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On October 02 2012 02:28 raebodupdep wrote:LGWhite NA Master top 20 http://sc2shr.com/xxFirst game, he sends probe directly into my base and sets up a 2gate proxy all in without scouting. http://sc2shr.com/xySecond game, Tal'darim Altar, sends probe directly into my base and sets up a 2gate proxy all in without scouting. Somehow he knows my location out of 3 possible spawns. http://sc2shr.com/xzThird game. By this point I wasn't sure if he was hacking, I opened 6pool because I was suspecting that he'd do a 2gate all in. Instead he opens FF without scouting, and places a pylon by his main's mineral line. Then starts to build a cannon inside his main without scouting at all and without seeing my zerglings run across the map. Someone confirm this please. P.S. Did not use drop.sc because it was down.
Here is screenshot of his matches. Notice very short games, all of them are 2gate proxy all-ins.
![[image loading]](http://puu.sh/1aqL9)
Did anyone watch the replays? Need confirmation.
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On October 02 2012 02:54 raebodupdep wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2012 02:28 raebodupdep wrote:LGWhite NA Master top 20 http://sc2shr.com/xxFirst game, he sends probe directly into my base and sets up a 2gate proxy all in without scouting. http://sc2shr.com/xySecond game, Tal'darim Altar, sends probe directly into my base and sets up a 2gate proxy all in without scouting. Somehow he knows my location out of 3 possible spawns. http://sc2shr.com/xzThird game. By this point I wasn't sure if he was hacking, I opened 6pool because I was suspecting that he'd do a 2gate all in. Instead he opens FF without scouting, and places a pylon by his main's mineral line. Then starts to build a cannon inside his main without scouting at all and without seeing my zerglings run across the map. Someone confirm this please. P.S. Did not use drop.sc because it was down. Here is screenshot of his matches. Notice very short games, all of them are 2gate proxy all-ins. Did anyone watch the replays? Need confirmation.
I just watched all three replay and he proxy without scouting. He didn't even bother to check for creep. Very likely that he's maphacking.
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On September 30 2012 16:13 Antieque wrote:I have a replay I posted earlier of the same dude 3 pylon walling me on tal darim without scouting l0l.
I have played against him and his partner SlayerS on 2v2 NA. Very suspicious of hacking. Will upload the replay later.
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Yeah there was another guy LGBolero who was map hacking, there are a couple more too.
Pretty much any time I play against somebody with the 'LG' tag, I just assume they're hacking.
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On October 02 2012 01:06 AnomalySC2 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2012 00:46 Zennith wrote:On October 01 2012 22:22 AnomalySC2 wrote:On October 01 2012 14:58 Braric wrote:On October 01 2012 14:46 ButtCraft wrote:Here's another one. Nerffy, master league terran. http://drop.sc/259967Blatantly looks at a proxied factory through the fog of war, even admits to maphacking after I beat him. It's shameful that this guy is even in masters, he's awful. I cannot believe how rampant map hacks are today. This is out of control. Yep dude, I have faced this fucking asshole 6 months ago and reported him numerous of times and NOTHING I stress NOTHING has been done. Every time I try to make a thread about how bad it is getting the mods delete it, this game is at the point of being unplayable as a mid-high master guy trying to break into the top as you are constantly being bombarded with bullshit map hackers. I seriously don't understand what is so fucking hard about banning someone who is being reported for hacking over and over GL with that. There is more going on than just you being maphacked over and over, that is all I will say. Lets just say, Blizz doesn't let just anyone into GM, skill is not the only thing that matters in this game. I realize that sounds stupid and highly tin foil hatish, but just trust me you're better off not even bothering if that's your goal. Also sorry for the double post, I don't know how to delete. Uhhhh.... What? That's gibberish. Sure it is  .
It is. You're clearly an idiot. There's no reason to suspect that blizzard tampers with GM. After all, what would be the point?
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This might be off-topic, but this Ivanski guy just got massacred on Demuslim's stream and he's going through the replay right now pointing out all the obvious points of hacking.
