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MLG and KeSPA Announce Multi-Year Partnership - Page 25

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Da.Frozzy
Profile Joined June 2011
76 Posts
May 11 2012 13:00 GMT
#481
so good, please just let the kespa players play in that foreign championships.

will be a sick event
Mawi
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden4365 Posts
May 11 2012 13:02 GMT
#482
Saw it coming really nice tho, hopefully it will be huge
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JOJOsc2news
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
3000 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-11 13:04:20
May 11 2012 13:02 GMT
#483
On May 11 2012 22:00 Da.Frozzy wrote:
so good, please just let the kespa players play in that foreign championships.

will be a sick event


Kespa players are tied to Kespa and their partners. I don't think you will see a Kespa player at Homestory Cup or IPL etc.

Dreamhack and MLG are cooperating so that might be a possibility and I believe MLG and IEM are in negotiations at the moment but I don't know what that will mean for Kespa players exactly.
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StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
May 11 2012 13:03 GMT
#484
On May 11 2012 21:59 Vonthin wrote:
Real question I want to know is who will be casting sc2 for OGN


The best Korean commentators in the world, albeit they still have to learn the game. That's all that matters to me. :D
FairForever
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada2392 Posts
May 11 2012 13:04 GMT
#485
On May 11 2012 21:54 StarStruck wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2012 21:47 FairForever wrote:
On May 11 2012 21:37 magnaflow wrote:
On May 11 2012 15:30 Bart wrote:
ooo I feel a bit sad for Gom. It's like MLG is the dude and they dumped Gom for the hotter and more "exprienced" Kespa. Maybe cos I joined the bandwagon when SC2 came out and wasn't a fan of SC BW.



More like GOM dumped MLG for the younger hotter IPL and is now watching MLG get married to the hottest girl in Korea, jealosy will ensue.


Yeah, sure some people might not like it, but this is in MLG's best interest. And GOM screwed them over before, sure a lot of us don't like KeSPA but they are a lot more professional than GOM.


I would not call KeSPA more professional than GOM. ._.

They've both made some pretty boneheaded moves in the past.


KeSPA has done a lot of controversial things but they don't leave their partners to hang out to dry (See: Naniwa and Code S Seed). MLG looked like idiots and assholes for promoting something that GOM claimed wasn't true (Code S seed), and came out with a professional response that didn't slaughter GOM. Regardless of what side of the argument you fall on regarding whether Naniwa deserved the seed after the probe rush, GOM's response claiming that no Code S seed was just paperthin and ridiculous.
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-11 13:10:58
May 11 2012 13:05 GMT
#486
On May 11 2012 22:00 Da.Frozzy wrote:
so good, please just let the kespa players play in that foreign championships.

will be a sick event


I don't think this necessarily means the other GOM players cannot compete as long as they pay their own way there or are seeded.

The only exclusivity implied I believe is the fact, KeSPA players at the current moment will only be allowed to attend MLG and DH events.

The only difference here is KeSPA players will get special privileges and I believe MLG will be paying for their flights.

They want to razzle dazzle some of the finest RTS players walking this damn earth.
pestilenz
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Denmark379 Posts
May 11 2012 13:06 GMT
#487
I am just hpoing for the best.. With how KeSPA is/has been, this could be really shitty, but I really hope this is going to work out. I guess we won't see until it happens...
You can attack with this?!
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
May 11 2012 13:06 GMT
#488
On May 11 2012 22:04 FairForever wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2012 21:54 StarStruck wrote:
On May 11 2012 21:47 FairForever wrote:
On May 11 2012 21:37 magnaflow wrote:
On May 11 2012 15:30 Bart wrote:
ooo I feel a bit sad for Gom. It's like MLG is the dude and they dumped Gom for the hotter and more "exprienced" Kespa. Maybe cos I joined the bandwagon when SC2 came out and wasn't a fan of SC BW.



More like GOM dumped MLG for the younger hotter IPL and is now watching MLG get married to the hottest girl in Korea, jealosy will ensue.


Yeah, sure some people might not like it, but this is in MLG's best interest. And GOM screwed them over before, sure a lot of us don't like KeSPA but they are a lot more professional than GOM.


I would not call KeSPA more professional than GOM. ._.

They've both made some pretty boneheaded moves in the past.


