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You have to provide some kind of evidence/proof (screenshots/replays etc.) if you are going to accuse somebody.
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My submission, not GM or masters though, but wanted opinion. Really fishy behavior. Its from a custom warp up game.
replay: http://drop.sc/296865 Player name: NietzSChe League: Gold Profile: http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/442250/2/NietzSChe/
16:46 Looks through fog at watchtower zealot 23:57 A moves zealots to where an observer is located 30:27 Looks through fog of war 36:04 Places Cannons at his 3rd the second after DT's warped in 35:55 sends zealots blind to unscouted 4th base.
Odd thing, allows drops, his base getting sniped etc. A crappy hacker? The zealot A-move to an observer is what has me interested.
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I can upload a bunch of isuruscham replays if anyone wants to check them. I don't remember anything suspicious about him, though.
Also it's hilarious seeing crbox complaining about random hostility. That guy practically foams at the mouth on ladder!
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If you don't mind uploading a few that would be great. Thing is, while he admits to hacking, he only admits to it having been done on a different account. That is enough proof for us, but that is not enough for Blizz for this exact account. To get a replay would be icing on the cake.
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On January 20 2013 15:32 Grimmyman123 wrote:My submission, not GM or masters though, but wanted opinion. Really fishy behavior. Its from a custom warp up game. replay: http://drop.sc/296865Player name: NietzSChe League: Gold Profile: http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/442250/2/NietzSChe/16:46 Looks through fog at watchtower zealot 23:57 A moves zealots to where an observer is located 30:27 Looks through fog of war 36:04 Places Cannons at his 3rd the second after DT's warped in 35:55 sends zealots blind to unscouted 4th base. Odd thing, allows drops, his base getting sniped etc. A crappy hacker? The zealot A-move to an observer is what has me interested.
Blindly sending zealots to an unscouted base isn't uncommon, that's hardly evidence on it's on. And why would someone a-move zealots to an observer? Zealots can't shoot them anyway -__-
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On January 20 2013 15:37 Grimmyman123 wrote: If you don't mind uploading a few that would be great. Thing is, while he admits to hacking, he only admits to it having been done on a different account. That is enough proof for us, but that is not enough for Blizz for this exact account. To get a replay would be icing on the cake. drop.sc won't let me upload a pack without signing up for some premium service, so I uploaded it here.
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Hi everyone im cham. and i wan't to clarify that this whole misunderstanding. i know that the barcode its kane and he accused me of haking before, i was simply feeding his theory against me. i do not hack and i ll post all me replays if you guys wan't to.and i ll stream in a month soo you guys can see im not hacking. and i have participed in lans and i show good level of skill in them. My english is not good so my sarcasm was not undestood. he thought i was being serious
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I didn't see the game (the most recent one from the CW), but I've been told by observers that it seemed like he didn't hack and I trust those people. On the other hand, even if he didn't hack in this game, I think it shows lack of sportsmanship to use a previous hacker in a CW, especially when the said player admitted to hacking.
@Grimmmyman123 s'all good man
edit : Didn't see Cham's statement.
I won't go after you and watch every single replay you upload, but tbh you have been confirmed by nunez so I have to say it's pretty suspicious. Until you're off that list it would feel really wrong if you played in CWs again. If I would've been online tonight, you can be sure you wouldn't have played in this CW, and it seems like your team wasn't even aware of this. When I claimed you were an hacker in the chat lobby, and I saw your name there 100% positive, when you got out of your game you quickly dodged me and left the lobby, and didn't respond to my PM. There's something fishy going on there and if you do hack, at least just keep it for the fucking ladder, and don't bother coming to Clan Wars, you're just ruining your name to be honest, it's not a good move.
Anyways I'm out for the night it's 3:00 AM here~
edit2 : okay just before leaving Cham, uploading replays where you don't hack doesn't prove anything, you could've turned it off for a few games, it's not relevant. I hope you guys figure it out.
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For the record, and I don't have these replays anymore cause they were from a while back (around the time of the original Kane vs Cham replay about ~7 months ago), but anyways, he tried shit on me ZvP that absolutely did not fly against what I was doing, and as a result lost horribly. So I never thought he hacked back then. And tbh we don't have any solid evidence except his "admission".
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On January 20 2013 17:19 EtherealDeath wrote: For the record, and I don't have these replays anymore cause they were from a while back (around the time of the original Kane vs Cham replay about ~7 months ago), but anyways, he tried shit on me ZvP that absolutely did not fly against what I was doing, and as a result lost horribly. So I never thought he hacked back then. And tbh we don't have any solid evidence except his "admission".
Precisely, as I have noted before, we only have his "admission" Nothing concrete so far. I am still reviewing replays.... going to be a while.
I've got through 6 replays so far, a fair bit of circumstantial stuff so far.
