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fairymonger
Profile Joined June 2011
United States81 Posts
August 02 2012 03:13 GMT
#1221
Glad to see you still doing the show JP. It's good to hear the storys of gamers. It's going to be really interesting to hear Naniwa's story since everyone says alot of shit about him.
Never give up on your dreams. Without dreams man is nothing
Flossy
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States870 Posts
August 02 2012 03:53 GMT
#1222
omggggggggg Nani!!!!! Didn't see this one coming
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corpuscle
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States1967 Posts
August 02 2012 03:55 GMT
#1223
Really awesome to hear Naniwa's side of things, he really puts a lot of stuff in perspective and shows a lot of class. Definitely the best episode so far, keep them up.
From the void I am born into wave and particle
ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
August 02 2012 03:59 GMT
#1224
Real talk is so good, that's the best thing you've come up with by far, JP. Looks like all those connections you made those past few years paid off.
Real enjoyable, more like :D
Resilient
Profile Joined June 2010
United Kingdom1431 Posts
August 02 2012 04:05 GMT
#1225
Pretty interesting episode, seems pretty obvious Naniwa wants to return to dignitas, which is strange.

As I understood it, he first left Dignitas because of financial reasons, which Dignitas could not meet, thus leading to his pickup by coL.
He did well in coL and asked for a sarary raise(?) or a bonus for doing well, but got rejected, thus he left once again for financial reasons.
Now (if im reading the implications right) he wants to wait a few months for the opportunity to return to Dignitas.....which would complete the circle, but would require them to present a larger salary which was declined in the first place a year ago?

Correct?
Erik.TheRed
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1655 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-02 05:54:11
August 02 2012 04:15 GMT
#1226
Naniwa comes across as a really honest and down-to-earth guy. I'm glad he took the time to speak with the JP and the community because his media attention has largely been other people's thoughts/rumors/drama for the last year or so and it seemed to be getting blown out of proportion. Idra's comments about Nani "burning every bridge"/"being gone from esports soon" are certainly not fitting into the story that nani has described today, so it's nice to see the other side to those claims.

Good luck nani, hopefully you get on that dream-team and hit Ro4 next season
"See you space cowboy"
Theovide
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden914 Posts
August 02 2012 04:36 GMT
#1227
On August 02 2012 13:05 Resilient wrote:
Pretty interesting episode, seems pretty obvious Naniwa wants to return to dignitas, which is strange.

As I understood it, he first left Dignitas because of financial reasons, which Dignitas could not meet, thus leading to his pickup by coL.
He did well in coL and asked for a sarary raise(?) or a bonus for doing well, but got rejected, thus he left once again for financial reasons.
Now (if im reading the implications right) he wants to wait a few months for the opportunity to return to Dignitas.....which would complete the circle, but would require them to present a larger salary which was declined in the first place a year ago?

Correct?

He never said what kind of salary he wanted, just that he had a minimum, and that he'd take the team (most likely Dignitas) as long as they fulfilled that minimum (ie, semeingly undepending on what other teams offers him). Also, afaik, he left coL more due to the fight with Jason Lake, the salary thing was simply what triggered said fight.
Sozai
Profile Joined March 2012
United States27 Posts
August 02 2012 05:14 GMT
#1228
On August 02 2012 13:05 Resilient wrote:
Pretty interesting episode, seems pretty obvious Naniwa wants to return to dignitas, which is strange.

As I understood it, he first left Dignitas because of financial reasons, which Dignitas could not meet, thus leading to his pickup by coL.
He did well in coL and asked for a sarary raise(?) or a bonus for doing well, but got rejected, thus he left once again for financial reasons.
Now (if im reading the implications right) he wants to wait a few months for the opportunity to return to Dignitas.....which would complete the circle, but would require them to present a larger salary which was declined in the first place a year ago?

Correct?


