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N.geNuity
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States5112 Posts
May 11 2012 20:05 GMT
#321
Of course he says he is a noob; he is comparing himself to progamer status. Pretty much every brood war pro went through at least 1 year of being a practice partner/B teamer before being on their respective A team, so they probably think it will take the same amount of effort to reach A teamer status for sc2.

Also flash is the most humble kid ever. This season when he went like 14-0 before losing his interviews always were "I will work harder; my opponent played well and I got lucky today; luck was on my side; etc etc".
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Valikyr
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden2653 Posts
May 11 2012 20:06 GMT
#322
On May 12 2012 05:03 DemigodcelpH wrote:
Show nested quote +
Interview with Flash wrote:
What are some difficulties for you?
I think there's a problem with the balance. Protoss is overpowered so I hope they balance it out.


Looks like Protoss players can't make excuses anymore or put up smoke screens like "learn to use battlecruisers".

Ahhh denial can only last so long.

While I am a flash fanboi forever you can't seriously take balance complaints seriously from someone who only played the game for a few weeks or even less.
rEalGuapo
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany832 Posts
May 11 2012 20:06 GMT
#323
On May 12 2012 05:03 LuckyMacro wrote:
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On May 12 2012 04:56 rEalGuapo wrote:
I lost so much respect for Flash just by reading this interview.

"I am a total noob"
"I think Protoss is OP"

Either you are a total noob and you should not at all comment on balance, or you are a good player and are just full of shit because the race that does best in tournaments, gets the least buffs because it is stronger than others is the race you chose and suddenly it has to be the worst race.
Congratz.

EG whines enough about imbalance for the rest of the pro players, so they can please stop.


That's just silly.


Great argument, you made a valuably contribution to the discussing, I hope you do not stop breathing for a long time.

Honestly, if I do not understand something I cannot talk about how it works.

-> If I am not a top-top-top player with all races I should not comment on Balance. Day[9] for example could because he was GM with all 3 races and spends a lot of time on analyzing. I would somewhat respect his opinion on balance but not a one-dimensional progamer that spend half a month on SC2.
Chaggi
Profile Joined August 2010
Korea (South)1936 Posts
May 11 2012 20:07 GMT
#324
On May 12 2012 05:06 Valikyr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2012 05:03 DemigodcelpH wrote:
Interview with Flash wrote:
What are some difficulties for you?
I think there's a problem with the balance. Protoss is overpowered so I hope they balance it out.


Looks like Protoss players can't make excuses anymore or put up smoke screens like "learn to use battlecruisers".

Ahhh denial can only last so long.

While I am a flash fanboi forever you can't seriously take balance complaints seriously from someone who only played the game for a few weeks or even less.


who's high masters in korea
which means more than 99% of people posting here
Wallice
Profile Joined February 2011
Norway10 Posts
May 11 2012 20:07 GMT
#325
I'm not sure if I agree with Flash in terms of the balance, I think the game is fairly equal, although protoss has become strong in the current metagame. Sides all balance is gonna get ******d when HotS comes out anyway x.x
Wahuu~
INTOtheVOID
Profile Joined January 2012
United States225 Posts
May 11 2012 20:07 GMT
#326
On May 12 2012 04:59 Tippecanoe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2012 04:56 rEalGuapo wrote:
I lost so much respect for Flash just by reading this interview.

"I am a total noob"
"I think Protoss is OP"

Either you are a total noob and you should not at all comment on balance, or you are a good player and are just full of shit because the race that does best in tournaments, gets the least buffs because it is stronger than others is the race you chose and suddenly it has to be the worst race.
Congratz.

EG whines enough about imbalance for the rest of the pro players, so they can please stop.


I hate people that think just because a race wins a lot its a balance issue. If you are winning vs people of lesser skill a lot it doesnt mean the race you play is imbalanced.



^ THIS.



