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Balgrog
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States1221 Posts
May 12 2012 19:29 GMT
#1001
Thanks for the interview, this is fantastic! I really hope BW pro's don't get influenced a whole lot by current SC2 pro's and hit the scene with an entirely new style!
The only way to attack structure is with chaos.
Fragile51
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands15767 Posts
May 12 2012 19:36 GMT
#1002
On May 13 2012 04:29 Balgrog wrote:
Thanks for the interview, this is fantastic! I really hope BW pro's don't get influenced a whole lot by current SC2 pro's and hit the scene with an entirely new style!


This is what i'm hoping too, but i don't think that's whats going to happen. They'll just look at what are the cookie cutter builds right now and just practice those 24/7. It's the quickest way to catch up.
MorroW
Profile Joined August 2008
Sweden3522 Posts
May 12 2012 19:39 GMT
#1003
On May 13 2012 04:36 Fragile51 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2012 04:29 Balgrog wrote:
Thanks for the interview, this is fantastic! I really hope BW pro's don't get influenced a whole lot by current SC2 pro's and hit the scene with an entirely new style!


This is what i'm hoping too, but i don't think that's whats going to happen. They'll just look at what are the cookie cutter builds right now and just practice those 24/7. It's the quickest way to catch up.

yep thats exactly how they will do it.
thats basically how the practice worked in sc1 aswell in the pro houses. the B teamers wouldnt often sit and practice new builds or new styles etc and instead justs "copy" generic playstyle or new builds of A teamers. meanwhile the top A players would bring the team forward

once they get code A level of play they will probably innovate as much as other code A and S players
Progamerpls no copy pasterino
Jojo131
Profile Joined January 2011
Brazil1631 Posts
May 12 2012 19:43 GMT
#1004
"I am a complete noob"

"I made (KR) masters league in 4-5 days"

dafuq?
S_SienZ
Profile Joined September 2011
1878 Posts
May 12 2012 19:46 GMT
#1005
On May 13 2012 04:43 Jojo131 wrote:
"I am a complete noob"

"I made (KR) masters league in 4-5 days"

dafuq?

Humility.

Also, could be a relative statement to what he was in Brood War.
501TFX
Profile Joined March 2011
Austria345 Posts
May 12 2012 19:48 GMT
#1006
On May 13 2012 04:43 Jojo131 wrote:
"I am a complete noob"

"I made (KR) masters league in 4-5 days"

dafuq?


Well, I guess he wants to say with this, that, if he wouldn't be a noob, he would've been KR masters league in 1-2 days ;P
No just joking, I guess he has the right mindset, and doesn't think the highest of himself right now, so he actually can improve as quickly as possible.
Never let your dreams fade, run after them, run until you get them !
Steveling
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Greece10806 Posts
May 12 2012 20:01 GMT
#1007
I think the coaches of these bw players need to show them a couple of extremely high end games, MVP's old mech games, games with much multitask from MMA, some vulgarly precise 2base timings from last years MC etc, so they get motivated.
My dick has shrunk to the point where it looks like I have 3 balls.
Moonsalt
Profile Joined May 2011
267 Posts
May 12 2012 20:47 GMT
#1008
Nice interview. I hope he will get used to SC2 pretty fast, and protoss
Darneck
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden1394 Posts
May 12 2012 21:06 GMT
#1009
On May 13 2012 04:43 Jojo131 wrote:
"I am a complete noob"

"I made (KR) masters league in 4-5 days"

dafuq?

He's comparing with being the best of the best. With those standards then yes, he's a noob.
HellionDrop
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
281 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-12 21:08:21
May 12 2012 21:08 GMT
#1010
if flash thinks toss is imba, then i must agree
Vorenius
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Denmark1979 Posts
May 12 2012 21:45 GMT
#1011
Obviously Flash is secretly gonna be playing Zerg in SC2 and is trolling everyone to keep the element of suprise!
Proseat
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Germany5113 Posts
May 12 2012 23:05 GMT
#1012
Somebody refresh my memory: What was basically everyone's reaction when SC2 was announced and people for the first time heard about or saw colossi, forcefields, and warpgate in action?
The Rise and Fall of SlayerS -- a timeline: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?id=378097
Catch]22
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Sweden2683 Posts
May 12 2012 23:11 GMT
#1013
On May 13 2012 00:55 Duka08 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2012 02:17 Clefairy wrote:

We can't not talk about the Season 1 final. How did you feel at the time?
I'm not as affected by losing as people might think. It only makes me angry at the time and then I tend to forget it immediately. I cried because I was touched by the fans, but I'm okay. Even though I lost they all cheered "Lee Young Ho Fighting". I cried because of the fans. It was the first time I felt something like that. Because I prepared very hard and did everything in my power I have no regrets. I accepted defeat.