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i'm not saying cham hacks now or at the point the replay was played and posting replays is all nice and well, however the issue at hand is the admission. an admission seems to me as good as evidence as any to put somebodys name on the list.
if cham wants to come clean and provide the timeframe he was hacking in it could be added to the listing. this seems somewhat contentious so i'll remove the post for now.
i do not think you can play this off as sarcasm though, you can maybe plead stupidity, but it seems pretty farfetched.
00:55 [All] IIIlllIIIIll: yes LOL it was really obvious 01:08 [All] Cham: ye ye i used to hack 01:10 [All] Cham: TT 01:13 [All] Cham: i was to chobo 01:19 [All] IIIlllIIIIll: "used to" 01:33 [All] Cham: but 01:37 [All] Cham: i never hack on this acc 01:39 [All] Cham: i don't remember 01:44 [All] IIIlllIIIIll: mhm 01:45 [All] Cham: the hack 01:47 [All] Cham: doesn't work now 01:48 [All] Cham: :D
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Name shithappens Server EU League Master Just watch, he counters every move I make , doesnt scout and esp the move where he goes into his own main as I get a warp prism.
http://drop.sc/296936
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On January 20 2013 18:19 nunez wrote: i'm not saying cham hacks now or at the point the replay was played and posting replays is all nice and well, however the issue at hand is the admission. an admission seems to me as good as evidence as any to put somebodys name on the list.
if cham wants to come clean and provide the timeframe he was hacking in it could be added to the listing. this seems somewhat contentious so i'll remove the post for now.
i do not think you can play this off as sarcasm though, you can maybe plead stupidity, but it seems pretty farfetched.
00:55 [All] IIIlllIIIIll: yes LOL it was really obvious 01:08 [All] Cham: ye ye i used to hack 01:10 [All] Cham: TT 01:13 [All] Cham: i was to chobo 01:19 [All] IIIlllIIIIll: "used to" 01:33 [All] Cham: but 01:37 [All] Cham: i never hack on this acc 01:39 [All] Cham: i don't remember 01:44 [All] IIIlllIIIIll: mhm 01:45 [All] Cham: the hack 01:47 [All] Cham: doesn't work now 01:48 [All] Cham: :D
Yes this is most definitely not sarcasm and if he knows the hack doesn't work anymore he probably tried to turn it on at some point -.-
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[url blocked] a Classic MEME, but this is in spanish :/
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On January 21 2013 03:12 AinReNZz wrote: [url blocked] a Classic MEME, but this is in spanish :/
rofl, thats pure gold 
just like this http://i.imgur.com/VIg3Y.jpg
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On January 20 2013 12:36 Grimmyman123 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2013 08:51 BigBadBeaver wrote:Hacker Name: llIIlllIlllI (not sure how to get b.net profile, I hate these barcodes so much) Server: NA League: Masters Description: http://drop.sc/296770Sends a probe straight to my third on entombed to plant pylon for gateway push; doesn't bother scouting on 4 player map. I think it's pretty obvious. Player name: llIIlllIlllI Profile: http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/3064933/1/llIIlllIlllI/Thank you for your replay. No evidence of hacking present. Scouting probe has rally points set, but probe wanders into Terrans 3rd because of terran wall off at ramp (Bad pathing). Protoss player can determine that wall off occured at this location and as such, the locaiton of the terran opponent. A lack of any other scouting however is suspect, but only this. No hacking present in this replay. And yes, on Entombed, there is no close by ground (horizontal) spawn locations. Only vertical and cross. Fair enough. Apologies to mr. barcode
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On January 20 2013 18:19 nunez wrote: i'm not saying cham hacks now or at the point the replay was played and posting replays is all nice and well, however the issue at hand is the admission. an admission seems to me as good as evidence as any to put somebodys name on the list.
if cham wants to come clean and provide the timeframe he was hacking in it could be added to the listing. this seems somewhat contentious so i'll remove the post for now.
i do not think you can play this off as sarcasm though, you can maybe plead stupidity, but it seems pretty farfetched.
00:55 [All] IIIlllIIIIll: yes LOL it was really obvious 01:08 [All] Cham: ye ye i used to hack 01:10 [All] Cham: TT 01:13 [All] Cham: i was to chobo 01:19 [All] IIIlllIIIIll: "used to" 01:33 [All] Cham: but 01:37 [All] Cham: i never hack on this acc 01:39 [All] Cham: i don't remember 01:44 [All] IIIlllIIIIll: mhm 01:45 [All] Cham: the hack 01:47 [All] Cham: doesn't work now 01:48 [All] Cham: :D
It could be sarcasm / joking around. A lot of time when people accuse me of maphacking I'll just go along with it cuz I think it's a pretty idiotic accusation to make after / during a single game.
Regarding Cham, I've beaten him with a variety of stuff that wouldn't work against a hacker so I don't think he hacks now, if he ever did~
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I cant play anywhere without getting hacked NA... hots..
T_T_T_T_T_T blizzard i have ladder anxiety now because of hackers I just play enough games to run my BP to keep GM
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