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You have to provide some kind of evidence/proof (screenshots/replays etc.) if you are going to accuse somebody.

Additionally, a supporting comment of what people should be looking for and when will be necessary if you are posting replays/evidence.
EtherealDeath
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States8366 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-09 23:46:30
October 09 2012 23:45 GMT
#3321
On October 10 2012 08:41 Eifer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2012 08:36 EtherealDeath wrote:
On October 10 2012 08:10 IdrA wrote:
the id senorchang gave himself away as a hacker on my stream
he also implied gix hacks
http://www.twitch.tv/eg_idra/b/335005881
2:49:00 into that vod

Would be surprising if gix hacked. Beat him and almost beat him this season (fucked up due to my own micro mistake, not anything he did to counter me) based on things going unseen that... well would've been reacted to much better. For instance hiding a probe in the top nook on Shakuras just out of tower reach.
On October 10 2012 08:25 nunez wrote:
On October 10 2012 08:10 IdrA wrote:
the id senorchang gave himself away as a hacker on my stream
he also implied gix hacks
http://www.twitch.tv/eg_idra/b/335005881
2:49:00 into that vod


transcribing the chat for the lazy and curious:

SeNoRCHaNG: hacker idra or legit idra?
EGIdrA: hacker
SeNoRCHaNG: ah kk
SeNoRCHaNG: u a freind of ian yea?
EGIdrA: yea
SeNoRCHaNG: same
SeNoRCHaNG: :D
EGIdrA: cool
SeNoRCHaNG: i forgot who he said u were
SeNoRCHaNG: oh yea
SeNoRCHaNG: gix
SeNoRCHaNG: right?
EGIdrA: ya im gix the hacker
SeNoRCHaNG: EZ
EGIdrA: or
EGIdrA: pz

Ian is LGIntel btw.


This means nothing. It is incredibly easy to use another account and claim to be someone without having any ties to that person. It's not even circumstantial evidence about gix. Also note that gix got far at MLG Raleigh without hacks -> means that he 99.9999% doesn't hack.

Shit sorry typo, meant to type "Would be surprised if gix hacked". Ahh fucking typo destroying meaning.

edit - nvm I didn't typo, my eye played a trick on me and I saw Wouldn't. But yea, meaning is, I do NOT think gix is hacking, based on the games I've played vs him this season, so could just be a hacker trolling him.
ErAsc2
Profile Joined May 2012
Sweden256 Posts
October 09 2012 23:51 GMT
#3322
SeNoRCHaNG = FXONooBTaKkZ. I added noobtak after he 2gated me on a 4player map with the friend note "1000% Maphacker". Then that name in my friendlist changed to senorchang the next day, with my old friendnote remaining.
Swedish GM Protoss http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/2336142/1/MilkEA/
Doodsmack
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7224 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-10 01:05:12
October 10 2012 01:04 GMT
#3323
A quick hotkey analysis shows that the fake EGIdrA (currently GM rank 96) is in fact giX. This definitely warrants further investigation of both accounts.

giX

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Fake EGIdrA

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ZweiGaming
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada348 Posts
October 10 2012 01:06 GMT
#3324
On October 10 2012 08:10 IdrA wrote:
the id senorchang gave himself away as a hacker on my stream
he also implied gix hacks
http://www.twitch.tv/eg_idra/b/335005881
2:49:00 into that vod


ian is LGIntel, confirmed on the OP
ErAsc2
Profile Joined May 2012
Sweden256 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-10 01:17:22
October 10 2012 01:16 GMT
#3325
Who says the fake eg idra is maphacking? I cannon rushed him in his main on cloud kingdom and he didn't scout it, pretty sure he isn't hacking.

edit: played him several times, literally nothing points at him hacking from the replays we played.
Swedish GM Protoss http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/2336142/1/MilkEA/
CreatorGX
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States121 Posts
October 10 2012 02:17 GMT
#3326
On October 10 2012 10:16 ErAsc2 wrote:
Who says the fake eg idra is maphacking? I cannon rushed him in his main on cloud kingdom and he didn't scout it, pretty sure he isn't hacking.

edit: played him several times, literally nothing points at him hacking from the replays we played.


