A combination of styles would be the best. Use ST_Legend as ingame obs, add the dramatic player-shots (at the right time, not during the action please!) from OGN and mix in the MLG PiP mode that they introduced last weekend.

On a related note, I feel that one of the reasons that people consider GSL (and now OGN) observing to be better than that of foreign tournaments is that the Koreans have a dedicated obs, while foreign tournaments, until recently, had one of the casters do the observing. I've noticed myself that when I don't have to talk about the game, I become much better at spotting and following the action. And MLGs observing has gone up considerably since they added Adebisi as dedicated observer.

Deleted User 101379

4849 Posts

May 21 2012 11:36 GMT

#103

On May 21 2012 19:57 Gladiator333 wrote:
OGN-Kespa feels more casual friendly, but I prefer GSL since you can read so much more about the game what's going on.

Legend is so great at showing information, it sometimes feels like _he_ is casting the game without saying anything. Showing little details that the casters miss or clicking on buildings/upgrades when a player forgets or skips an important upgrade right before the player needs it.

Also: Nuke-Zooms :p

v3chr0

United States856 Posts

May 21 2012 11:37 GMT

#104

Wow, GSL observers made a come back, was ~60%ogn to ~30%gom yesterday.

Legend and Heaven keeping up to their names.

awu25

United States2003 Posts

May 21 2012 11:39 GMT

#105

On May 21 2012 20:37 v3chr0 wrote:
Wow, GSL observers made a come back, was ~60%ogn to ~30%gom yesterday.

Legend and Heaven keeping up to their names.

This thread was originally from the BW forum which is why OGN was in such a huge lead

Dzerzhinsky

Scotland327 Posts

May 21 2012 11:58 GMT

#106

I don't like the constant cuts to player's faces. I know what they look like and I don't particularly need to see a close up of their blank faces staring at a computer screen in the middle of a game. If that's important then use small player cams at the bottom like foreign tournaments (and more recently GSL) do, rather than interrupting the flow of the game every few minutes.

vega12

Japan73 Posts

May 21 2012 12:39 GMT

#107

I think both have their merits. I will say that the few times I've tried watching the Korean versions of the VODs on GOM, I prefer their camera work over the English version. But the OGN observers are REALLY spot on. They almost never miss a thing. I watched one SC2 match they did (STX vs Team 8) and there was one point where both the scouting SCV and probe died within a second of each other and the deaths of both were show just in time. It was very smooth.

Mandalor

Germany2362 Posts

May 21 2012 12:50 GMT

#108

I used to like OGN's way to do this, but SPL opening day changed my mind.
Some of the cuts to the player's faces were completely out of place. I don't want to see a player's face at the start of a huge battle. That happened more often than not.
Production tab is a neat feature that helps immensely in terms of reading the game and I feel like it would be stupid not to use it. OGN's observer also almost always had the unit tab instead of the production tab open, which is stupid especially in the early to midgame.

I really like ST_Legend's observing. He barely misses anything, his movement is smooth and he uses the options sc2 gives him greatly without overdoing it.

carloselcoco

United States2302 Posts

May 21 2012 12:58 GMT

#109

The OGN one is much better than any of them. The only thing they are missing IMO is the names up top.
NASL comes pretty close in second place as they are IMO the ones who have the best production quality atm out of anyone out there.

GeNeSiDe

United Kingdom354 Posts

May 21 2012 13:03 GMT

#110

Personally I found that the SC2 portion of proleague were too low quality to bother watching, mainly due to having to listen to korean commentary and the picture quality, though the observing was pretty good IMO, esp for people who just did their first major SC2 broadcast.

However, GOM still takes it, thanks to their 2 years they have invested in the game already. Once the obs for OGN get a bit more experienced in all the obs functions possible with SC2 I think it will be much more even IMO.

Derez

Netherlands6068 Posts

May 21 2012 13:17 GMT

#111

I find the cuts to the players faces to be highly annoying. They always happen after a decisive moment and never actually show anything beyond a guy sitting in a booth. The way its done by other tournaments, showing a picture in picture of the player, is far superior and allows you to see the actual reaction to an engagement instead of the player 30 seconds afterwards. OGN stream quality is dire to a point where if they tried it you still wouldn't see anything tho.

Not to mention the SC2 aren't exactly high quality with a lot going on that could potentially stress observers. It's just easier to observe games where most of the times nothing happens until the one decisive engament (marines stim up ramp, get forcefielded, game is over).

digmouse

China6326 Posts

May 21 2012 13:29 GMT

#112

I dont see much difference between the GSL and OGN obs in SC2, the GSL cast crew are veterans from BW casting, their production method isn't much difference from OGN, also if you did watched the PL opening day games, the OGN casters use production and unit counting tabs too, with wide-screen broadcaster the GSL is even cleaner.
BTW: I hate the bottom overlay of some foreign tournaments (yes looking at you NASL).