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You have to provide some kind of evidence/proof (screenshots/replays etc.) if you are going to accuse somebody.

Additionally, a supporting comment of what people should be looking for and when will be necessary if you are posting replays/evidence.
nunez
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Norway4003 Posts
October 11 2012 20:48 GMT
#3341
On October 12 2012 05:33 Glorfindel! wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2012 05:27 nunez wrote:
ye, i'm pretty sure that guy is a maphacker, i posted a replay here a few pages back of him blindcountering my 6 pool. (i 6 pooled because i remembered his name from this thread)


CromWell?
Yeah, my replay makes it kind of obvious

Zwei: 3 Replays with this guy in the thread ATM


yep. think he'll be confirmed next time around. woo. 1 down, some to go.
conspired against by a confederacy of dunces.
RemarK
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States452 Posts
October 12 2012 01:04 GMT
#3342
On October 11 2012 20:29 nBk wrote:
How do you know if you don't mind me asking? In any case, if true thanks for that information.


Saw him in one of the public chat channels advertising leveling, many of the things AnnaProsser was saying sounded familiar to the stuff Intel says when he's in reddit / TL / General strategy in-game channels so I asked "are you intel?" and he said yes.
I <3 StarCraft.
Shew
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States460 Posts
October 12 2012 01:23 GMT
#3343
Not like blatant maphacks, but very suspicious. Played him in playhem

barcode llllllllllll (all L's) .626
NA, masters

Replay in question: http://drop.sc/263812

Some notes I saw very quick:

~8:00 sends 3 hellions directly south to kill a probe/pylon that he did not scout at all
8:10 drops 3 hellions in base as I move out, no vision of me moving out at all
8:15 has hellions selected while I warp in 2 stalkers in my main... I move them out of my base and then he moves them in. Never had vision, all under fog of war
--Sends the medivac immediately back, doesn't leave it there in case the hellion drop should fail (considering his 1st fail drop attempt saw 2 stalkers in my mineral line)

Also the fact that you can't message him unless ur on his F list doesn't help prob to deter people from msging him

Again this is not 100% zomg maphacks, but it is very suspicious




http://www.twitch.tv/shew_tv | @ClarityShew on Twitter~
P7GAB
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada486 Posts
October 12 2012 02:02 GMT
#3344
On October 11 2012 20:29 nBk wrote:
Hacker name: Water
Server: NA
League+Rank: Master, rank 3 (Division Lenassa Hawk)
B-net profile: http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/864467/1/Water/

+ Show Spoiler +

Replay #1: http://drop.sc/252878

0:06 - sends probe to opponent
0:23 - looks through fog at opponents base
3:11 - looks through fog at base
4:04 - looks through fog at base
4:25 - looking through fog
7:40 - looking through fog

Replay #2: http://drop.sc/258229

15:31 - looks through fog at lings
15:33 - moves camera looking through fog at lings
16:56 - looks through fog at enemy army
17:07 - looking through fog again at army (watch his clicks move further back as enemy army does, after the initial look)
18:53 - camera lock at the very edge of fog/vision (enemy army is inc.) (apm drops)
19:36 - blink hack
19:38 - blink hack
19:39 - blink hack (last time noting)

Replay #3: http://drop.sc/259310

1:06 - notice his multiple slight camera moves to see the probe/proxy in his base without seeming "too obvious" but keeping the top left of his base in his cameras vision (after he noticed it, never did it before this)

Replay #4
: http://drop.sc/259311

3:27 - looks down through fog at probe before he has vision of it
7:14 - looks through fog at enemy army (probe got killed so i can't really say much about this, noted anyways)


Anyways, first two replays are enough evidence to support he hacks. Last 2 replays aren't really that great of evidence, but suspicious enough to note.


Show nested quote +
On October 11 2012 19:26 RemarK wrote:
Also, LGIntel is currently playing on an account called AnnaProsser, in case anyone didn't know.



