EPTI love how you develop as an interviewer. Great show with Naniwa, my favourite is still with James 2GD
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Sweden1673 Posts
I love how you develop as an interviewer. Great show with Naniwa, my favourite is still with James 2GD | ||
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JazzJackrabbit
Canada1272 Posts
On August 02 2012 09:09 Nimic wrote: Naniwa is a PR genius to come on Realtalk and appear this genuine. Particularly after what has to be fair been some fairly disparaging comments from JP in the past, even connected to the possibility of having Naniwa on. He really came off great. I'm now an even bigger fan. What "disparaging comments" has JP said about him? | ||
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Disposition1989
Canada270 Posts
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Nimic
Norway1360 Posts
On August 02 2012 09:11 JazzJackrabbit wrote: What "disparaging comments" has JP said about him? Come on, do we really need to go over it? He's been involved with it every time the subject of Naniwa has come up on SoTG, like they all have. Particularly after he was set to go on but decided he didn't want to. That's not to say that they haven't been partially right about him, sometimes, but other times it has come off as a bit much. | ||
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nath
United States1788 Posts
On August 02 2012 09:09 Nimic wrote: Naniwa is a PR genius to come on Realtalk and appear this genuine. Particularly after what has to be fair been some fairly disparaging comments from JP in the past, even connected to the possibility of having Naniwa on. He really came off great. I'm now an even bigger fan. its a chess game, and nani plays it well. im not saying he isn't being genuine, but almost no one can be genuine and be successful in his position (see incontrol/all of EG/JP himself/many progamers who 'manner up') i really liked the real talk. even if i dont think nani is being genuine i support him and like him, i am just a cynic (i dont think anyone is genuine) so hating on nani but not others is unfair to me. its very clear that teams didnt like him because he was so successful then asked for more money, they didnt budge, he left, they shit talked him. On August 02 2012 09:11 JazzJackrabbit wrote: What "disparaging comments" has JP said about him? typical canadian/usa answer. (and im from us) | ||
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DeanMalinco
United States43 Posts
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Canucklehead
Canada5074 Posts
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Incomplet
United Kingdom1419 Posts
On August 02 2012 09:53 Canucklehead wrote: Where's the real talk about what caused the naniwa/sase bromance to end? nani pretty much said that they spent too much time together and got sick of each other. He still respects Sase and he thinks that a bit of space between them will patch things up between them. | ||
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Taku
Canada2036 Posts
On August 02 2012 08:03 Mrvoodoochild1 wrote: Drewbie made a 4 20min vlogs of his time in the MVP house. He seemed pretty happy there and never mentioned being ignored or unwelcomed in the videos. And don't compare BW training houses to Sc2 training houses. They are nothing similar in terms of training regiments. I am not making baseless claims or have an inner hatred for naniwa. Former managers and teamates have come out and said how terrible naniwa is to deal with. Naniwa is the problem bro. I take it you weren't around for that shitstorm when Ret had a stint in Korea during his BW days? | ||
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Sylvex
United States127 Posts
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Mioraka
Canada1353 Posts
On August 02 2012 08:39 crms wrote: that which is asserted with no evidence can be dismissed with no evidence. We can all pipe in some cliche words of wisdom, the point remains we don't know the whole story and the guy is being a dick for calling out naniwa multiple times as the 'problem in the team house'. Any reasonable person can see it's probably much more involved. Come on, is this so hard to understand? Naniwa has problems with dealing with people, we all know that already. He has improved A LOT lately, but it's not surprising to me that he had problems with the Koreans. He has had conflicts with a lot of people who even speaks his language, you think he will do better with a drastically different culture in a drastically different environment? I believe what he said about the Koreans ignoring him, but I think the problem probably lies on both sides. Koreans have their way of doing things, if you just blend in and try to be friendly and join them(like Huk), they are going to like you. Yet if you are like Naniwa who's not the best at dealing with people, and who, to put it in the nicest wording, introvert; then you will likely run into conflicts, which will get multiplied by the difficulty of communication. I've always liked Naniwa, and he grew up a lot during these two years of starcraft, but he's still Naniwa. The Naniwa with unbelievable determination, skill, and a difficult-to-deal-with personality. ( which got confirmed even more when he talked about sase...well, at least for me friendship only grows and i never get tired of my BFF lol) TL;DR: It's not his nor MVP's fault that they didn't get alone, or you can say it's both of them's fault. | ||
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JazzJackrabbit
Canada1272 Posts
On August 02 2012 09:16 Nimic wrote: Come on, do we really need to go over it? He's been involved with it every time the subject of Naniwa has come up on SoTG, like they all have. Particularly after he was set to go on but decided he didn't want to. That's not to say that they haven't been partially right about him, sometimes, but other times it has come off as a bit much. He's only involved because he's the host of SOTG. I can't recall JP *himself* saying anything crazy negative about him. IncontroL and IdrA? Of course they have said their fair share of criticism, to say the least. | ||
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lim1017
Canada1278 Posts
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Immer[Forever]
Sweden278 Posts
Just thought I had to clear that out! Because it doesn't translate very well into english. | ||
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Reedjr
United States228 Posts
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GoonFFS
Denmark323 Posts
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KingPaddy
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WigglingSquid
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mierin
United States4943 Posts
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Eee
Sweden2712 Posts
On August 02 2012 08:03 Mrvoodoochild1 wrote: Drewbie made a 4 20min vlogs of his time in the MVP house. He seemed pretty happy there and never mentioned being ignored or unwelcomed in the videos. And don't compare BW training houses to Sc2 training houses. They are nothing similar in terms of training regiments. I am not making baseless claims or have an inner hatred for naniwa. Former managers and teamates have come out and said how terrible naniwa is to deal with. Naniwa is the problem bro. #1 Naniwa never said MVP was the problem #2 Trimaster and Drewbie stayed there for a lot less time then naniwa (I think drewbie technically only stayed there for two weeks as he was at GOM house during the Korean hollydays) #3 The difference between American culture and Swedish culture is probably as big as the difference between Korean and Swedish one. #4 SaSe recently said exactly the same things as naniwa, but about the startale house as well, he said it was some cultural thing that you never mention what the other person has done wrong but you the group as a whole still gets upset at you for it. Would imply that he's the problem in this case as well? #5 Your welcome to show us your source on how bw teamhouses differ from sc2 teamhouses. | ||
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