FlaSh you got me jacked about SoulKey for sc2...his play this proleague was pretty amazing, I wouldn't be surprised if he makes a splash when he switches.

Pink Floyd's music is like a beautiful girl walking down the street who won't talk to you.
ArchDC
Profile Joined May 2011
Malaysia1996 Posts
May 11 2012 20:07 GMT
#327
Too awesome. Need an interview w Jaedong and Bisu too!
][Primarch][
Profile Joined February 2012
Sweden302 Posts
May 11 2012 20:08 GMT
#328
On May 12 2012 05:01 rEalGuapo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2012 04:52 D_K_night wrote:
On May 12 2012 03:26 Kreb wrote:
That just degraded him about 5 levels in my book. Claims hes a noob and still complains about balance like that. Jesus didnt he learn anything about professionalism through all years of BW?


disagree, i feel you are looking for reasons to hate. when he says he's noob, he is being very mannered and humble as hell. he has his right to make balance complaints, because he's already qualified his position in the game.



Well, he says that he is "learning the game" and I am 100% sure that this is accurate, in fact we all are still learning the game even DRG or MVP.
The game is not at all explored and still people complain about Forcefields.

Well guess what, in PvP Archons are becoming very popular because they can break Forcefields.
Now ofcourse using a Thor to break Forcefields would be somewhat micro intensive and it is way more easy to whine and say the race that does by far worst in the professional scene has to be the OP race.

And Forcefields early in the game?
Well, they rely on you messing up your micro/positioning and Protoss very often depends on hitting that one Forcefield in a split second or they are simply dead.

So thank you Flash for finally killing my fanboyism that has built up over the last 8 months or so.
Can concentrate on fanboying HuK and MMA now.


MMA who has been complaing about protoss more than most? You should probably not fanboy him either then?
Huge fan of Empire Kas, The Destroyer of Worlds, The Machine, The Second Terminator, The Supreme Robot!
rEalGuapo
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany832 Posts
May 11 2012 20:08 GMT
#329
On May 12 2012 05:05 Chaggi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2012 05:01 rEalGuapo wrote:
On May 12 2012 04:52 D_K_night wrote:
On May 12 2012 03:26 Kreb wrote:
That just degraded him about 5 levels in my book. Claims hes a noob and still complains about balance like that. Jesus didnt he learn anything about professionalism through all years of BW?


disagree, i feel you are looking for reasons to hate. when he says he's noob, he is being very mannered and humble as hell. he has his right to make balance complaints, because he's already qualified his position in the game.



Well, he says that he is "learning the game" and I am 100% sure that this is accurate, in fact we all are still learning the game even DRG or MVP.
The game is not at all explored and still people complain about Forcefields.

Well guess what, in PvP Archons are becoming very popular because they can break Forcefields.
Now ofcourse using a Thor to break Forcefields would be somewhat micro intensive and it is way more easy to whine and say the race that does by far worst in the professional scene has to be the OP race.

And Forcefields early in the game?
Well, they rely on you messing up your micro/positioning and Protoss very often depends on hitting that one Forcefield in a split second or they are simply dead.

So thank you Flash for finally killing my fanboyism that has built up over the last 8 months or so.
Can concentrate on fanboying HuK and MMA now.


oh
you mean the thor that moves like 50% slower than an archon to break FF's?
yeah i'd love to micro that guy
thanks for the advice


30% so get 2, they are actually really good vs Protoss...

Also, you got medivacs If you play Bio, they can pick up units so that the Forcefields end up hurting the Protoss, I have seen that used a lot a couple of months back, then people stopped doing it because they focused on whining about OP.