How do you know if you don't mind me asking? In any case, if true thanks for that information.



water is Google, the guy who got hacking before
Heweree
Profile Joined July 2011
United Kingdom497 Posts
October 12 2012 02:43 GMT
#3345
It seems it's the right place. So I just played on ladder a player named Nerffy. He admitted he hacks, told me my position and my build order without scouting and said even by reporting him he won't get banned.
http://imgur.com/FQz4a,0Pjy0,awAfe,PpAt0,poGUC,M4XYD,dFx6J,HTdYR
Thylacine
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden882 Posts
October 12 2012 07:11 GMT
#3346
Nerffy obviously doesen't realize that blizzard bans in waves. Now that he has openly admitted hes a maphacker hes gonna get banned no doubt in my mind.
What you're looking at could be the end of a particularly terrifying nightmare. It isn't. It's the beginning. Introducing Mr. John Valentine, air traveler. His destination: the Twilight Zone...
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
October 12 2012 07:17 GMT
#3347
On October 12 2012 16:11 Thylacine wrote:
Nerffy obviously doesen't realize that blizzard bans in waves. Now that he has openly admitted hes a maphacker hes gonna get banned no doubt in my mind.


I dunno fnatic tricky admitted to it unless I am mistaken and it still took like a year to get him banned. That guy's fine for another 8 months or so.
When I think of something else, something will go here
Thylacine
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden882 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-12 09:20:52
October 12 2012 09:16 GMT
#3348
He paid a fucking 62 dollars to hack though...There is commitment. He didn't just get this for free. And yes, eventually he will be struck down. Struck down and forced to pay another 40 euros SC2 acc to hack once again.
What you're looking at could be the end of a particularly terrifying nightmare. It isn't. It's the beginning. Introducing Mr. John Valentine, air traveler. His destination: the Twilight Zone...
Nyast
Profile Joined November 2010
Belgium554 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-12 09:39:16
October 12 2012 09:39 GMT
#3349
Played that guy yesterday evening. He's high masters ( currently ~750 pts, top 1000 ) though not top top, not sure if that's high enough to be investigated, but in case of:

http://www.sc2ranks.com/eu/2826277/SuiNy

[image loading]

I have a PvZ style where I use mass prisms during the mid/late game, so the easiest way to confirm that he's map hacking is to see how he moves his army just *before* my prisms enter his bases.. without having vision of them !

This happens a dozen times in this game ( that I could notice ). Also when I moved my mothership to do a mass recall into his fourth, he "magically" sent corruptors to intercept it ( and failed at that, lol ! ).

In the end I win and he rage quits, accusing me of hacking. That guy was so bad I couldn't believe it.
Rickyvalle21
Profile Joined July 2012
United States320 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-12 17:20:09
October 12 2012 16:40 GMT
#3350
sorry guise just alot of hatred for these maphackers
people say practice is perfect but if nothing is perfect whats the point in practicing?
Rad
Profile Joined May 2010
United States935 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-12 16:49:09
October 12 2012 16:47 GMT
#3351
On October 13 2012 01:40 Rickyvalle21 wrote:

was playing that hacker redz alternate acc for 2v2 random and had a chat afterwards. I really wished all these guys get a ban hammer and a ip ban with it too, oh yea excuse my bm i dont really mean the stuff i say on the internet


Did you really want to show us this conversation? I'd delete it if I were you...
TechNoTrance
Profile Joined May 2012
Canada1007 Posts
October 12 2012 17:00 GMT
#3352
+ Show Spoiler +
On October 13 2012 01:40 Rickyvalle21 wrote:

was playing that hacker redz alternate acc for 2v2 random and had a chat afterwards. I really wished all these guys get a ban hammer and a ip ban with it too, oh yea excuse my bm i dont really mean the stuff i say on the internet

[image loading]



You should really take this down. No one wants to see your immature homophobic bashing.
All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to us.
MrCash
Profile Joined October 2011
United States1504 Posts
October 12 2012 17:12 GMT
#3353
On October 13 2012 01:40 Rickyvalle21 wrote:

was playing that hacker redz alternate acc for 2v2 random and had a chat afterwards. I really wished all these guys get a ban hammer and a ip ban with it too, oh yea excuse my bm i dont really mean the stuff i say on the internet

[image loading]


If you don't mean what you say, maybe he didn't mean a thing he said either.

