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You have to provide some kind of evidence/proof (screenshots/replays etc.) if you are going to accuse somebody.

Additionally, a supporting comment of what people should be looking for and when will be necessary if you are posting replays/evidence.
Grimmyman123
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada939 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-20 06:41:46
January 20 2013 06:32 GMT
#4481
My submission, not GM or masters though, but wanted opinion. Really fishy behavior. Its from a custom warp up game.

replay: http://drop.sc/296865
Player name: NietzSChe
League: Gold
Profile: http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/442250/2/NietzSChe/

16:46 Looks through fog at watchtower zealot
23:57 A moves zealots to where an observer is located
30:27 Looks through fog of war
36:04 Places Cannons at his 3rd the second after DT's warped in
35:55 sends zealots blind to unscouted 4th base.

Odd thing, allows drops, his base getting sniped etc. A crappy hacker? The zealot A-move to an observer is what has me interested.
Win. That's all that matters. Win. Nobody likes to lose.
city42
Profile Joined October 2007
1656 Posts
January 20 2013 06:34 GMT
#4482
I can upload a bunch of isuruscham replays if anyone wants to check them. I don't remember anything suspicious about him, though.

Also it's hilarious seeing crbox complaining about random hostility. That guy practically foams at the mouth on ladder!
Grimmyman123
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada939 Posts
January 20 2013 06:37 GMT
#4483
If you don't mind uploading a few that would be great.
Thing is, while he admits to hacking, he only admits to it having been done on a different account. That is enough proof for us, but that is not enough for Blizz for this exact account. To get a replay would be icing on the cake.
Win. That's all that matters. Win. Nobody likes to lose.
terriBean
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada75 Posts
January 20 2013 06:55 GMT
#4484
On January 20 2013 15:32 Grimmyman123 wrote:
My submission, not GM or masters though, but wanted opinion. Really fishy behavior. Its from a custom warp up game.

replay: http://drop.sc/296865
Player name: NietzSChe
League: Gold
Profile: http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/442250/2/NietzSChe/

16:46 Looks through fog at watchtower zealot
23:57 A moves zealots to where an observer is located
30:27 Looks through fog of war
36:04 Places Cannons at his 3rd the second after DT's warped in
35:55 sends zealots blind to unscouted 4th base.

Odd thing, allows drops, his base getting sniped etc. A crappy hacker? The zealot A-move to an observer is what has me interested.


Blindly sending zealots to an unscouted base isn't uncommon, that's hardly evidence on it's on. And why would someone a-move zealots to an observer? Zealots can't shoot them anyway -__-
city42
Profile Joined October 2007
1656 Posts
January 20 2013 06:57 GMT
#4485
On January 20 2013 15:37 Grimmyman123 wrote:
If you don't mind uploading a few that would be great.
Thing is, while he admits to hacking, he only admits to it having been done on a different account. That is enough proof for us, but that is not enough for Blizz for this exact account. To get a replay would be icing on the cake.

drop.sc won't let me upload a pack without signing up for some premium service, so I uploaded it here.
dustCham
Profile Joined July 2012
Mexico4 Posts
January 20 2013 07:13 GMT
#4486
Hi everyone im cham. and i wan't to clarify that this whole misunderstanding. i know that the barcode its kane and he accused me of haking before, i was simply feeding his theory against me. i do not hack and i ll post all me replays if you guys wan't to.and i ll stream in a month soo you guys can see im not hacking. and i have participed in lans and i show good level of skill in them. My english is not good so my sarcasm was not undestood. he thought i was being serious
Cham
dustCham
Profile Joined July 2012
Mexico4 Posts
January 20 2013 07:35 GMT
#4487
Here are my recent games If you guys want I can post even more replays. Sorry for my bad english.
http://drop.sc/296879
http://drop.sc/296878
http://drop.sc/296877
http://drop.sc/296871
http://drop.sc/296889
http://drop.sc/296876
http://drop.sc/296875
http://drop.sc/296884
http://drop.sc/296889
http://drop.sc/296876
http://drop.sc/296875
http://drop.sc/296874
http://drop.sc/296873
http://drop.sc/296872
http://drop.sc/296886
http://drop.sc/296885
http://drop.sc/296884
http://drop.sc/296883
http://drop.sc/296882
http://drop.sc/296880
http://drop.sc/296842
http://drop.sc/296843
http://drop.sc/296844
http://drop.sc/296845
Cham
dustCham
Profile Joined July 2012
Mexico4 Posts
January 20 2013 07:39 GMT
#4488
If you guys go to http://sc2mx.com/forums/showthread.php?4425-isurusCham-admite-Maphack&p=32545#post32545 they have seen me play live and are defending my skill level.
Cham
crbox
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada1180 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-20 08:09:25
January 20 2013 07:59 GMT
#4489
I didn't see the game (the most recent one from the CW), but I've been told by observers that it seemed like he didn't hack and I trust those people.
On the other hand, even if he didn't hack in this game, I think it shows lack of sportsmanship to use a previous hacker in a CW, especially when the said player admitted to hacking.

