Hi all, sorry if this isn't the right place, I'm new here.
This guy was ranked GM at one point in his career: Rchemistry.

http://drop.sc/334428

3v3 game, which my team won. I saved the replay because I noticed he was GM (and he had a very effective drop style which I wanted to copy).

I watched from his perspective. At 5:52 he clicks my base, then the position on the map where my army was, without any vision whatsoever. To me, this seems maphackish. Do you agree?

He proceeds to scroll around my base with his camera, in fog of war, before spamming a location to drop at around 8:50.

As far as I can tell, he doesn't click any units in fog, but he does seem to have his screen focused there at opportune times.

I apologize in advance if this reply/forum is not appropriate for reporting such things. But since I'm a new member, I can't start my own threads.

Name : Rchemsitry
Server : NA
League : Master (former grandmaster)
Race : Terran
Description : Clicks into fog of war at 5:52 and 8:50 to look at base/army
oOOoOphidian
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1402 Posts
May 14 2013 05:55 GMT
#5866
On May 14 2013 06:55 former.Marpro wrote:
Name : IlIlIIlIIlIl
Server : NA
League : High Master
Race : Zerg
Description :

http://drop.sc/334152
I heard OneTrickPony Say

15:49 [All] OneTrickPony: so do you enjoy hacking?

and he didn't respond back...
I didn't know IlIlIIlIIlIl was hacking until he said it...

That barcode is aka microjackson (check page 1)
Creator of sc2unmasked.com
Popiel
Profile Joined August 2012
Poland5 Posts
May 14 2013 09:16 GMT
#5867
Hi!

"My" maphacker (description on page 291) is still active.
Name: lOl
Server : EU
League : Diamond (quick progress from gold, win ratio for today 15:4)
Race : Protoss
Description :

http://ggtracker.com/matches/3098014
http://ggtracker.com/matches/3098014/replay
Specialist
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States803 Posts
May 14 2013 09:33 GMT
#5868

Hacker name: XxDroidxX
Server: NA
League: Masters
Description: obvious hacker lol

User was warned for this post
Cokefreak
Profile Joined June 2011
Finland8095 Posts
May 14 2013 09:34 GMT
#5869
Post a replay lol
volta1
Profile Joined May 2013
13 Posts
May 14 2013 14:49 GMT
#5870
So, what's the process for confirming whether or not someone is a hacker?
I posted a replay and some info above - who makes the verdict?

I wanna get that mofo on the OP for being a cheating scum.
nunez
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Norway4003 Posts
May 14 2013 15:28 GMT
#5871
On May 14 2013 23:49 volta1 wrote:
So, what's the process for confirming whether or not someone is a hacker?
I posted a replay and some info above - who makes the verdict?

I wanna get that mofo on the OP for being a cheating scum.


busy with exams atm. don't hold your breath.
conspired against by a confederacy of dunces.
Armore
Profile Joined July 2012
Finland6 Posts
May 14 2013 16:10 GMT
#5872
Hacker name: cARTMaN
Server: EU
League: Diamond
Description: Obvious maphack. Looks at my base at the start of the game, then proceeds to proxy 2-gate me without scouting on Zerus Prime, and finally builds a pylon in my wall-off without knowing on which side there is no depo.

Replay: http://drop.sc/334696
Battlenet: http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/223769/1/cARTMaN/

Didn't even gg :<
Without effort, don't expect results.
KirA_TheGreaT
Profile Joined April 2011
France204 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-14 17:10:24
May 14 2013 16:56 GMT
#5873
Hacker name : IIIIIIIIIIII
League : Master
server : EU
bnet profile : http://eu.battle.net/sc2/fr/profile/2001310/1/IlIlIlIlIlIl/
SC2 profile : starcraft://profile/2/10458086224336781312
replay : http://drop.sc/334704

double blind hatch before pool against CC first
No scout during the entire game

@14:54 : Send his mutas on random units i forgot to bind, he aims for them, not for my third.
@16:49 : has his camera on mutas which are under attack, meanwhile my drop appears on his minimap 0,5 second then disappears, he instantly look at the spot my drop appears. Maybe he has insane reflexes or pure luck, or he actually sees the drop through fog of war
@17:40 : attacks my army without seeing it
@26:30 : he is heading through my fourth base, but then go back to try flanking my army he doesn't even see.
nunez
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Norway4003 Posts
May 14 2013 16:58 GMT
#5874
On May 15 2013 01:56 KirA_TheGreaT wrote:
Hacker name : dddjajaj ouadjazu fhjai pdh