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On October 01 2012 22:14 korona wrote:Show nested quote +On September 30 2012 14:45 ZweiGaming wrote:
Updated the OP with new hackers. I have not yet have been able to watch all the replays recently submitted here so don't worry if everything is not 100% up to date. When you add new confirmed hackers to the original post, could you add a time stamp? It would then be easier to see if new ones have been added and when.
I'll try to think of it for the future ones
On October 02 2012 02:34 Lylat wrote:
Are all the LG hackers or what ? It was a decent team in BW :/
LG disbanned two months ago
On October 02 2012 03:32 ButtCraft wrote:
Yeah there was another guy LGBolero who was map hacking, there are a couple more too.
Pretty much any time I play against somebody with the 'LG' tag, I just assume they're hacking.
If you match me on ladder, think twice before accusing me of maphacking (My account being "LGZwei".). By the way, LG disbanned and most people are just stuck with the tag even though the team is no more. Also, most of the people wearing the tag were actually never on the team as I never heard their name before... That is the flaw of not having the official clan tag feature in sc2 (as it was possible in wc3).
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On September 30 2012 09:09 DanLee wrote:Show nested quote +On September 30 2012 08:32 Whitewing wrote:On September 29 2012 07:17 Soloturtle wrote:LGFuzeMagoo maphacker and spam hack? Blind proxy 2 gate on Tal Darim and has 1200 APM? Nothing much to it. http://drop.sc/258778 Yeah, I had the same thing, but on Entombed. I actually played fuzemagoo today, he pylon walled me before I even built hatch so I just won the game but he accused me of hacking.
Well considering the last replay of you I wouldn't be surprised if I were using MH's.
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Watched replay and posted in the reddit thread, that guy is almost definitely not maphacking and you just seem to be a whiner / douche. That guy you're accusing has even posted helpfully in this thread several times, I really hate when people with low-level understanding of the game accuse others of maphacking. >_>
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rcg (Z, top right) vs SCAedge (T, bot left) @ Cloud Kingdom
@4:02 changes the path of a scouting marine to attack an incoming overlord. looks at it through fow (but it's right next to the marine).
@5:20 splits marines before trying to kill overlord at natural before seeing it (common place for ovis).
@8:05 sends marine to scout on the left side intercept a overlord from the xel naga. also sends a marine around the right side of map which catches another overlord at 9:08. (solid move)
@11:42 starts up turrents around his base, just as spire starts, only having scouted an infestation pit. also getting turret range.
@14:30 gets double reactored starport pumping 4 vikings at a time after greater spire starts. no scouting info on whether hive is even done.
@16:50 moves out killing the fourth under the third and moves back as broods are approaching, not scanning once.
@17:50 scans the infestors midmap randomly and moves out to kill the approaching broods (seperated from infestors) he had no vision of.
@20:49 has 4 banshees at the bottom left plateu of rcgs main with no support, corruptors shooting at them. sends them over to attack the greater spire he had never scouted.
@21:50 starts banshee prodcution back up, ultra on the way (but he killed the greater spire).
@22:34 looks into fog of war at infestors midmap.
@23:30 sieges up right before, and then scans rcg as he attacks the fourth attacks him.
@24:24 lifts depots at his natural as rcg is moving around (but he saw rcg move towards the upper xel naga tower with his vision tower).
@25:37 starts up turrets as he reestablishes his fourth as rcg is making a suprise round of muta (common to build turrets outside your fourth).
@26:10 scans right on rcgs army outside his fourth
i think there's a disparity between the skill shown to make these decisions and SCAedges general gameplay (unless you want to chalk it up to luck).
overall i'd say this replay is suspicious and i'd like to see more of his replays.
as for 'shooting overlord without vision' mentioned in the reddit thread, the overlord is on the edge of the cliff, in vision before it disappears and SCAedge has to scan.
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On October 02 2012 08:10 PauseBreak wrote:Show nested quote +On September 30 2012 09:09 DanLee wrote:On September 30 2012 08:32 Whitewing wrote:On September 29 2012 07:17 Soloturtle wrote:LGFuzeMagoo maphacker and spam hack? Blind proxy 2 gate on Tal Darim and has 1200 APM? Nothing much to it. http://drop.sc/258778 Yeah, I had the same thing, but on Entombed. I actually played fuzemagoo today, he pylon walled me before I even built hatch so I just won the game but he accused me of hacking. Well considering the last replay of you I wouldn't be surprised if I were using MH's.