KeSPA has done a lot of controversial things but they don't leave their partners to hang out to dry (See: Naniwa and Code S Seed). MLG looked like idiots and assholes for promoting something that GOM claimed wasn't true (Code S seed), and came out with a professional response that didn't slaughter GOM. Regardless of what side of the argument you fall on regarding whether Naniwa deserved the seed after the probe rush, GOM's response claiming that no Code S seed was just paperthin and ridiculous.


Have they ever had any partners?...
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
May 11 2012 13:07 GMT
#489
On May 11 2012 22:04 FairForever wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2012 21:54 StarStruck wrote:
On May 11 2012 21:47 FairForever wrote:
On May 11 2012 21:37 magnaflow wrote:
On May 11 2012 15:30 Bart wrote:
ooo I feel a bit sad for Gom. It's like MLG is the dude and they dumped Gom for the hotter and more "exprienced" Kespa. Maybe cos I joined the bandwagon when SC2 came out and wasn't a fan of SC BW.



More like GOM dumped MLG for the younger hotter IPL and is now watching MLG get married to the hottest girl in Korea, jealosy will ensue.


Yeah, sure some people might not like it, but this is in MLG's best interest. And GOM screwed them over before, sure a lot of us don't like KeSPA but they are a lot more professional than GOM.


I would not call KeSPA more professional than GOM. ._.

They've both made some pretty boneheaded moves in the past.


KeSPA has done a lot of controversial things but they don't leave their partners to hang out to dry (See: Naniwa and Code S Seed). MLG looked like idiots and assholes for promoting something that GOM claimed wasn't true (Code S seed), and came out with a professional response that didn't slaughter GOM. Regardless of what side of the argument you fall on regarding whether Naniwa deserved the seed after the probe rush, GOM's response claiming that no Code S seed was just paperthin and ridiculous.



That's why I said they both have made boneheaded moves. Normally you would see me defending KeSPA on this section of the forums, but to call one better than the other? No sir. I never play favourites.
Aeroplaneoverthesea
Profile Joined April 2012
United Kingdom1977 Posts
May 11 2012 13:08 GMT
#490
On May 11 2012 22:04 FairForever wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2012 21:54 StarStruck wrote:
On May 11 2012 21:47 FairForever wrote:
On May 11 2012 21:37 magnaflow wrote:
On May 11 2012 15:30 Bart wrote:
ooo I feel a bit sad for Gom. It's like MLG is the dude and they dumped Gom for the hotter and more "exprienced" Kespa. Maybe cos I joined the bandwagon when SC2 came out and wasn't a fan of SC BW.



More like GOM dumped MLG for the younger hotter IPL and is now watching MLG get married to the hottest girl in Korea, jealosy will ensue.


Yeah, sure some people might not like it, but this is in MLG's best interest. And GOM screwed them over before, sure a lot of us don't like KeSPA but they are a lot more professional than GOM.


I would not call KeSPA more professional than GOM. ._.

They've both made some pretty boneheaded moves in the past.


KeSPA has done a lot of controversial things but they don't leave their partners to hang out to dry (See: Naniwa and Code S Seed). MLG looked like idiots and assholes for promoting something that GOM claimed wasn't true (Code S seed), and came out with a professional response that didn't slaughter GOM. Regardless of what side of the argument you fall on regarding whether Naniwa deserved the seed after the probe rush, GOM's response claiming that no Code S seed was just paperthin and ridiculous.


KESPA and GOM both make an extremely professional product with zero down time, delay, extremely minimal technical difficulties which are broadcast on television with an appropriate level of professionalism.

All that stuff is leaps and bounds ahead of IPL, Dreamhack, MLG and IEM's which are plagued by delays, sound/video issues, down time and other stuff which would be absurd to see on television.
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-11 13:12:20
May 11 2012 13:08 GMT
#491
On May 11 2012 22:06 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2012 22:04 FairForever wrote:
On May 11 2012 21:54 StarStruck wrote:
On May 11 2012 21:47 FairForever wrote:
On May 11 2012 21:37 magnaflow wrote:
On May 11 2012 15:30 Bart wrote:
ooo I feel a bit sad for Gom. It's like MLG is the dude and they dumped Gom for the hotter and more "exprienced" Kespa. Maybe cos I joined the bandwagon when SC2 came out and wasn't a fan of SC BW.



More like GOM dumped MLG for the younger hotter IPL and is now watching MLG get married to the hottest girl in Korea, jealosy will ensue.