Could you upload the replays in question?
http://creatorgx.blogspot.com/
EtherealDeath
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States8366 Posts
October 10 2012 02:27 GMT
#3327
On October 10 2012 10:04 Doodsmack wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
A quick hotkey analysis shows that the fake EGIdrA (currently GM rank 96) is in fact giX. This definitely warrants further investigation of both accounts.

giX

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Fake EGIdrA

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That the fake EGIdra was giX wasn't exactly a secret.... I for instance have known about it for quite a while, don't remember exactly where I heard it though. And as with Era, I've never gotten the feeling that giX hacks, as he's lost to really dumb shit from me that no hacker would ever lose to... there'd be so many innocent ways to deal with it.
ErAsc2
Profile Joined May 2012
Sweden256 Posts
October 10 2012 02:35 GMT
#3328
http://drop.sc/263024
Swedish GM Protoss http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/2336142/1/MilkEA/
Rickyvalle21
Profile Joined July 2012
United States320 Posts
October 10 2012 06:01 GMT
#3329
I doubt giX hacks but even though hes a top NA zerg, that fake EGIdra accounts record is too good to be true.
people say practice is perfect but if nothing is perfect whats the point in practicing?
EtherealDeath
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States8366 Posts
October 10 2012 06:06 GMT
#3330
On October 10 2012 15:01 Rickyvalle21 wrote:
I doubt giX hacks but even though hes a top NA zerg, that fake EGIdra accounts record is too good to be true.

No it's not dude, he leveled it up from bronze.
GenesisX
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada4267 Posts
October 10 2012 06:09 GMT
#3331
On October 10 2012 08:10 IdrA wrote:
the id senorchang gave himself away as a hacker on my stream
he also implied gix hacks
http://www.twitch.tv/eg_idra/b/335005881
2:49:00 into that vod


also skip to 2:57:50 for the epic lulz
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JackReacher
Profile Joined September 2012
United States197 Posts
October 10 2012 06:28 GMT
#3332
Umm who cares about some random unknown anyway? Like who the fuck is "gix"? rofl
EtherealDeath
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States8366 Posts
October 10 2012 06:35 GMT
#3333
On October 10 2012 15:28 JackReacher wrote:
Umm who cares about some random unknown anyway? Like who the fuck is "gix"? rofl

Someone at the Razer house (you know that project of Mr Bitter's) as a player. Which makes this even more funny.
RemarK
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States452 Posts
October 11 2012 10:26 GMT
#3334
Hmmmm, I played SenorChang right after he played IdrA and he was talking about how "he played idra the game before and thought that it was the hacker IdrA." But yeah, pretty sure giX doesn't hack - or if he does, it's something he started doing recently and only on the fake IdrA account... He's lost to things that I strongly doubt a hacker would lose to (on his giX account) vs me in the past :/

frankly, I suspect that senorchang was just making this up as in the past, known hackers have enjoyed making accusations about other, non-hacking players. Also, LGIntel is currently playing on an account called AnnaProsser, in case anyone didn't know.

I <3 StarCraft.
EtherealDeath
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States8366 Posts
October 11 2012 10:28 GMT
#3335
On October 11 2012 19:26 RemarK wrote:
Hmmmm, I played SenorChang right after he played IdrA and he was talking about how "he played idra the game before and thought that it was the hacker IdrA." But yeah, pretty sure giX doesn't hack - or if he does, it's something he started doing recently and only on the fake IdrA account... He's lost to things that I strongly doubt a hacker would lose to (on his giX account) vs me in the past :/

frankly, I suspect that senorchang was just making this up as in the past, known hackers have enjoyed making accusations about other, non-hacking players. Also, LGIntel is currently playing on an account called AnnaProsser, in case anyone didn't know.