You should consider actually watching my replay lmao
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I just want to say, I do not hack "LGRuSH" but stuck with this stupid clan tag. I didn't know when i joined they were gonna let every single person on battle.net join. Huge problem with team. Not all LG hack but alot of them do.
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On October 02 2012 10:17 nunez wrote:rcg (Z, top right) vs SCAedge (T, bot left) @ Cloud Kingdom @4:02 changes the path of a scouting marine to attack an incoming overlord. looks at it through fow (but it's right next to the marine). @5:20 splits marines before trying to kill overlord at natural before seeing it (common place for ovis). @8:05 sends marine to scout on the left side intercept a overlord from the xel naga. also sends a marine around the right side of map which catches another overlord at 9:08. (solid move) @11:42 starts up turrents around his base, just as spire starts, only having scouted an infestation pit. also getting turret range. @14:30 gets double reactored starport pumping 4 vikings at a time after greater spire starts. no scouting info on whether hive is even done. @16:50 moves out killing the fourth under the third and moves back as broods are approaching, not scanning once. @17:50 scans the infestors midmap randomly and moves out to kill the approaching broods (seperated from infestors) he had no vision of. @20:49 has 4 banshees at the bottom left plateu of rcgs main with no support, corruptors shooting at them. sends them over to attack the greater spire he had never scouted. @21:50 starts banshee prodcution back up, ultra on the way (but he killed the greater spire). @22:34 looks into fog of war at infestors midmap. @23:30 sieges up right before, and then scans rcg as he attacks the fourth attacks him. @24:24 lifts depots at his natural as rcg is moving around (but he saw rcg move towards the upper xel naga tower with his vision tower). @25:37 starts up turrets as he reestablishes his fourth as rcg is making a suprise round of muta (common to build turrets outside your fourth). @26:10 scans right on rcgs army outside his fourth i think there's a disparity between the skill shown to make these decisions and SCAedges general gameplay (unless you want to chalk it up to luck). overall i'd say this replay is suspicious and i'd like to see more of his replays. as for 'shooting overlord without vision' mentioned in the reddit thread, the overlord is on the edge of the cliff, in vision before it disappears and SCAedge has to scan.
If he was hacking, why would he make missile turrets against what is obviously a hive + greater spire transition? I think the far more obvious explanation is that he's just a random player doing random things blindly / stupidly
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I'm sorry that I killed 2-3 of your overlord in beginning of game that made you rage. But posting a replay and accusing me of hacking can ruin my reputation as a whole. The overlord position in that map is always identical to most zerg's play. But next time before you accused any body else of maphacking, have a better evidence because it can easily ruins one reputation.
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Not top masters, so can be ignored for the primary listing and evaluation
http://drop.sc/259785
http://sc2ranks.com/us/3433088/Super
Some of these things are less significant than others, but I think it's pretty obvious taken together as a whole
5:45 - Goes to kill the SCV at the third waiting to go back in and scout. Doesn't bother to take watchtowers, make a stalker, poke the front or anything a Protoss normally does
8:35 - Warps in units and moves to intercept a drop with no scouting information. Proceeds to chronoboost gateways and warp in in the main, watch for where the drop will come in with units selected
9:25 - As the drop moves away, the units follow, then go back to the natural and don't bother to stick around in the main, because, you know, there's no possibility of the drop going back in
10:25 - As soon as the factory lands at the third, sends his whole army to kill it
10:39 - No idea what he's looking at or why the camera just shifts over and stops in the empty fog.
14:30 - As my army moves out (note that his only scout to this point was a probe into my bunker at about 4:30), he warps in a big round of units and moves them to the secondary ramp and watches that area with his army selected. No defense in the main for drops. Nothing at the third. Only where I was attacking.
And he's only high plat and not in the process of winning every game, so I guess he's probably in the actual ability level of around silver.