I'm not being literal here, just pointing out the hypocrisy.
StreetWise
Profile Joined January 2010
United States594 Posts
October 12 2012 17:43 GMT
#3354
On October 12 2012 10:23 Shew wrote:
Not like blatant maphacks, but very suspicious. Played him in playhem

barcode llllllllllll (all L's) .626
NA, masters

Replay in question: http://drop.sc/263812

Some notes I saw very quick:

~8:00 sends 3 hellions directly south to kill a probe/pylon that he did not scout at all
8:10 drops 3 hellions in base as I move out, no vision of me moving out at all
8:15 has hellions selected while I warp in 2 stalkers in my main... I move them out of my base and then he moves them in. Never had vision, all under fog of war
--Sends the medivac immediately back, doesn't leave it there in case the hellion drop should fail (considering his 1st fail drop attempt saw 2 stalkers in my mineral line)

Also the fact that you can't message him unless ur on his F list doesn't help prob to deter people from msging him

Again this is not 100% zomg maphacks, but it is very suspicious





I played him in Playhem as well. I thought he hacked and reported him.
I will not be poisoned by your bitterness
Sokrates
Profile Joined May 2012
738 Posts
October 12 2012 19:08 GMT
#3355
On October 12 2012 18:16 Thylacine wrote:
He paid a fucking 62 dollars to hack though...There is commitment. He didn't just get this for free. And yes, eventually he will be struck down. Struck down and forced to pay another 40 euros SC2 acc to hack once again.



8-12months to get banned for hacking? They should get banned in 4-5 weeks. That would be expensive but spending 100 bucks once a year after they play the game for at least 3-4 hours a day? Thats not expensive.
Thylacine
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden882 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-13 08:49:21
October 12 2012 20:46 GMT
#3356
On October 13 2012 04:08 Sokrates wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2012 18:16 Thylacine wrote:
He paid a fucking 62 dollars to hack though...There is commitment. He didn't just get this for free. And yes, eventually he will be struck down. Struck down and forced to pay another 40 euros SC2 acc to hack once again.



8-12months to get banned for hacking? They should get banned in 4-5 weeks. That would be expensive but spending 100 bucks once a year after they play the game for at least 3-4 hours a day? Thats not expensive.


I know someone who hacked, and he is on TL.net and never got lynched so I won't say his name, but he used maphack and said in a 1v1 what build his opponent was doing (a 7 pool) and did an incredibly early wall with forge and gateway, perfect counter and 2 weeks later he was banned.
So it depends, alot. And he did use a ''anti warden safe'' hack so it wasn't auto ban, it was an actual blizzard ban hammer ban. So please agree it's not always they survive for 8-12 months.

Btw the VC hack is not account bound so they only buy it for $62 once, never again :/.
What you're looking at could be the end of a particularly terrifying nightmare. It isn't. It's the beginning. Introducing Mr. John Valentine, air traveler. His destination: the Twilight Zone...
QxGRockEr
Profile Joined July 2011
United States191 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-13 02:22:05
October 12 2012 21:00 GMT
#3357
i guess i shoulda just stayed with my first post on i think this guy will eventually be a hacker ;D Meridian...
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nBk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
174 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-13 01:05:00
October 12 2012 23:53 GMT
#3358
On October 13 2012 06:00 QxGRockEr wrote:
new NA player Meridian. totally hacks but just like vencido. im sure ppl will realize this also and post own replays. My replay only has 3 suspicious plays in it. So not really worth posting yet.

yeah. this dude hacks big time but it would take someone with high mmr (knows skill) to understand it..
1. Three hatch standard opening he does some ling dmg or w/e so i do a more risky then normal third. He cancels third hatch ( no vision ) and 2base all ins. That fails (pretty badly microd by him imo..shows low skill)
2. Next attack. Roach Infestor at my third. Normal roach infestor attack you tank dmg with roachs and throw down all ifnested terrans behind toss wall (normally very cost effective) Me knowing this goes around to flank him. and kill infestors and roachs after he uses energy. He never used energy and weirdly had his infestors ready to chain fungal my units and basically it just went perfect for him.
3. No scouting. Decides to build spore/spines as my dt's warp in. ( sure it could be coincidence ) Sure it could just be he thought it was that late in game he might as well do it. But three strikes? Idk like i said. Might not be enough evidence yet. But they always keep playing. so here is replay #1
http://drop.sc/264032



