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Hey guys,
If you play the High Masters protoss player named "Destiny" on NA, he is the hacker known as "Loogicc".
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I asked for info about him, his PvP record is ridiculous something like 27-5. Anyways at the end of the convo I searched for "loogicc" on TL because thats the aka he gave me and found a bunch of shit on him so I linked him to it and he kinda just laughed. Unfortunately we can't do much about it but unfortunately hes also taking the name of a well known community figure, just icing on the cake :S
This is what I linked him BTW: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/search.php?q=loogicc&t=c&f=-1&u=&gb=date&d=
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Name : IlIlIIlIIlIl Server : NA League : High Master Race : Zerg Description :
http://drop.sc/334152 I heard OneTrickPony Say
15:49 [All] OneTrickPony: so do you enjoy hacking?
and he didn't respond back... I didn't know IlIlIIlIIlIl was hacking until he said it...
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On May 14 2013 02:55 Fat_Elephant wrote: I'm curious why this thread is labeled "Gm/Master" hack thread and why only those leagues. Im also curious why others post hackers from other leagues which contradicts its titled. Its confusing. Just change it to all leagues.
Because when I first opened this thread, I did not have time to review a ton of replays, so I decided to focus only on those in higher leagues (that were most likely going to be seen in the daily tournaments, etc). Now that nunez is running it, I believe he said people could post replays from hackers in any league. The title just remained the same, nothing fancy.
On May 13 2013 19:26 Generalul wrote:I opened a thread about this problem on Blizz's forums, http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/7427314008?page=2 so if we want to see a change, please tell them about it as well, in a constructive manner, hopefully their will realise this is a big problem, not just some isolated incidents or false reports made by people who can't take a loss to a better opponent. As i said, the maphacking issue became "real" to me just a short time ago, but seeing all the other reports here, especially about people that were never banned and continue to abuse the game, my confidence in a resolution to this is badly shaken. So in the end, no matter what evidence we can provide here, and no matter how fair and detailed the replay analysis is done, if Blizzard doesn't do something about it, it's all for nothing.
I believe there would be a quite simple way for Blizzard to detect the most obvious hackers. As we all know, sc2gears generate an "anomaly" when someone uses the hack for an automated action. Some actions will be labeled in the same frame rate, which would be impossible to reproduce in a legit way. When that occurs, we can simply assume the guy was using a third party program. Let's say that Blizzard decides to save every ladder replay on their own database and run the replays into something similar to sc2gears that would automatically detect those anomalies, they'd be able to eliminate a small fraction of the obvious hackers (which would be a great start). I'm nowhere near a programmer, but I believe this wouldn't be too hard to accomplish. I would have posted it on battle net website, but I do not have an account on EU, therefore cannot post in your thread.
Example of autoproduction (can be done for blink-hack, auto-inject, etc):
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On May 14 2013 06:55 former.Marpro wrote:Name : IlIlIIlIIlIl Server : NA League : High Master Race : Zerg Description : http://drop.sc/334152I heard OneTrickPony Say 15:49 [All] OneTrickPony: so do you enjoy hacking? and he didn't respond back... I didn't know IlIlIIlIIlIl was hacking until he said it...
Did you analyze the replay at all...?
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Hi all, sorry if this isn't the right place, I'm new here. This guy was ranked GM at one point in his career: Rchemistry.
http://drop.sc/334428
3v3 game, which my team won. I saved the replay because I noticed he was GM (and he had a very effective drop style which I wanted to copy).
I watched from his perspective. At 5:52 he clicks my base, then the position on the map where my army was, without any vision whatsoever. To me, this seems maphackish. Do you agree?
He proceeds to scroll around my base with his camera, in fog of war, before spamming a location to drop at around 8:50.
As far as I can tell, he doesn't click any units in fog, but he does seem to have his screen focused there at opportune times.
I apologize in advance if this reply/forum is not appropriate for reporting such things. But since I'm a new member, I can't start my own threads.
Name : Rchemsitry Server : NA League : Master (former grandmaster) Race : Terran Description : Clicks into fog of war at 5:52 and 8:50 to look at base/army
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On May 14 2013 06:55 former.Marpro wrote:Name : IlIlIIlIIlIl Server : NA League : High Master Race : Zerg Description : http://drop.sc/334152I heard OneTrickPony Say 15:49 [All] OneTrickPony: so do you enjoy hacking? and he didn't respond back... I didn't know IlIlIIlIIlIl was hacking until he said it... That barcode is aka microjackson (check page 1)
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Hacker name: XxDroidxX Server: NA League: Masters Description: obvious hacker lol
User was warned for this post
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So, what's the process for confirming whether or not someone is a hacker? I posted a replay and some info above - who makes the verdict?
I wanna get that mofo on the OP for being a cheating scum.