Yeah, sure some people might not like it, but this is in MLG's best interest. And GOM screwed them over before, sure a lot of us don't like KeSPA but they are a lot more professional than GOM.


I would not call KeSPA more professional than GOM. ._.

They've both made some pretty boneheaded moves in the past.


KeSPA has done a lot of controversial things but they don't leave their partners to hang out to dry (See: Naniwa and Code S Seed). MLG looked like idiots and assholes for promoting something that GOM claimed wasn't true (Code S seed), and came out with a professional response that didn't slaughter GOM. Regardless of what side of the argument you fall on regarding whether Naniwa deserved the seed after the probe rush, GOM's response claiming that no Code S seed was just paperthin and ridiculous.


Have they ever had any partners?...


KeSPA have and tried to sell licensing fees to tournaments outside of Korea for their players to compete. That's where Blizzard stepped in and said, "Hey, what the hell you guys think you're doing selling licensing/TV rights?"

._.

That's when Blizzard really started to take notice of exactly what KeSPA was doing.
Eee
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden2712 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-11 13:15:56
May 11 2012 13:12 GMT
#492
On May 11 2012 21:59 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2012 21:56 Frankon wrote:
On May 11 2012 21:54 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
On May 11 2012 21:49 Eee wrote:
On May 11 2012 21:47 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
On May 11 2012 21:35 Linwelin wrote:
On May 11 2012 21:33 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
On May 11 2012 21:30 Linwelin wrote:
If there is exclusivity, then fuck you MLG. Europeans are pretty much screwed since they won't realistically be able to meet their favourite BW players if they ONLY play at MLG and in Korea...
If there isn't exclusivity, then it's pretty good news


Europeans weren't exactly filled with options for meeting our favourite current Koreans. Most of the biggest names (MVP, MMA, DRG, MKP, Nestea, MC) aren't in Europe that often with the exception of MC. Not to mention it's hardly cheap for most Europeans to travel to Germany or Sweden for the weekend and I don't think many people were going to these events anyway who weren't from the country they were in.


Well MMA and Nestea were in Paris like a week ago, remember? Yea koreans are more often in the US but that's not a particularly good argument. Also, traveling to Sweden for a Dreamhack or to Germany for IEM is way easier (and cheaper) than going to the US


You're complaining about this deal denying you something that you never really had in the first place.

If you were regularly shelling out 1000 Euros to go to Sweden from Ireland to see MC then fair enough, this deal might lose you something but I really doubt you or many other people were.

USA costs more than Sweden and Germany sure, but the USA is also a much better place to visit especially over Sweden.

It doesn't cost 1000 Euros to travel from Ireland to sweden, rather 50-60 euros (excl. accommodation)


What? Why would you exclude accomodation. There's no way you're going to get from Ireland to Sweden and back (including taxi/train to the airport in Ireland/Stockholm) pay for three day's accomodation, plus a pass for Dreamhack and food while you are there for less than 600 euros, and that's if you stay somewhere really shitty and eat crappy food and don't see any of Stockholm while you're there.

The Plane tickets also cost way, way more than you said.

https://book.flysas.com/

For example are charging 241 euros for a return trip from Dublin to Stockholm.

You sir are a master at finding overpriced air tickets.


Feel free to find cheap return flights from Dublin to Stockholm for the dates of the next Dreamhack.

64 Euros (46 to stockholm from dublin and 14.7 euro back from stockholm to dublin) you'll arrive two days prior to DH though since the flight of the date of 15th was sold out.

Ryanair.com

Your sir, are dumb. Why would you want to find accomodation in Stockholm for Dreamhack Summer (Which is on the west coast of Sweden, the other side from stockholm). If you're not that picky you could just sleep in the sleeping halls at Dreamhack Summer. And accomodation isn't really that expensive in Jönköping, I could easily make do the travel from Dublin to Jönköping and even not pass the 200 euro mark. Please stop talking shit about things you dont know. T_T

holypalaswe
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden28 Posts
May 11 2012 13:13 GMT
#493
http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/tht60/mlg_and_kespa_announce_exclusive_multiyear/c4mqoj0
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
May 11 2012 13:15 GMT
#494
It might not be as exclusive as you might think guys.
OrganicDoom
Profile Joined March 2011
United States32 Posts
May 11 2012 13:16 GMT
#495
This is just a random guess, but I think it may be a HOTS exhibition match. If it is....OMFG!!!
!!! Zerg Fighting !!!
banzaiib
Profile Joined August 2010
United States53 Posts
May 11 2012 13:17 GMT
#496
“We are pleased to join with MLG to bring the best players in the world to the international stage,” said Lee Young Hee, President of KeSPA


Anyone else find this a bit arrogant? Even if it's true, which is debateable of late... I would love to see Thorzain, Naniwa, or any other "foreigner" mop the floor with Kespa players. (a man can dream can't he?)
soulist
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States932 Posts
May 11 2012 13:17 GMT
#497
On May 11 2012 15:11 Tachion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2012 15:08 MLGAnnouncements wrote:
[marking the first time in eSports history that KeSPA players will participate in video game tournaments in the United States.