Took a look at the replay and im writing kinda play-by-play
+ Show Spoiler +

1. Scouts and sees you ffe, with 2 gates before you even made 1 cannon. 4 lings get in easily because of this, and kills the cannon still building
2. 19 probes (a big amount, and all of your current probes) are delayed from mining for quite a bit. Slight over-reaction.
3. Continued to dance 12 probes around outside your base after his lings left your base, another over-reaction.
4. He got a decent early game lead because of your over-reaction.
5. he cancelled his third hatch because he could of honestly ended the game if he reacted correctly, due to your early mistakes
6. you tried to take a very, very risky third, with 1 unit (zealot) to defend, while behind. Which was a very bad idea. You're lucky he didn't just make lings and end the game. (his mistake)
7. 8 minutes into the game and he has about a 20+ish supply lead by this time, since he was able to macro decently with no fear of attack.
8. It wasn't a 2 base all-in. Standard 2 base roach(6) pressure into easy third. (he was ahead anyways, no need to all-in. He adjusted accordingly)
9. You gave up 2 free sentries pretty easily to him early.
10. 40+ish supply difference at 10+ish minutes, you only have 3 units as i am writing this.
11. he had vision of your units before he chain fungled or moved them, you walked right into him. (you made it perfect for him) (and of course he saved his energy, it was a smart move by him instead of wasting infested terrans on a few gateways and no units around.. he has roaches to kill those off just fine while he baits what little army you have into fungle growth)
12. He has 50+ supply lead now

I quit watching after this.

Did you even analyze your own replay and see what you did wrong before you came here to accuse this guy? There is no evidence in this replay that he hacks "like vencido" other than you just made a few mistakes and he capitalized on it.

Please review your replay before you accuse someone. This replay has 0 evidence in it.

On October 12 2012 18:16 Thylacine wrote:
I know someone who hacked, a he is on TL.net and never got lynched so I won't say his name


Thanks for the help...
We all die. The goal isn't to live forever, the goal is to create something that will.
Thylacine
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden882 Posts
October 13 2012 08:44 GMT
#3359
On October 13 2012 08:53 nBk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2012 06:00 QxGRockEr wrote:
new NA player Meridian. totally hacks but just like vencido. im sure ppl will realize this also and post own replays. My replay only has 3 suspicious plays in it. So not really worth posting yet.

yeah. this dude hacks big time but it would take someone with high mmr (knows skill) to understand it..
1. Three hatch standard opening he does some ling dmg or w/e so i do a more risky then normal third. He cancels third hatch ( no vision ) and 2base all ins. That fails (pretty badly microd by him imo..shows low skill)
2. Next attack. Roach Infestor at my third. Normal roach infestor attack you tank dmg with roachs and throw down all ifnested terrans behind toss wall (normally very cost effective) Me knowing this goes around to flank him. and kill infestors and roachs after he uses energy. He never used energy and weirdly had his infestors ready to chain fungal my units and basically it just went perfect for him.
3. No scouting. Decides to build spore/spines as my dt's warp in. ( sure it could be coincidence ) Sure it could just be he thought it was that late in game he might as well do it. But three strikes? Idk like i said. Might not be enough evidence yet. But they always keep playing. so here is replay #1
http://drop.sc/264032



Took a look at the replay and im writing kinda play-by-play
+ Show Spoiler +

1. Scouts and sees you ffe, with 2 gates before you even made 1 cannon. 4 lings get in easily because of this, and kills the cannon still building
2. 19 probes (a big amount, and all of your current probes) are delayed from mining for quite a bit. Slight over-reaction.
3. Continued to dance 12 probes around outside your base after his lings left your base, another over-reaction.
4. He got a decent early game lead because of your over-reaction.
5. he cancelled his third hatch because he could of honestly ended the game if he reacted correctly, due to your early mistakes
6. you tried to take a very, very risky third, with 1 unit (zealot) to defend, while behind. Which was a very bad idea. You're lucky he didn't just make lings and end the game. (his mistake)
7. 8 minutes into the game and he has about a 20+ish supply lead by this time, since he was able to macro decently with no fear of attack.
8. It wasn't a 2 base all-in. Standard 2 base roach(6) pressure into easy third. (he was ahead anyways, no need to all-in. He adjusted accordingly)
9. You gave up 2 free sentries pretty easily to him early.
10. 40+ish supply difference at 10+ish minutes, you only have 3 units as i am writing this.
11. he had vision of your units before he chain fungled or moved them, you walked right into him. (you made it perfect for him) (and of course he saved his energy, it was a smart move by him instead of wasting infested terrans on a few gateways and no units around.. he has roaches to kill those off just fine while he baits what little army you have into fungle growth)
12. He has 50+ supply lead now

I quit watching after this.