@Grimmmyman123 s'all good man

edit : Didn't see Cham's statement.

I won't go after you and watch every single replay you upload, but tbh you have been confirmed by nunez so I have to say it's pretty suspicious. Until you're off that list it would feel really wrong if you played in CWs again.
If I would've been online tonight, you can be sure you wouldn't have played in this CW, and it seems like your team wasn't even aware of this.
When I claimed you were an hacker in the chat lobby, and I saw your name there 100% positive, when you got out of your game you quickly dodged me and left the lobby, and didn't respond to my PM.
There's something fishy going on there and if you do hack, at least just keep it for the fucking ladder, and don't bother coming to Clan Wars, you're just ruining your name to be honest, it's not a good move.

Anyways I'm out for the night it's 3:00 AM here~

edit2 : okay just before leaving Cham, uploading replays where you don't hack doesn't prove anything, you could've turned it off for a few games, it's not relevant. I hope you guys figure it out.
EtherealDeath
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States8366 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-20 08:19:17
January 20 2013 08:19 GMT
#4490
For the record, and I don't have these replays anymore cause they were from a while back (around the time of the original Kane vs Cham replay about ~7 months ago), but anyways, he tried shit on me ZvP that absolutely did not fly against what I was doing, and as a result lost horribly. So I never thought he hacked back then. And tbh we don't have any solid evidence except his "admission".
Grimmyman123
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada939 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-20 08:54:02
January 20 2013 08:52 GMT
#4491
On January 20 2013 17:19 EtherealDeath wrote:
For the record, and I don't have these replays anymore cause they were from a while back (around the time of the original Kane vs Cham replay about ~7 months ago), but anyways, he tried shit on me ZvP that absolutely did not fly against what I was doing, and as a result lost horribly. So I never thought he hacked back then. And tbh we don't have any solid evidence except his "admission".


Precisely, as I have noted before, we only have his "admission" Nothing concrete so far. I am still reviewing replays.... going to be a while.

I've got through 6 replays so far, a fair bit of circumstantial stuff so far.
Win. That's all that matters. Win. Nobody likes to lose.
nunez
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Norway4003 Posts
January 20 2013 09:19 GMT
#4492
i'm not saying cham hacks now or at the point the replay was played and posting replays is all nice and well, however the issue at hand is the admission. an admission seems to me as good as evidence as any to put somebodys name on the list.

if cham wants to come clean and provide the timeframe he was hacking in it could be added to the listing.
this seems somewhat contentious so i'll remove the post for now.

i do not think you can play this off as sarcasm though, you can maybe plead stupidity, but it seems pretty farfetched.

00:55 [All] IIIlllIIIIll: yes LOL it was really obvious
01:08 [All] Cham: ye ye i used to hack
01:10 [All] Cham: TT
01:13 [All] Cham: i was to chobo
01:19 [All] IIIlllIIIIll: "used to"
01:33 [All] Cham: but
01:37 [All] Cham: i never hack on this acc
01:39 [All] Cham: i don't remember
01:44 [All] IIIlllIIIIll: mhm
01:45 [All] Cham: the hack
01:47 [All] Cham: doesn't work now
01:48 [All] Cham: :D
conspired against by a confederacy of dunces.
HpplVgn
Profile Joined December 2012
27 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-20 14:40:00
January 20 2013 14:39 GMT
#4493
Name shithappens
Server EU
League Master
Just watch, he counters every move I make , doesnt scout and esp the move where he goes into his own main as I get a warp prism.

http://drop.sc/296936
crbox
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada1180 Posts
January 20 2013 15:33 GMT
#4494
On January 20 2013 18:19 nunez wrote:
i'm not saying cham hacks now or at the point the replay was played and posting replays is all nice and well, however the issue at hand is the admission. an admission seems to me as good as evidence as any to put somebodys name on the list.

if cham wants to come clean and provide the timeframe he was hacking in it could be added to the listing.
this seems somewhat contentious so i'll remove the post for now.

i do not think you can play this off as sarcasm though, you can maybe plead stupidity, but it seems pretty farfetched.