...WCG?


but WCG is a Korean based company. I don't think it counts.
Evil Geniuses<3
Aeroplaneoverthesea
Profile Joined April 2012
United Kingdom1977 Posts
May 11 2012 13:18 GMT
#498
On May 11 2012 22:12 Eee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2012 21:59 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
On May 11 2012 21:56 Frankon wrote:
On May 11 2012 21:54 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
On May 11 2012 21:49 Eee wrote:
On May 11 2012 21:47 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
On May 11 2012 21:35 Linwelin wrote:
On May 11 2012 21:33 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
On May 11 2012 21:30 Linwelin wrote:
If there is exclusivity, then fuck you MLG. Europeans are pretty much screwed since they won't realistically be able to meet their favourite BW players if they ONLY play at MLG and in Korea...
If there isn't exclusivity, then it's pretty good news


Europeans weren't exactly filled with options for meeting our favourite current Koreans. Most of the biggest names (MVP, MMA, DRG, MKP, Nestea, MC) aren't in Europe that often with the exception of MC. Not to mention it's hardly cheap for most Europeans to travel to Germany or Sweden for the weekend and I don't think many people were going to these events anyway who weren't from the country they were in.


Well MMA and Nestea were in Paris like a week ago, remember? Yea koreans are more often in the US but that's not a particularly good argument. Also, traveling to Sweden for a Dreamhack or to Germany for IEM is way easier (and cheaper) than going to the US


You're complaining about this deal denying you something that you never really had in the first place.

If you were regularly shelling out 1000 Euros to go to Sweden from Ireland to see MC then fair enough, this deal might lose you something but I really doubt you or many other people were.

USA costs more than Sweden and Germany sure, but the USA is also a much better place to visit especially over Sweden.

It doesn't cost 1000 Euros to travel from Ireland to sweden, rather 50-60 euros (excl. accommodation)


What? Why would you exclude accomodation. There's no way you're going to get from Ireland to Sweden and back (including taxi/train to the airport in Ireland/Stockholm) pay for three day's accomodation, plus a pass for Dreamhack and food while you are there for less than 600 euros, and that's if you stay somewhere really shitty and eat crappy food and don't see any of Stockholm while you're there.

The Plane tickets also cost way, way more than you said.

https://book.flysas.com/

For example are charging 241 euros for a return trip from Dublin to Stockholm.

You sir are a master at finding overpriced air tickets.


Feel free to find cheap return flights from Dublin to Stockholm for the dates of the next Dreamhack.

64 Euros (46 to stockholm from dublin and 14.7 euro back from stockholm to dublin) you'll arrive two days prior to DH though since the flight of the date of 15th was sold out.

Ryanair.com

Your sir, are dumb. Why would you want to find accomodation in Stockholm for Dreamhack Summer (Which is on the west coast of Sweden, the other side from stockholm). If you're not that picky you could just sleep in the sleeping halls at Dreamhack Summer. And accomodation isn't really that expensive in Jönköping, I could easily make do the travel from Dublin to Jönköping and even not pass the 200 euro mark. Please stop talking shit about things you dont know. T_T



The post of someone who's never paid for a holiday in his life.
StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
May 11 2012 13:19 GMT
#499
On May 11 2012 22:17 soulist wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 11 2012 15:11 Tachion wrote:
On May 11 2012 15:08 MLGAnnouncements wrote:
[marking the first time in eSports history that KeSPA players will participate in video game tournaments in the United States.

...WCG?


but WCG is a Korean based company. I don't think it counts.


Do you want a list of events that KeSPA players competed in? o-O

It's documented.
Holytornados
Profile Joined November 2011
United States1022 Posts
May 11 2012 13:21 GMT
#500
AWWWWWW YEAHHHHHHH

Seriously though, that's AWESOME.
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