What did he say that gave you the feeling he wanted to go back to Dignitas? I remember him having nothing but love for their manager, but I don't recall him saying anything that made me think he was going to return to the team.
TheEmulator
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
28099 Posts
August 02 2012 05:16 GMT
#1229
Good job with todays episode JP. Naniwa is actually a pretty interesting guy.
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sam05396
Profile Joined April 2011
United States783 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-02 05:25:27
August 02 2012 05:24 GMT
#1230
On August 02 2012 14:14 Sozai wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2012 13:05 Resilient wrote:
Pretty interesting episode, seems pretty obvious Naniwa wants to return to dignitas, which is strange.

As I understood it, he first left Dignitas because of financial reasons, which Dignitas could not meet, thus leading to his pickup by coL.
He did well in coL and asked for a sarary raise(?) or a bonus for doing well, but got rejected, thus he left once again for financial reasons.
Now (if im reading the implications right) he wants to wait a few months for the opportunity to return to Dignitas.....which would complete the circle, but would require them to present a larger salary which was declined in the first place a year ago?

Correct?


What did he say that gave you the feeling he wanted to go back to Dignitas? I remember him having nothing but love for their manager, but I don't recall him saying anything that made me think he was going to return to the team.

besides saying he loves the manager multiple times,"i would love to go back there someday" was a strong hint, also slasher said that dignitas was in the lead for aquiring him if it means anything to you
darthfoley
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States8004 Posts
August 02 2012 05:40 GMT
#1231
as much as naniwa can be a dick, i find it hard not to like him. he's an interesting person to say the least
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8mmspikes
Profile Joined January 2012
United States1704 Posts
August 02 2012 05:41 GMT
#1232
Great episode with Naniwa he has my support in everything now! Thanks again for doing this JP~

Also awesome that he mentioned Suppy as an up and comer, cool to see even players like him have taken notice :D
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mierin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4943 Posts
August 02 2012 05:43 GMT
#1233
On August 02 2012 14:40 darthfoley wrote:
as much as naniwa can be a dick, i find it hard not to like him. he's an interesting person to say the least


Pretty much my thoughts...sorry I can't add any more to the discussion.
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DYEAlabaster
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Canada1009 Posts
August 02 2012 05:50 GMT
#1234
On August 02 2012 11:56 Eee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2012 08:03 Mrvoodoochild1 wrote:
On August 02 2012 07:55 crms wrote:
On August 02 2012 07:46 Mrvoodoochild1 wrote:
On August 02 2012 07:19 Hardigan wrote:
On August 02 2012 07:14 Mrvoodoochild1 wrote:
On August 02 2012 06:51 mememolly wrote:
naniwa is a chill dude, MVP not talking to him etc is fucking lame

No Naniwa is the problem. There are plenty of foreigners that practice in Korean team houses, have you ever heard of anything like the ENTIRE TEAM ignoring the player for an entire week? One player disliking someone is one thing but ENTIRE TEAM ignoring you is another. Naniwa is the problem.

I don't think you can prove it that way. You would need to look at other foreign players who were at the MVP house to prove something.

Drewbie and trimaster stayed in the MVP house. I never heard anything from them about being ignored by the whole team. It's just Naniwa.


never heard it, must be true.

I think you're making baseless assumptions and you should stop. We only know one side of the story but we've also heard plenty of other pros going back to BW days about how difficult it can be to live in korean gaming houses.

You should stop, you're coming off as a petty kid with some sort of weird NaNiwa inner hatred.

Drewbie made a 4 20min vlogs of his time in the MVP house. He seemed pretty happy there and never mentioned being ignored or unwelcomed in the videos.

And don't compare BW training houses to Sc2 training houses. They are nothing similar in terms of training regiments.

I am not making baseless claims or have an inner hatred for naniwa. Former managers and teamates have come out and said how terrible naniwa is to deal with. Naniwa is the problem bro.