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On May 14 2013 23:49 volta1 wrote: So, what's the process for confirming whether or not someone is a hacker? I posted a replay and some info above - who makes the verdict?
I wanna get that mofo on the OP for being a cheating scum.
busy with exams atm. don't hold your breath.
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Hacker name: cARTMaN Server: EU League: Diamond Description: Obvious maphack. Looks at my base at the start of the game, then proceeds to proxy 2-gate me without scouting on Zerus Prime, and finally builds a pylon in my wall-off without knowing on which side there is no depo.
Replay: http://drop.sc/334696 Battlenet: http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/223769/1/cARTMaN/
Didn't even gg :<
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Hacker name : IIIIIIIIIIII League : Master server : EU bnet profile : http://eu.battle.net/sc2/fr/profile/2001310/1/IlIlIlIlIlIl/ SC2 profile : starcraft://profile/2/10458086224336781312 replay : http://drop.sc/334704
double blind hatch before pool against CC first No scout during the entire game
@14:54 : Send his mutas on random units i forgot to bind, he aims for them, not for my third. @16:49 : has his camera on mutas which are under attack, meanwhile my drop appears on his minimap 0,5 second then disappears, he instantly look at the spot my drop appears. Maybe he has insane reflexes or pure luck, or he actually sees the drop through fog of war @17:40 : attacks my army without seeing it @26:30 : he is heading through my fourth base, but then go back to try flanking my army he doesn't even see.
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On May 15 2013 01:56 KirA_TheGreaT wrote: Hacker name : dddjajaj ouadjazu fhjai pdh
currently editing
added to list.
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i put the sc2 profile and the bnet profile but isn't sc2 profile sufficient ?
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On May 14 2013 07:26 ZweiGaming wrote:I believe there would be a quite simple way for Blizzard to detect the most obvious hackers. As we all know, sc2gears generate an "anomaly" when someone uses the hack for an automated action. Some actions will be labeled in the same frame rate, which would be impossible to reproduce in a legit way. When that occurs, we can simply assume the guy was using a third party program. Let's say that Blizzard decides to save every ladder replay on their own database and run the replays into something similar to sc2gears that would automatically detect those anomalies, they'd be able to eliminate a small fraction of the obvious hackers (which would be a great start). I'm nowhere near a programmer, but I believe this wouldn't be too hard to accomplish. I would have posted it on battle net website, but I do not have an account on EU, therefore cannot post in your thread. Example of autoproduction (can be done for blink-hack, auto-inject, etc):
The problem with programs like that is the possibility of a false positive due to lag.
I used BWHF when I played BW, a program that operated on this same premise, and it reported me a few times for splitting all my scvs during an initial lag spike.
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Hacker name: Fraser Server:NA League: High Master Description: He proxy 2 gated me on whirlwind.
http://drop.sc/334722
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On May 15 2013 03:33 prOxySC2 wrote: Hacker name: Fraser Server:NA League: High Master Description: He proxy 2 gated me on whirlwind. http://drop.sc/334722
I was just going to ask for people to post replays of this guy, because I swear to god this 0 apm player is suspicious as fuck. No legit players play like him. His play makes 0 sense if he is legit. Thank god someone seems to have solid proof.
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On May 14 2013 18:33 SpecialistSc wrote:
Hacker name: XxDroidxX Server: NA League: Masters Description: obvious hacker lol
User was warned for this post
Yeah, this XxDroidxX guy is suspicious to say the least. I'll post one of my replays.
Replay: http://drop.sc/334743 Hacker name: XxDroidxX Server: NA League: Masters
Description: Watching through his view his camera seems stuck in place at weird locations most of the time, this may or may not have to do with cheating. Around the 3 minute mark his camera twitches to my proxy location through the fog of war, shortly thereafter he sends a marine straight to it (big tell!). After realizing he will kill the stargate in time he doesn't start building a missile turret ( this is no hacking thing), but the moment I start an oracle at a fresh stargate in my main 4 blind missile turrets appear in his main and natural. He still hasn't scouted at all by this point. At 9:18 his camera, which has been locked the last minute, twitches to a really weird spot and at 9:50 his marine marauder force move out straight towards my third that he has not seen. He still hasnt scouted at all. I see him coming with vision from a xel'naga tower, cancel third, and he instantly changes direction, still not having gained vision of the third before or after cancel. Around the 13 minute mark he moves to my third at an unusual location, still not having scouted anything,
At 14:00 he picks up units in two medivacs that are not in his camera view. He still hasn't seen anything of my army, natural or main.
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On May 15 2013 05:58 Mekar wrote: Yeah, this XxDroidxX guy is suspicious to say the least. I'll post one of my replays.
If I remember well he was already reported and confirmed a few pages ago.
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