This gem of a quote has been lost amidst all the SC2 comments and hype. This mindset makes me more excited for more Flash than anything really.

Lee Young Ho fighting


Agreed, this is what makes people like flash goddamn superheroes.
Gosi
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Sweden9072 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-12 23:18:51
May 12 2012 23:16 GMT
#1014
On May 13 2012 08:05 Proseat wrote:
Somebody refresh my memory: What was basically everyone's reaction when SC2 was announced and people for the first time heard about or saw colossi, forcefields, and warpgate in action?

Probably that they are bad designed and shouldn't be in RTS and definitly not in Starcraft.

Now ask pretty much anyone that isn't Protoss with no BW experience what they still think about these things today. I would bet my left nut that the answers will be the same.

* Damnit Noocta. You can't post a picture of Bisu when we are talking about colossi. All I can think of now is that there is no reaver+shuttle play in favour of colossi. And now when Bisu is playing SC2 and all...
[13:40] <Qbek> gosi i dreanmt about you
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-12 23:18:22
May 12 2012 23:16 GMT
#1015
On May 13 2012 08:05 Proseat wrote:
Somebody refresh my memory: What was basically everyone's reaction when SC2 was announced and people for the first time heard about or saw colossi, forcefields, and warpgate in action?


This reaction:
[image loading]

Because when we first saw it, it was shiny and cool, people didn't care about anything else.
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
TheWorldToCome
Profile Joined January 2012
United States452 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-12 23:25:58
May 12 2012 23:22 GMT
#1016
On May 13 2012 01:18 GodZo wrote:
Teamliquid is clearly Terran oriented.


There was actually a survey taken and the majority of TLers play Zerg, then Toss and the least amount of players played Terran.

E: Maybe just Flash oriented
Starcraft 2 was designed to have a best race. You play the worst one.
EmilA
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark4618 Posts
May 12 2012 23:28 GMT
#1017
On May 13 2012 08:05 Proseat wrote:
Somebody refresh my memory: What was basically everyone's reaction when SC2 was announced and people for the first time heard about or saw colossi, forcefields, and warpgate in action?


That marauders were ridiculously overpowered
http://dotabuff.com/players/122305951 playing other games
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8698 Posts
May 12 2012 23:46 GMT
#1018
On May 12 2012 02:30 ch33psh33p wrote:
This makes me really sad.

Its just like MVP said, running two games in parallel, no matter how much you want to see Flash play SC2, is going to cause a deterioriation of skill in both games.


sign, this is the end of high level broodwar or maybe high level starcraft (at least for the next 3 or 4 years). I fear even the last OSL will run at a pretty low skill level compared to before.

Also his wrists are still hurting him.
Adreme
Profile Joined June 2011
United States5574 Posts
May 12 2012 23:48 GMT
#1019
On May 13 2012 08:46 Miragee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2012 02:30 ch33psh33p wrote:
This makes me really sad.

Its just like MVP said, running two games in parallel, no matter how much you want to see Flash play SC2, is going to cause a deterioriation of skill in both games.


sign, this is the end of high level broodwar or maybe high level starcraft (at least for the next 3 or 4 years). I fear even the last OSL will run at a pretty low skill level compared to before.

Also his wrists are still hurting him.


He said it was just part of the recovery process so it should be fine.
Sovern
Profile Joined March 2011
United States312 Posts
May 13 2012 00:02 GMT
#1020
People arguing that SC2 and all of the races are balanced are either lying to themselves or are drinking the "everythings balanced" koolaid. SC2 is not balanced and never will be balanced due to Blizzards game design philsophy that they employed in SC2.

I can completely agree with Flash had to say about Protoss being overpowered, it doesnt take a pro gamer to see that something is imbalanced. If anything, HOTS should be about giving all of the races equal units with different upgrades (that balance each other out) that they can get to make strategy and micro play a bigger role, while making each level of each matchup balanced due to having nearly identical units from all of the races serving the same roles. Each race should also have a creep spread mechanic to further attunete the importance of good macro.
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