#1 Naniwa never said MVP was the problem
#2 Trimaster and Drewbie stayed there for a lot less time then naniwa (I think drewbie technically only stayed there for two weeks as he was at GOM house during the Korean hollydays)
#3 The difference between American culture and Swedish culture is probably as big as the difference between Korean and Swedish one.
#4 SaSe recently said exactly the same things as naniwa, but about the startale house as well, he said it was some cultural thing that you never mention what the other person has done wrong but you the group as a whole still gets upset at you for it. Would imply that he's the problem in this case as well?
#5 Your welcome to show us your source on how bw teamhouses differ from sc2 teamhouses.


I agree with you in all things you said, but I will dirrect you to the source you asked for:

Idra talked about it on his Real Talk about how different the Estro house is from the Slayers house (and did so in multiple interviews on the case), repeatedly stating that Slayers is much much much better and looser than Estro was.
Imbu
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States903 Posts
August 02 2012 05:51 GMT
#1235
On August 02 2012 14:43 mierin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2012 14:40 darthfoley wrote:
as much as naniwa can be a dick, i find it hard not to like him. he's an interesting person to say the least


Pretty much my thoughts...sorry I can't add any more to the discussion.

I have to agree with this too. I remember Rotterdam constantly mentioning that the Naniwa that was portrayed and the Naniwa that he knew were completely different people, and this Real Talk really showed that difference.

Real talk is such an awesome series that puts an human face on so many players and personalities. To me for the longest time, I just saw that players as people operating the game, not as people working towards their dream. Looking forward to more Naniwa success stories.
@DreamingBird
DSP
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden81 Posts
August 02 2012 06:09 GMT
#1236
Great episode! Probably my favorite so far
kochanfe
Profile Joined July 2011
Micronesia1338 Posts
August 02 2012 06:12 GMT
#1237
NaNiwa sooooo awesome!
"The flame that burns twice as bright burns half as long." - Lao Tzu
Neelia
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany599 Posts
August 02 2012 06:12 GMT
#1238
On August 02 2012 12:55 corpuscle wrote:
Really awesome to hear Naniwa's side of things, he really puts a lot of stuff in perspective and shows a lot of class. Definitely the best episode so far, keep them up.


Could not agree more. Also super happy he didn't go down on the level of some other guests and shittalked them like they did to him
Sozai
Profile Joined March 2012
United States27 Posts
August 02 2012 06:19 GMT
#1239
On August 02 2012 14:24 sam05396 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2012 14:14 Sozai wrote:
On August 02 2012 13:05 Resilient wrote:
Pretty interesting episode, seems pretty obvious Naniwa wants to return to dignitas, which is strange.

As I understood it, he first left Dignitas because of financial reasons, which Dignitas could not meet, thus leading to his pickup by coL.
He did well in coL and asked for a sarary raise(?) or a bonus for doing well, but got rejected, thus he left once again for financial reasons.
Now (if im reading the implications right) he wants to wait a few months for the opportunity to return to Dignitas.....which would complete the circle, but would require them to present a larger salary which was declined in the first place a year ago?

Correct?


What did he say that gave you the feeling he wanted to go back to Dignitas? I remember him having nothing but love for their manager, but I don't recall him saying anything that made me think he was going to return to the team.

besides saying he loves the manager multiple times,"i would love to go back there someday" was a strong hint, also slasher said that dignitas was in the lead for aquiring him if it means anything to you



Ah, I was listening to the interview but sort off drifting in and out of it. I must have missed that line where he said he would love to return.
Uncultured
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1340 Posts
August 02 2012 06:51 GMT
#1240
On August 02 2012 13:05 Resilient wrote:
Pretty interesting episode, seems pretty obvious Naniwa wants to return to dignitas, which is strange.

As I understood it, he first left Dignitas because of financial reasons, which Dignitas could not meet, thus leading to his pickup by coL.
He did well in coL and asked for a sarary raise(?) or a bonus for doing well, but got rejected, thus he left once again for financial reasons.
Now (if im reading the implications right) he wants to wait a few months for the opportunity to return to Dignitas.....which would complete the circle, but would require them to present a larger salary which was declined in the first place a year ago?

Correct?



At the end he says he's not looking for a team for the money, that instead he just wants a very stable place to stay, that will give him what he wants, for the rest of his career.
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