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DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44810 Posts
May 06 2012 18:54 GMT
#121
Congratulations! Huuuge pick up. Big fan of Oz
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Ryka
Profile Joined October 2010
United Kingdom254 Posts
May 06 2012 18:55 GMT
#122
On May 07 2012 03:53 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2012 03:50 slytown wrote:
So Fnatic has Tod and Oz, maybe the best foreign and korean protosses. Such a sick lineup they ahve.


Tod's nowhere near best foreign protoss I'd say - Huk and Nani at least are probably better. Heck, I reckon White-ra might be better than tod.


White-Ra is an amazing role model no doubt about it, but he's not on the same level as guys like SaSe, ToD, HuK and Naniwa really.

Fnatic seems to have a very strong lineup right now. Looking forward to seeing what Liquid and Fnatic can do in the GSTL. I'd back at least one of them to make it out of their group.
InsidiA
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Canada1169 Posts
May 06 2012 18:55 GMT
#123
Powering up for GSTL
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pallad
Profile Joined September 2010
Poland1958 Posts
May 06 2012 18:56 GMT
#124
Oz Know what is good for him.. Maby Fxo dont wanna send him at tournaments dunno , but he say that...

"The main reason why I decided this transfer is because of the guarantee of my participating in multiple foreign tournaments. In the past, Fnatic's Counter Strike team had attended in many foreign tournaments and I am excited of such numerous attendance of foreign tournaments as well."
SC 2 -LingsLover- EU -- Jaedong , NesTea , Nerchio , DRG , Moon , Oz , Tarson , Scarlett -- Dota 2 Pallad EU- NaVi - LGD
BlueFlames
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany1756 Posts
May 06 2012 18:57 GMT
#125
On May 07 2012 03:47 Apollo_Shards wrote:
Lets hope that aLive and Oz become like HerO and Tajea and improve instead of declining like other Koreans who join foreign teams (ahem JYP, Rain, Puma, Nada, etc).
I am really hoping that their management is as good as Liquid's.


I dont know what you are talking about. Rain is constantly doing well in MLG and other tournaments he enters. Before he went to Fnatic he actually was laughed about as a cheesy noob. Today people respect him as a solid player. He never was MVP or Nestea level, but he is not on the decline. Puma? Look at his liquipedia entries and his successes after he joined EG. And please dont talk about NaDa as if he ever played SC2 seriously. He got by with the little he trained at the start of SC2 because he is NaDa, but players caught up and the competition is way harder now. So no matter where NaDa plays. As long as he doesnt take the game serious and starts training full time, he will never post better results than at the beginning.
onedayclose
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1145 Posts
May 06 2012 18:58 GMT
#126
Great acquisition by Fnatic. Now they have some more experience for GSTL. Oz, Moon, Rain, and aLive will carry this team.
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-06 19:03:19
May 06 2012 18:58 GMT
#127
On May 07 2012 03:54 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2012 03:45 opterown wrote:
On May 07 2012 03:42 GreEny K wrote:
On May 07 2012 03:11 Klonere wrote:
Well this is interesting. FXO couldn't be considered on of the struggling Korean teams who can't pay salary and have bad living conditions. I wonder what prompted this move.....Kinda hope Fnatic aren't going down the WC3 MYM route of just paying big bucks for all the best players.


Actually if you read the OP, Oz wanted to be involved with more foreign events. Something FXO clearly doesn't want to do.


Can't see why FXO can't afford that though, they're pretty well off afaik.


From my viewer's perspective, I like the move because I'll hopefully get to see more of Oz. I hope it benefits him too.. Really dunno about FXO though.


Yeah, I really like Oz (my second fav player) but I'm a bit conflicted as to what to think about it now that he's joined fnatic (one of my less favourite teams) and over this little controversy with hwanni to boot.
I'll probably root for him in individual leagues and for him to all-kill in team leagues hahah

somewhat relevant:


On May 07 2012 03:57 BlueFlames wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2012 03:47 Apollo_Shards wrote:
Lets hope that aLive and Oz become like HerO and Tajea and improve instead of declining like other Koreans who join foreign teams (ahem JYP, Rain, Puma, Nada, etc).
I am really hoping that their management is as good as Liquid's.


I dont know what you are talking about. Rain is constantly doing well in MLG and other tournaments he enters. Before he went to Fnatic he actually was laughed about as a cheesy noob. Today people respect him as a solid player. He never was MVP or Nestea level, but he is not on the decline.