Also -> EMP
GeorgeH
Profile Joined January 2012
United Kingdom190 Posts
May 11 2012 20:08 GMT
#330
Interviewer: What is OP about Protoss?
Flash: Everything.

lol'd
gillon
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Sweden1578 Posts
May 11 2012 20:09 GMT
#331
I fucking love you, young ho.
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Chaggi
Profile Joined August 2010
Korea (South)1936 Posts
May 11 2012 20:09 GMT
#332
On May 12 2012 05:07 Wallice wrote:
I'm not sure if I agree with Flash in terms of the balance, I think the game is fairly equal, although protoss has become strong in the current metagame. Sides all balance is gonna get ******d when HotS comes out anyway x.x


Except these are pro gamers who can't and shouldn't wait that long
cause you know, their livelihood kinda depends on it
rEalGuapo
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany832 Posts
May 11 2012 20:09 GMT
#333
On May 12 2012 05:08 ][Primarch][ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2012 05:01 rEalGuapo wrote:
On May 12 2012 04:52 D_K_night wrote:
On May 12 2012 03:26 Kreb wrote:
That just degraded him about 5 levels in my book. Claims hes a noob and still complains about balance like that. Jesus didnt he learn anything about professionalism through all years of BW?


disagree, i feel you are looking for reasons to hate. when he says he's noob, he is being very mannered and humble as hell. he has his right to make balance complaints, because he's already qualified his position in the game.



Well, he says that he is "learning the game" and I am 100% sure that this is accurate, in fact we all are still learning the game even DRG or MVP.
The game is not at all explored and still people complain about Forcefields.

Well guess what, in PvP Archons are becoming very popular because they can break Forcefields.
Now ofcourse using a Thor to break Forcefields would be somewhat micro intensive and it is way more easy to whine and say the race that does by far worst in the professional scene has to be the OP race.

And Forcefields early in the game?
Well, they rely on you messing up your micro/positioning and Protoss very often depends on hitting that one Forcefield in a split second or they are simply dead.

So thank you Flash for finally killing my fanboyism that has built up over the last 8 months or so.
Can concentrate on fanboying HuK and MMA now.


MMA who has been complaing about protoss more than most? You should probably not fanboy him either then?


He plays so incredibly well I don't care what he says, I watched games of him and he did things no other player in the world would ever care to do, just to get slight advantages and he is awesome, also I haven't heard him complain : )
Kilby
Profile Joined August 2010
Finland1069 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-11 20:12:50
May 11 2012 20:10 GMT
#334
On May 12 2012 05:01 Cele wrote:
i love flash as i am a former bw player, but i do think he shouldnt talk to confident about game balance until he grasps the game fully. On another note, i do understand where it comes from. Transitioning from BW and the ways the MU´s work there often means sc2 stuff appears strange up to "obvious op" to you. Before i played sc2 i imagined immortals would be OP vs T for the way the MU worked in bw times. Just giving an example, of how strange some units and abilities must appear when you are not yet used to the game.
On the other hand flash is yet better in sc2, then i will ever be, so who knows (;


I think Flash is a pretty smart guy and he was just talking about the game in general way in a relaxed situation. So he was not giving an official statement about the balance of some specific race but just some random talk instead from a perspective of a new player. And so much of what was said is lost in the translation anyway. So please don't attribute any balance whine threads to Flash just yet.
S_SienZ
Profile Joined September 2011
1878 Posts
May 11 2012 20:10 GMT
#335
On May 12 2012 05:06 rEalGuapo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2012 05:03 LuckyMacro wrote:
On May 12 2012 04:56 rEalGuapo wrote:
I lost so much respect for Flash just by reading this interview.

"I am a total noob"
"I think Protoss is OP"

Either you are a total noob and you should not at all comment on balance, or you are a good player and are just full of shit because the race that does best in tournaments, gets the least buffs because it is stronger than others is the race you chose and suddenly it has to be the worst race.
Congratz.

EG whines enough about imbalance for the rest of the pro players, so they can please stop.


That's just silly.


Great argument, you made a valuably contribution to the discussing, I hope you do not stop breathing for a long time.

Honestly, if I do not understand something I cannot talk about how it works.