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On October 02 2012 10:28 RemarK wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2012 10:17 nunez wrote:rcg (Z, top right) vs SCAedge (T, bot left) @ Cloud Kingdom @4:02 changes the path of a scouting marine to attack an incoming overlord. looks at it through fow (but it's right next to the marine). @5:20 splits marines before trying to kill overlord at natural before seeing it (common place for ovis). @8:05 sends marine to scout on the left side intercept a overlord from the xel naga. also sends a marine around the right side of map which catches another overlord at 9:08. (solid move) @11:42 starts up turrents around his base, just as spire starts, only having scouted an infestation pit. also getting turret range. @14:30 gets double reactored starport pumping 4 vikings at a time after greater spire starts. no scouting info on whether hive is even done. @16:50 moves out killing the fourth under the third and moves back as broods are approaching, not scanning once. @17:50 scans the infestors midmap randomly and moves out to kill the approaching broods (seperated from infestors) he had no vision of. @20:49 has 4 banshees at the bottom left plateu of rcgs main with no support, corruptors shooting at them. sends them over to attack the greater spire he had never scouted. @21:50 starts banshee prodcution back up, ultra on the way (but he killed the greater spire). @22:34 looks into fog of war at infestors midmap. @23:30 sieges up right before, and then scans rcg as he attacks the fourth attacks him. @24:24 lifts depots at his natural as rcg is moving around (but he saw rcg move towards the upper xel naga tower with his vision tower). @25:37 starts up turrets as he reestablishes his fourth as rcg is making a suprise round of muta (common to build turrets outside your fourth). @26:10 scans right on rcgs army outside his fourth i think there's a disparity between the skill shown to make these decisions and SCAedges general gameplay (unless you want to chalk it up to luck). overall i'd say this replay is suspicious and i'd like to see more of his replays. as for 'shooting overlord without vision' mentioned in the reddit thread, the overlord is on the edge of the cliff, in vision before it disappears and SCAedge has to scan. If he was hacking, why would he make missile turrets against what is obviously a hive + greater spire transition? I think the far more obvious explanation is that he's just a random player doing random things blindly / stupidly
at the time he didn't know there was a hive greater spire transition, actually he had no scouting intel at all besides seeing an infestation pit! the spire was also started way before hive, at that time you can't be sure wether or not he's making muta if you were hacking. and finally judging by his play i'm not convinced he would be able to make the right decisions even given all the intel.
i think it's too early to say anything conclusively, but i'd love to see more replays. as i said, i think the previous one was suspicious.
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On October 02 2012 10:56 nunez wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2012 10:28 RemarK wrote:On October 02 2012 10:17 nunez wrote:rcg (Z, top right) vs SCAedge (T, bot left) @ Cloud Kingdom @4:02 changes the path of a scouting marine to attack an incoming overlord. looks at it through fow (but it's right next to the marine). @5:20 splits marines before trying to kill overlord at natural before seeing it (common place for ovis). @8:05 sends marine to scout on the left side intercept a overlord from the xel naga. also sends a marine around the right side of map which catches another overlord at 9:08. (solid move) @11:42 starts up turrents around his base, just as spire starts, only having scouted an infestation pit. also getting turret range. @14:30 gets double reactored starport pumping 4 vikings at a time after greater spire starts. no scouting info on whether hive is even done. @16:50 moves out killing the fourth under the third and moves back as broods are approaching, not scanning once. @17:50 scans the infestors midmap randomly and moves out to kill the approaching broods (seperated from infestors) he had no vision of. @20:49 has 4 banshees at the bottom left plateu of rcgs main with no support, corruptors shooting at them. sends them over to attack the greater spire he had never scouted. @21:50 starts banshee prodcution back up, ultra on the way (but he killed the greater spire). @22:34 looks into fog of war at infestors midmap. @23:30 sieges up right before, and then scans rcg as he attacks the fourth attacks him. @24:24 lifts depots at his natural as rcg is moving around (but he saw rcg move towards the upper xel naga tower with his vision tower). @25:37 starts up turrets as he reestablishes his fourth as rcg is making a suprise round of muta (common to build turrets outside your fourth). @26:10 scans right on rcgs army outside his fourth i think there's a disparity between the skill shown to make these decisions and SCAedges general gameplay (unless you want to chalk it up to luck). overall i'd say this replay is suspicious and i'd like to see more of his replays. as for 'shooting overlord without vision' mentioned in the reddit thread, the overlord is on the edge of the cliff, in vision before it disappears and SCAedge has to scan. If he was hacking, why would he make missile turrets against what is obviously a hive + greater spire transition? I think the far more obvious explanation is that he's just a random player doing random things blindly / stupidly at the time he didn't know there was a hive greater spire transition, actually he had no scouting intel at all besides seeing an infestation pit! the spire was also started way before hive, at that time you can't be sure wether or not he's making muta if you were hacking. and finally judging by his play i'm not convinced he would be able to make the right decisions even given all the intel. i think it's too early to say anything conclusively, but i'd love to see more replays. as i said, i think the previous one was suspicious.