currently editing


added to list.
conspired against by a confederacy of dunces.
KirA_TheGreaT
Profile Joined April 2011
France204 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-14 17:06:30
May 14 2013 17:05 GMT
#5875
i put the sc2 profile and the bnet profile but isn't sc2 profile sufficient ?
2v2levels
Profile Joined December 2012
United States88 Posts
May 14 2013 17:21 GMT
#5876
On May 14 2013 07:26 ZweiGaming wrote:
I believe there would be a quite simple way for Blizzard to detect the most obvious hackers. As we all know, sc2gears generate an "anomaly" when someone uses the hack for an automated action. Some actions will be labeled in the same frame rate, which would be impossible to reproduce in a legit way. When that occurs, we can simply assume the guy was using a third party program. Let's say that Blizzard decides to save every ladder replay on their own database and run the replays into something similar to sc2gears that would automatically detect those anomalies, they'd be able to eliminate a small fraction of the obvious hackers (which would be a great start). I'm nowhere near a programmer, but I believe this wouldn't be too hard to accomplish. I would have posted it on battle net website, but I do not have an account on EU, therefore cannot post in your thread.

Example of autoproduction (can be done for blink-hack, auto-inject, etc):
[image loading]


The problem with programs like that is the possibility of a false positive due to lag.

I used BWHF when I played BW, a program that operated on this same premise, and it reported me a few times for splitting all my scvs during an initial lag spike.
A jack of all trades is a master of none.
MistSC2
Profile Joined February 2012
Sweden583 Posts
May 14 2013 18:33 GMT
#5877
Hacker name: Fraser
Server:NA
League: High Master
Description: He proxy 2 gated me on whirlwind.


http://drop.sc/334722
Maru, TY, Clem <3
playa
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States1284 Posts
May 14 2013 20:20 GMT
#5878
On May 15 2013 03:33 prOxySC2 wrote:
Hacker name: Fraser
Server:NA
League: High Master
Description: He proxy 2 gated me on whirlwind.


http://drop.sc/334722


I was just going to ask for people to post replays of this guy, because I swear to god this 0 apm player is suspicious as fuck. No legit players play like him. His play makes 0 sense if he is legit. Thank god someone seems to have solid proof.
Mekar
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden8 Posts
May 14 2013 20:58 GMT
#5879
On May 14 2013 18:33 SpecialistSc wrote:

Hacker name: XxDroidxX
Server: NA
League: Masters
Description: obvious hacker lol

User was warned for this post



Yeah, this XxDroidxX guy is suspicious to say the least. I'll post one of my replays.

Replay: http://drop.sc/334743
Hacker name: XxDroidxX
Server: NA
League: Masters

Description: Watching through his view his camera seems stuck in place at weird locations most of the time, this may or may not have to do with cheating. Around the 3 minute mark his camera twitches to my proxy location through the fog of war, shortly thereafter he sends a marine straight to it (big tell!). After realizing he will kill the stargate in time he doesn't start building a missile turret ( this is no hacking thing), but the moment I start an oracle at a fresh stargate in my main 4 blind missile turrets appear in his main and natural. He still hasn't scouted at all by this point. At 9:18 his camera, which has been locked the last minute, twitches to a really weird spot and at 9:50 his marine marauder force move out straight towards my third that he has not seen. He still hasnt scouted at all. I see him coming with vision from a xel'naga tower, cancel third, and he instantly changes direction, still not having gained vision of the third before or after cancel. Around the 13 minute mark he moves to my third at an unusual location, still not having scouted anything,

At 14:00 he picks up units in two medivacs that are not in his camera view.
He still hasn't seen anything of my army, natural or main.
Nyast
Profile Joined November 2010
Belgium554 Posts
May 14 2013 22:20 GMT
#5880
On May 15 2013 05:58 Mekar wrote:
Yeah, this XxDroidxX guy is suspicious to say the least. I'll post one of my replays.


If I remember well he was already reported and confirmed a few pages ago.

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