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Observer style? Which type do you prefer for SC2?

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baubo
Profile Joined September 2008
China3370 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-20 07:54:45
May 20 2012 07:54 GMT
#1
Probably because I watched BW for too long, but I really like the BW-style observer for SC2 games. I know a lot of things they show can be seen in the top-left tab, but it just seems more natural to follow the observer mouse, as well as not having to move my eyes off the big screen. Plus, the faster paced scene cutting gives more sense of action even during fairly dull moments.

Poll: Which observer style do you prefer?

GSL (314)
 
49%

OGN-Kespa (279)
 
43%

They're all the same to me (23)
 
4%

I don't really care (15)
 
2%

Foreign tournaments(unfortunately not enough of a SC2 viewer to discern difference among them) (11)
 
2%

642 total votes

Your vote: Which observer style do you prefer?

(Vote): GSL
(Vote): Foreign tournaments(unfortunately not enough of a SC2 viewer to discern difference among them)
(Vote): OGN-Kespa
(Vote): They're all the same to me
(Vote): I don't really care

Meh
Taekwon
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8155 Posts
May 20 2012 07:59 GMT
#2
Without a shard of a doubt, OGN.
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Doctorasul
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Romania1145 Posts
May 20 2012 08:10 GMT
#3
Is the question on whether they should use the production or army tabs or is it how fast they click around the map?
"I believe in Spinoza's god who reveals himself in the harmony of all that exists, but not in a god who concerns himself with the fate and actions of human beings." - Albert Einstein
Disregard
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
China10252 Posts
May 20 2012 08:15 GMT
#4
I'm too accustomed and spoiled by OGN-Kespa observers. Frankly, I can do without the production tab in the corner. Just give me the population and resource count, I'm set. But trying to switch from watching BW for all these years to SC2 is gonna take long time... I dont even know counters!
"If I had to take a drug in order to be free, I'm screwed. Freedom exists in the mind, otherwise it doesn't exist."
HwangjaeTerran
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Finland5967 Posts
May 20 2012 08:20 GMT
#5
On May 20 2012 17:15 Disregard wrote:
I'm too accustomed and spoiled by OGN-Kespa observers. Frankly, I can do without the production tab in the corner. Just give me the population and resource count, I'm set. But trying to switch from watching BW for all these years to SC2 is gonna take long time... I dont even know counters!


ha...ha

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the marine


Yea, I like the OGN observing. Production tabs are pretty useless and boring.
It probably gets better once the players get better, we can just blame the half-assed transition league.
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Lucumo
Profile Joined January 2010
6850 Posts
May 20 2012 08:20 GMT
#6
Don't care, I don't watch it.
TiTanIum_
Profile Joined August 2011
Brazil1335 Posts
May 20 2012 08:45 GMT
#7
On May 20 2012 17:20 HwangjaeTerran wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 20 2012 17:15 Disregard wrote:
I'm too accustomed and spoiled by OGN-Kespa observers. Frankly, I can do without the production tab in the corner. Just give me the population and resource count, I'm set. But trying to switch from watching BW for all these years to SC2 is gonna take long time... I dont even know counters!


ha...ha

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the marine


Yea, I like the OGN observing. Production tabs are pretty useless and boring.
It probably gets better once the players get better, we can just blame the half-assed transition league.


That joke was pretty expected. I could guess your league...
ThatGuyDoMo
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Australia516 Posts
May 20 2012 10:10 GMT
#8
OGN Kespa is actually amazing. I have been so impressed with how they have been obsing sc2, it actually looks like more is going on than there would be in a GSL cast.
shaftofpleasure
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Korea (North)1375 Posts
May 20 2012 10:43 GMT
#9
fucking sellouts. -,-

User was temp banned for this post.
It's either the holes of my nose are getting smaller or my fingers are getting bigger. /// Always Rooting for the Underdog. Hyuk/Sin/Jaehoon/Juni/Hyvva/Hoejja/Canata //// Hiding in thread somewhere where BW is still in it's pure form here on TL.
Stratos
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Czech Republic6104 Posts
May 20 2012 11:29 GMT
#10
I don't understand the thread at all. Why is it in the BW forums?
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gillon
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Sweden1578 Posts
May 20 2012 11:52 GMT
#11
Both the OGN and the GSL observers are on a completely different level compared to foreign tourneys.
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pred470r
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Bulgaria3265 Posts
May 20 2012 11:59 GMT
#12
OGN style for it's fast pace.
Luisa_2
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany200 Posts
May 20 2012 12:24 GMT
#13
I honestly like a mix of GSl and OGN
Sometimes i rly wish you had a production tab in BW, but thats about it from the tabs you have in ScII
"Tasteless,why did the Colossus fall over?" "Why?" " Because it was imbalanced"
ThePhan2m
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Norway2751 Posts
May 20 2012 12:29 GMT
#14
its obvious this poll is going to be biased in the bw section...
baubo
Profile Joined September 2008
China3370 Posts
May 20 2012 12:36 GMT
#15
On May 20 2012 20:29 Stratos wrote:
I don't understand the thread at all. Why is it in the BW forums?


I guess more out of habit as I don't think I've ever started a thread in the SC2 section. Someone could make one over there though. BW section these days are kind of a hybrid anyways.
Meh
Angra
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States2652 Posts
May 20 2012 13:28 GMT
#16
What's the GSL/Foreign tournaments style? I haven't really watched much of either so what's the difference between those and the OGN style?
whirlpool
Profile Joined June 2011
2788 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-20 13:36:27
May 20 2012 13:35 GMT
#17
sry wrong thread
fabiano
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Brazil4644 Posts
May 20 2012 13:53 GMT
#18
On May 20 2012 22:28 Angra wrote:
What's the GSL/Foreign tournaments style? I haven't really watched much of either so what's the difference between those and the OGN style?


OGN is awesome, with dramatic close-ups in players faces and the observer never misses any action, the screen is overall cleaner (no unit health bar, no APM bar, no units lost bar, or any other of the useless bars). Cast feels dynamic, especially with such awesome commentators and BW epic crowd.

In GSL they just put on the screen as much shit as they possibly can, they often keep switching those useless bars (APM, units lost, workers lost, etc), they also leave all the units/buildings health bars on all the time. Instead of epic zooms, they just have a static camera in each players face all game long in the HUD. Cast feels static, especially with almost no crowd cheering.
"When the geyser died, a probe came out" - SirJolt
teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
May 20 2012 14:13 GMT
#19
who cares, you can actually use ur own eyes
stlegend catches pretty much everything happening so what more can you expect
Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
May 20 2012 14:21 GMT
#20
Voted for GSL, because I see no big difference between OGN or GSL.

On hindsight, though, I should've voted for the foreigners. Because the screen-in-screen made by MLG is pretty nice, although it's not always perfect.
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