lol, spoofing as major eh
nBk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
174 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-11 11:42:31
October 11 2012 11:29 GMT
#3336
Hacker name: Water
Server: NA
League+Rank: Master, rank 3 (Division Lenassa Hawk)
B-net profile: http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/864467/1/Water/

+ Show Spoiler +

Replay #1: http://drop.sc/252878

0:06 - sends probe to opponent
0:23 - looks through fog at opponents base
3:11 - looks through fog at base
4:04 - looks through fog at base
4:25 - looking through fog
7:40 - looking through fog

Replay #2: http://drop.sc/258229

15:31 - looks through fog at lings
15:33 - moves camera looking through fog at lings
16:56 - looks through fog at enemy army
17:07 - looking through fog again at army (watch his clicks move further back as enemy army does, after the initial look)
18:53 - camera lock at the very edge of fog/vision (enemy army is inc.) (apm drops)
19:36 - blink hack
19:38 - blink hack
19:39 - blink hack (last time noting)

Replay #3: http://drop.sc/259310

1:06 - notice his multiple slight camera moves to see the probe/proxy in his base without seeming "too obvious" but keeping the top left of his base in his cameras vision (after he noticed it, never did it before this)

Replay #4
: http://drop.sc/259311

3:27 - looks down through fog at probe before he has vision of it
7:14 - looks through fog at enemy army (probe got killed so i can't really say much about this, noted anyways)


Anyways, first two replays are enough evidence to support he hacks. Last 2 replays aren't really that great of evidence, but suspicious enough to note.


On October 11 2012 19:26 RemarK wrote:
Also, LGIntel is currently playing on an account called AnnaProsser, in case anyone didn't know.



How do you know if you don't mind me asking? In any case, if true thanks for that information.
We all die. The goal isn't to live forever, the goal is to create something that will.
Glorfindel!
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden1815 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-11 20:22:56
October 11 2012 20:13 GMT
#3337
Hacker Name: CromWell - Playing Zerg(!)
Server EU
League + Rank: Master, Rank 32 (Valerian Upsilion)

URL to hack-replay:
http://drop.sc/263693

Why is it a hacker?
0.00-3.00 - Screen locked in base, no scouting what so ever on Entombed Valley.
3.35 - Pulls drones to his natural when Im going to Bunker Rush - Starts mining the Mineral Patch closest to the ramp
3.43 - Pulls 5 Drones to Blindly Intercept my SCVs that is incoming in the Fog of War
6.20 - Camera Locked in base
6.45 - BIG FogPeak in my base - Has STILL not scouted where I spawned
8.00 Makes a lot of spines since he knows Im going 5 Baracks all in
8.50 - Start additional spines when my army moves over the map (no vision what so ever)
Also peaks at my army in the Fog of War.

Combine this with his camera not moving outside his base during the whole game expects when he looks in the FoG of war...

Should be no discussion about this one Zwei, as usual when I upload those replays
http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/598681/1/Glorfindel/ladder/161337#current-rank
Glorfindel!
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden1815 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-11 20:26:12
October 11 2012 20:22 GMT
#3338
Doublepost, sorry.
http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/598681/1/Glorfindel/ladder/161337#current-rank
nunez
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Norway4003 Posts
October 11 2012 20:27 GMT
#3339
ye, i'm pretty sure that guy is a maphacker, i posted a replay here a few pages back of him blindcountering my 6 pool. (i 6 pooled because i remembered his name from this thread)
conspired against by a confederacy of dunces.
Glorfindel!
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden1815 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-11 20:35:38
October 11 2012 20:33 GMT
#3340
On October 12 2012 05:27 nunez wrote:
ye, i'm pretty sure that guy is a maphacker, i posted a replay here a few pages back of him blindcountering my 6 pool. (i 6 pooled because i remembered his name from this thread)


CromWell?
Yeah, my replay makes it kind of obvious

Zwei: 3 Replays with this guy in the thread ATM
http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/598681/1/Glorfindel/ladder/161337#current-rank
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