He might of been worried about burrowed infestor harass, so he made missile turrets.
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On October 02 2012 10:47 SCAedge wrote:I'm sorry that I killed 2-3 of your overlord in beginning of game that made you rage. But posting a replay and accusing me of hacking can ruin my reputation as a whole. The overlord position in that map is always identical to most zerg's play. But next time before you accused any body else of maphacking, have a better evidence because it can easily ruins one reputation.
You have suspicious play, and not just the overlords getting picked off. You could provide a replay pack of your recent games if you want, that should clear your name if you don't hack.
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On October 02 2012 11:02 Monochromatic wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2012 10:56 nunez wrote:On October 02 2012 10:28 RemarK wrote:On October 02 2012 10:17 nunez wrote:rcg (Z, top right) vs SCAedge (T, bot left) @ Cloud Kingdom @4:02 changes the path of a scouting marine to attack an incoming overlord. looks at it through fow (but it's right next to the marine). @5:20 splits marines before trying to kill overlord at natural before seeing it (common place for ovis). @8:05 sends marine to scout on the left side intercept a overlord from the xel naga. also sends a marine around the right side of map which catches another overlord at 9:08. (solid move) @11:42 starts up turrents around his base, just as spire starts, only having scouted an infestation pit. also getting turret range. @14:30 gets double reactored starport pumping 4 vikings at a time after greater spire starts. no scouting info on whether hive is even done. @16:50 moves out killing the fourth under the third and moves back as broods are approaching, not scanning once. @17:50 scans the infestors midmap randomly and moves out to kill the approaching broods (seperated from infestors) he had no vision of. @20:49 has 4 banshees at the bottom left plateu of rcgs main with no support, corruptors shooting at them. sends them over to attack the greater spire he had never scouted. @21:50 starts banshee prodcution back up, ultra on the way (but he killed the greater spire). @22:34 looks into fog of war at infestors midmap. @23:30 sieges up right before, and then scans rcg as he attacks the fourth attacks him. @24:24 lifts depots at his natural as rcg is moving around (but he saw rcg move towards the upper xel naga tower with his vision tower). @25:37 starts up turrets as he reestablishes his fourth as rcg is making a suprise round of muta (common to build turrets outside your fourth). @26:10 scans right on rcgs army outside his fourth i think there's a disparity between the skill shown to make these decisions and SCAedges general gameplay (unless you want to chalk it up to luck). overall i'd say this replay is suspicious and i'd like to see more of his replays. as for 'shooting overlord without vision' mentioned in the reddit thread, the overlord is on the edge of the cliff, in vision before it disappears and SCAedge has to scan. If he was hacking, why would he make missile turrets against what is obviously a hive + greater spire transition? I think the far more obvious explanation is that he's just a random player doing random things blindly / stupidly at the time he didn't know there was a hive greater spire transition, actually he had no scouting intel at all besides seeing an infestation pit! the spire was also started way before hive, at that time you can't be sure wether or not he's making muta if you were hacking. and finally judging by his play i'm not convinced he would be able to make the right decisions even given all the intel. i think it's too early to say anything conclusively, but i'd love to see more replays. as i said, i think the previous one was suspicious. He might of been worried about burrowed infestor harass, so he made missile turrets.
the positioning, amount, and the range upgrade(!) leads me to believe they were primarily for muta defense. my point however is that even though it might just as well be "legit" bad play, the replay was supsicious in my eyes and i'd like to see more.
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