Uhhh, lol. He's still cheesy as heck.
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
TL+ Member
S_SienZ
Profile Joined September 2011
1878 Posts
May 06 2012 18:59 GMT
#128
On May 07 2012 03:57 BlueFlames wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2012 03:47 Apollo_Shards wrote:
Lets hope that aLive and Oz become like HerO and Tajea and improve instead of declining like other Koreans who join foreign teams (ahem JYP, Rain, Puma, Nada, etc).
I am really hoping that their management is as good as Liquid's.


I dont know what you are talking about. Rain is constantly doing well in MLG and other tournaments he enters. Before he went to Fnatic he actually was laughed about as a cheesy noob. Today people respect him as a solid player. He never was MVP or Nestea level, but he is not on the decline. Puma? Look at his liquipedia entries and his successes after he joined EG. And please dont talk about NaDa as if he ever played SC2 seriously. He got by with the little he trained at the start of SC2 because he is NaDa, but players caught up and the competition is way harder now. So no matter where NaDa plays. As long as he doesnt take the game serious and starts training full time, he will never post better results than at the beginning.

I agree. And TaeJa played his Code S games like what... a day after he was announced as Liquid? I highly doubt his joining Liquid had too big of an impact on it other than morale. Guy's always been a sick Terran with horrible draw luck in his past Code S runs.
pallad
Profile Joined September 2010
Poland1958 Posts
May 06 2012 19:02 GMT
#129
On May 07 2012 03:58 opterown wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2012 03:54 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On May 07 2012 03:45 opterown wrote:
On May 07 2012 03:42 GreEny K wrote:
On May 07 2012 03:11 Klonere wrote:
Well this is interesting. FXO couldn't be considered on of the struggling Korean teams who can't pay salary and have bad living conditions. I wonder what prompted this move.....Kinda hope Fnatic aren't going down the WC3 MYM route of just paying big bucks for all the best players.


Actually if you read the OP, Oz wanted to be involved with more foreign events. Something FXO clearly doesn't want to do.


Can't see why FXO can't afford that though, they're pretty well off afaik.


From my viewer's perspective, I like the move because I'll hopefully get to see more of Oz. I hope it benefits him too.. Really dunno about FXO though.


Yeah, I really like Oz (my second fav player) but I'm a bit conflicted as to what to think about it now that he's joined fnatic (one of my less favourite teams) and over this little controversy with hwanni to boot.
I'll probably root for him in individual leagues and for him to all-kill in team leagues hahah


Hwanni is team menager... Every team wanna have the best players.. Its normal.
its simple you like Oz , you dont like Fnatic . Dont blame Hwanni for making his job , like i write he is team menager
SC 2 -LingsLover- EU -- Jaedong , NesTea , Nerchio , DRG , Moon , Oz , Tarson , Scarlett -- Dota 2 Pallad EU- NaVi - LGD
onedayclose
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1145 Posts
May 06 2012 19:02 GMT
#130
On May 07 2012 03:56 pallad wrote:
Oz Know what is good for him.. Maby Fxo dont wanna send him at tournaments dunno , but he say that...

"The main reason why I decided this transfer is because of the guarantee of my participating in multiple foreign tournaments. In the past, Fnatic's Counter Strike team had attended in many foreign tournaments and I am excited of such numerous attendance of foreign tournaments as well."


I saw this coming from FXOpen. Their budget is similar to that of the other korean teams which is quite small. Every time Polt comes home with $ he is essentially funding his way to the next event. I definately see FXOpen focusing on winning GSTL, GSL, and the new OGN leagues.
ArcticRaven
Profile Joined August 2011
France1406 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-06 19:06:16
May 06 2012 19:03 GMT
#131
On May 07 2012 03:10 stickyhands wrote:
fnatic has a really scary line up right now:

Oz
ToD
Moon
aLive
NightEnD
ByuL
Rain


Has departure left the team ?

More on topic : Fnatic fighting ! Hope Oz delivers :D

(Hope that ToD gets better with those sick tosses on his team too <3)
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Canucklehead
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada5074 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-06 19:04:24
May 06 2012 19:04 GMT
#132
This is a blog boss posted 6 months ago that probably foreshadows this move and oz wanting to go to as many foreign tourneys as possible. There's a mention about them scaling back their foreign travel spending on players.

http://fxoboss.tumblr.com/post/11307242898/an-update-on-fxopen-e-sports

Now, whilst I was recovering, the board of FXOpen took over the e-sports operations until recently, and some things have changed.