00:55 [All] IIIlllIIIIll: yes LOL it was really obvious
01:08 [All] Cham: ye ye i used to hack
01:10 [All] Cham: TT
01:13 [All] Cham: i was to chobo
01:19 [All] IIIlllIIIIll: "used to"
01:33 [All] Cham: but
01:37 [All] Cham: i never hack on this acc
01:39 [All] Cham: i don't remember
01:44 [All] IIIlllIIIIll: mhm
01:45 [All] Cham: the hack
01:47 [All] Cham: doesn't work now
01:48 [All] Cham: :D


Yes this is most definitely not sarcasm and if he knows the hack doesn't work anymore he probably tried to turn it on at some point -.-
AinReNZz
Profile Joined March 2011
Mexico1 Post
Last Edited: 2013-01-20 18:36:24
January 20 2013 18:12 GMT
#4495
[url blocked] a Classic MEME, but this is in spanish :/
Player from Mex!
( bush
Profile Joined April 2011
321 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-20 18:34:33
January 20 2013 18:29 GMT
#4496
On January 21 2013 03:12 AinReNZz wrote:
[url blocked] a Classic MEME, but this is in spanish :/


rofl, thats pure gold

just like this
http://i.imgur.com/VIg3Y.jpg
oo
BigBadBeaver
Profile Joined August 2009
Canada272 Posts
January 20 2013 20:53 GMT
#4497
On January 20 2013 12:36 Grimmyman123 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2013 08:51 BigBadBeaver wrote:
Hacker Name: llIIlllIlllI (not sure how to get b.net profile, I hate these barcodes so much)
Server: NA
League: Masters
Description: http://drop.sc/296770
Sends a probe straight to my third on entombed to plant pylon for gateway push; doesn't bother scouting on 4 player map. I think it's pretty obvious.


Player name: llIIlllIlllI
Profile: http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/3064933/1/llIIlllIlllI/

Thank you for your replay.

No evidence of hacking present. Scouting probe has rally points set, but probe wanders into Terrans 3rd because of terran wall off at ramp (Bad pathing). Protoss player can determine that wall off occured at this location and as such, the locaiton of the terran opponent. A lack of any other scouting however is suspect, but only this. No hacking present in this replay.

And yes, on Entombed, there is no close by ground (horizontal) spawn locations. Only vertical and cross.

Fair enough. Apologies to mr. barcode
RemarK
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States452 Posts
January 20 2013 23:57 GMT
#4498
On January 20 2013 18:19 nunez wrote:
i'm not saying cham hacks now or at the point the replay was played and posting replays is all nice and well, however the issue at hand is the admission. an admission seems to me as good as evidence as any to put somebodys name on the list.

if cham wants to come clean and provide the timeframe he was hacking in it could be added to the listing.
this seems somewhat contentious so i'll remove the post for now.

i do not think you can play this off as sarcasm though, you can maybe plead stupidity, but it seems pretty farfetched.

00:55 [All] IIIlllIIIIll: yes LOL it was really obvious
01:08 [All] Cham: ye ye i used to hack
01:10 [All] Cham: TT
01:13 [All] Cham: i was to chobo
01:19 [All] IIIlllIIIIll: "used to"
01:33 [All] Cham: but
01:37 [All] Cham: i never hack on this acc
01:39 [All] Cham: i don't remember
01:44 [All] IIIlllIIIIll: mhm
01:45 [All] Cham: the hack
01:47 [All] Cham: doesn't work now
01:48 [All] Cham: :D


It could be sarcasm / joking around. A lot of time when people accuse me of maphacking I'll just go along with it cuz I think it's a pretty idiotic accusation to make after / during a single game.

Regarding Cham, I've beaten him with a variety of stuff that wouldn't work against a hacker so I don't think he hacks now, if he ever did~
I <3 StarCraft.
mcleod
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada350 Posts
January 21 2013 00:52 GMT
#4499
HOTS Beta

Trance - Grandmaster Protoss

http://drop.sc/297140

Eggi
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
478 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-21 01:00:08
January 21 2013 00:59 GMT
#4500
I cant play anywhere without getting hacked
NA... hots..

T_T_T_T_T_T
blizzard
i have ladder anxiety now because of hackers I just play enough games to run my BP to keep GM
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