-> If I am not a top-top-top player with all races I should not comment on Balance. Day[9] for example could because he was GM with all 3 races and spends a lot of time on analyzing. I would somewhat respect his opinion on balance but not a one-dimensional progamer that spend half a month on SC2.

Oh the irony, the fanboy is strong in this one.

And the whole idea of "pro players should never comment on balance" is silly. If the size of goal posts were doubled you think we won't hear goalkeepers whining about it?
Lorch
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany3711 Posts
May 11 2012 20:10 GMT
#336
On May 12 2012 05:07 Chaggi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2012 05:06 Valikyr wrote:
On May 12 2012 05:03 DemigodcelpH wrote:
Interview with Flash wrote:
What are some difficulties for you?
I think there's a problem with the balance. Protoss is overpowered so I hope they balance it out.


Looks like Protoss players can't make excuses anymore or put up smoke screens like "learn to use battlecruisers".

Ahhh denial can only last so long.

While I am a flash fanboi forever you can't seriously take balance complaints seriously from someone who only played the game for a few weeks or even less.


who's high masters in korea
which means more than 99% of people posting here


Who got masters just based upon his mechanics.
I still wait for the day when people start to realize how unimportant ladderranks are. Also he is one player who has spent the little games he has played in sc2 with terran. He is as much wrong in judging balance as everyone else on this forum.
Firesilver
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom1190 Posts
May 11 2012 20:10 GMT
#337
I don't think people should be taking his comments about balance too seriously, but we will see in the next couple of months whether he still feels this way or not as he gets more used to the game and the match-up.
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Captain Peabody
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3137 Posts
May 11 2012 20:10 GMT
#338
Guys, guys, I think you're missing the big picture here. FLASH is playing SC2.

It's the end of the world, people.
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geokilla
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada8255 Posts
May 11 2012 20:12 GMT
#339
Protoss OP!

Thanks for the interview translations. Looking forward to BW pros coming into the SC2 scene!
][Primarch][
Profile Joined February 2012
Sweden302 Posts
May 11 2012 20:13 GMT
#340
On May 12 2012 05:09 rEalGuapo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2012 05:08 ][Primarch][ wrote:
On May 12 2012 05:01 rEalGuapo wrote:
On May 12 2012 04:52 D_K_night wrote:
On May 12 2012 03:26 Kreb wrote:
That just degraded him about 5 levels in my book. Claims hes a noob and still complains about balance like that. Jesus didnt he learn anything about professionalism through all years of BW?


disagree, i feel you are looking for reasons to hate. when he says he's noob, he is being very mannered and humble as hell. he has his right to make balance complaints, because he's already qualified his position in the game.



Well, he says that he is "learning the game" and I am 100% sure that this is accurate, in fact we all are still learning the game even DRG or MVP.
The game is not at all explored and still people complain about Forcefields.

Well guess what, in PvP Archons are becoming very popular because they can break Forcefields.
Now ofcourse using a Thor to break Forcefields would be somewhat micro intensive and it is way more easy to whine and say the race that does by far worst in the professional scene has to be the OP race.

And Forcefields early in the game?
Well, they rely on you messing up your micro/positioning and Protoss very often depends on hitting that one Forcefield in a split second or they are simply dead.

So thank you Flash for finally killing my fanboyism that has built up over the last 8 months or so.
Can concentrate on fanboying HuK and MMA now.


MMA who has been complaing about protoss more than most? You should probably not fanboy him either then?


He plays so incredibly well I don't care what he says, I watched games of him and he did things no other player in the world would ever care to do, just to get slight advantages and he is awesome, also I haven't heard him complain : )

when he played at IEM in kiev he spoke out against protoss pretty big in an interview and srsly have you seen how his marine-marauder just die to protoss over and over again? The guy can go marine-marauder like a God against terran mech but vs The Protoss LoLball he just rolls over and dies.
Huge fan of Empire Kas, The Destroyer of Worlds, The Machine, The Second Terminator, The Supreme Robot!
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