Firstly, FXOpen e-Sports will only be sending players to events when other sponsors are involved in subsidising the travel. The reason behind this is mostly because it is expensive, e-Sports aren’t our target market for advertising but a completely different business, and on top of that, alot of events prize money does not justify the cost of sending players. This was not a decision of mine, but a decision of the board (I was the only no vote).
Top 10 favourite pros: MKP, MVP, MC, Nestea, DRG, Jaedong, Flash, Life, Creator, Leenock
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
May 06 2012 19:04 GMT
#133
On May 07 2012 04:02 onedayclose wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2012 03:56 pallad wrote:
Oz Know what is good for him.. Maby Fxo dont wanna send him at tournaments dunno , but he say that...

"The main reason why I decided this transfer is because of the guarantee of my participating in multiple foreign tournaments. In the past, Fnatic's Counter Strike team had attended in many foreign tournaments and I am excited of such numerous attendance of foreign tournaments as well."


I saw this coming from FXOpen. Their budget is similar to that of the other korean teams which is quite small. Every time Polt comes home with $ he is essentially funding his way to the next event. I definately see FXOpen focusing on winning GSTL, GSL, and the new OGN leagues.


Once the BW sponsors come over, though, hopefully FXO can step it up and sponsor their guys big time :D Would love to see more tear and the other b-teamers!
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
TL+ Member
Maxtor
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom273 Posts
May 06 2012 19:06 GMT
#134
Thats brilliant, Oz is definitely one of my favourite protoss, and seeing him more often at foreign tournaments is awesome. I initially thought that Fnatic werent looking too strong in gstl with aLive being their heavy hitter but with the acquisition of Oz thats completely changed too.
Chicane
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7875 Posts
May 06 2012 19:08 GMT
#135
Wow this is huge! Oz was no doubt one of FXO's top players... and now they pretty much have no protoss. What a huge hit to their roster... well, congrats to Fnatic.
Moosegills
Profile Joined March 2011
United States558 Posts
May 06 2012 19:08 GMT
#136
Definitely didn't see this coming, congratz to all.
#1 HuK fan, zerg player playing for http://www.complexitygaming.com - @coL_Moosegills
Xoronius
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany6362 Posts
May 06 2012 19:09 GMT
#137
On May 07 2012 03:55 Ryka wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2012 03:53 opterown wrote:
On May 07 2012 03:50 slytown wrote:
So Fnatic has Tod and Oz, maybe the best foreign and korean protosses. Such a sick lineup they ahve.


Tod's nowhere near best foreign protoss I'd say - Huk and Nani at least are probably better. Heck, I reckon White-ra might be better than tod.


White-Ra is an amazing role model no doubt about it, but he's not on the same level as guys like SaSe, ToD, HuK and Naniwa really.


I agree with Nani, HuK and Sase and I could argue about MaNa, BlinG, Grubby, Socke, Feast, NightenD or Hasu as well. But what exactly has ToD done, to put himself above all those names? Did I miss something big? Because the last time I saw him was that game against happy at DH Winter and that didn´t really justify ToD as the top foreign protoss. I don´t know how much he improved in korea, so I don´t want to flame here, I am just honestly asking for your opinion.

On topic: Congratz to Fnatic and Oz.
hangene92
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
Canada258 Posts
May 06 2012 19:09 GMT
#138
Wow, strong and scary line-up from fnatic. Good pick-up.
"You may say I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one"
winthrop
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Hong Kong956 Posts
May 06 2012 19:09 GMT
#139
less powerhouse for FXO
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Luepert
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States1933 Posts
May 06 2012 19:09 GMT
#140
On May 07 2012 03:55 Ryka wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 07 2012 03:53 opterown wrote:
On May 07 2012 03:50 slytown wrote:
So Fnatic has Tod and Oz, maybe the best foreign and korean protosses. Such a sick lineup they ahve.


Tod's nowhere near best foreign protoss I'd say - Huk and Nani at least are probably better. Heck, I reckon White-ra might be better than tod.


White-Ra is an amazing role model no doubt about it, but he's not on the same level as guys like SaSe, ToD, HuK and Naniwa really.

Fnatic seems to have a very strong lineup right now. Looking forward to seeing what Liquid and Fnatic can do in the GSTL. I'd back at least one of them to make it out of their group.



Tod is an amazing role model no doubt about it but he's not on the same level as guys like Nani or Huk.
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