Did you even analyze your own replay and see what you did wrong before you came here to accuse this guy? There is no evidence in this replay that he hacks "like vencido" other than you just made a few mistakes and he capitalized on it.

Please review your replay before you accuse someone. This replay has 0 evidence in it.

Show nested quote +
On October 12 2012 18:16 Thylacine wrote:
I know someone who hacked, a he is on TL.net and never got lynched so I won't say his name


Thanks for the help...


Are you stupid Why would I ruin my friends image? And he hasnt been hacking for ages and he won't do it ever again, so why does it matter?
some people...
What you're looking at could be the end of a particularly terrifying nightmare. It isn't. It's the beginning. Introducing Mr. John Valentine, air traveler. His destination: the Twilight Zone...
nBk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
174 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-13 16:33:56
October 13 2012 13:59 GMT
#3360
On October 13 2012 17:44 Thylacine wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2012 08:53 nBk wrote:
On October 13 2012 06:00 QxGRockEr wrote:
new NA player Meridian. totally hacks but just like vencido. im sure ppl will realize this also and post own replays. My replay only has 3 suspicious plays in it. So not really worth posting yet.

yeah. this dude hacks big time but it would take someone with high mmr (knows skill) to understand it..
1. Three hatch standard opening he does some ling dmg or w/e so i do a more risky then normal third. He cancels third hatch ( no vision ) and 2base all ins. That fails (pretty badly microd by him imo..shows low skill)
2. Next attack. Roach Infestor at my third. Normal roach infestor attack you tank dmg with roachs and throw down all ifnested terrans behind toss wall (normally very cost effective) Me knowing this goes around to flank him. and kill infestors and roachs after he uses energy. He never used energy and weirdly had his infestors ready to chain fungal my units and basically it just went perfect for him.
3. No scouting. Decides to build spore/spines as my dt's warp in. ( sure it could be coincidence ) Sure it could just be he thought it was that late in game he might as well do it. But three strikes? Idk like i said. Might not be enough evidence yet. But they always keep playing. so here is replay #1
http://drop.sc/264032



Took a look at the replay and im writing kinda play-by-play
+ Show Spoiler +

1. Scouts and sees you ffe, with 2 gates before you even made 1 cannon. 4 lings get in easily because of this, and kills the cannon still building
2. 19 probes (a big amount, and all of your current probes) are delayed from mining for quite a bit. Slight over-reaction.
3. Continued to dance 12 probes around outside your base after his lings left your base, another over-reaction.
4. He got a decent early game lead because of your over-reaction.
5. he cancelled his third hatch because he could of honestly ended the game if he reacted correctly, due to your early mistakes
6. you tried to take a very, very risky third, with 1 unit (zealot) to defend, while behind. Which was a very bad idea. You're lucky he didn't just make lings and end the game. (his mistake)
7. 8 minutes into the game and he has about a 20+ish supply lead by this time, since he was able to macro decently with no fear of attack.
8. It wasn't a 2 base all-in. Standard 2 base roach(6) pressure into easy third. (he was ahead anyways, no need to all-in. He adjusted accordingly)
9. You gave up 2 free sentries pretty easily to him early.
10. 40+ish supply difference at 10+ish minutes, you only have 3 units as i am writing this.
11. he had vision of your units before he chain fungled or moved them, you walked right into him. (you made it perfect for him) (and of course he saved his energy, it was a smart move by him instead of wasting infested terrans on a few gateways and no units around.. he has roaches to kill those off just fine while he baits what little army you have into fungle growth)
12. He has 50+ supply lead now

I quit watching after this.

Did you even analyze your own replay and see what you did wrong before you came here to accuse this guy? There is no evidence in this replay that he hacks "like vencido" other than you just made a few mistakes and he capitalized on it.

Please review your replay before you accuse someone. This replay has 0 evidence in it.

On October 12 2012 18:16 Thylacine wrote:
I know someone who hacked, a he is on TL.net and never got lynched so I won't say his name


Thanks for the help...


Are you stupid Why would I ruin my friends image? And he hasnt been hacking for ages and he won't do it ever again, so why does it matter?
some people...


No, i'm not stupid. But thanks for that assumption. The replay shows nothing but mistakes made by you and nothing suspicious at all by him. Do you realize that?

I suggest going over the replay again from your point of view and see all the little mistakes you made that added up instead of coming on here and calling people names for doing what you asked in the first place.


edit: i'm blind.
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