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On May 01 2012 20:27 JamesBourne wrote:Show nested quote +On May 01 2012 20:22 Westy wrote:On May 01 2012 20:20 Tidus Mino wrote:On May 01 2012 20:01 Westy wrote:On May 01 2012 19:41 MinistryOfWin wrote:
That is not true. We are first such initiative in Europe - please do notice that we are not a teamhouse, but more of a training centre remaining open to players from all over the world. We represent a brand new business model, where the players pay the fees themselves. We are not as selective as teamhouses are when in comes to potential house denizens - we are ready to work with any skilled SC2 player and improve his skills greatly while he stays in our house.
That put aside, we are first prohouse in Central Europe, yes. How much would you be charging people? Surprised you have not mentioned that already, as I feel its the most important factor. It was €500 or €550 per person, which is probably why they didn't put it initially, as it'd put a lot of people off but I really hope this works out for everyone involved Per month? ya
Well that seems too expensive. Feels like the only people who this will be available too are people already living close to the area, or people already earning money from gaming.
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Hopefully this will work out nicely with both MoW and the players prospering from this initiative 
Good luck!
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On May 01 2012 20:33 Westy wrote:Show nested quote +On May 01 2012 20:27 JamesBourne wrote:On May 01 2012 20:22 Westy wrote:On May 01 2012 20:20 Tidus Mino wrote:On May 01 2012 20:01 Westy wrote:On May 01 2012 19:41 MinistryOfWin wrote:
That is not true. We are first such initiative in Europe - please do notice that we are not a teamhouse, but more of a training centre remaining open to players from all over the world. We represent a brand new business model, where the players pay the fees themselves. We are not as selective as teamhouses are when in comes to potential house denizens - we are ready to work with any skilled SC2 player and improve his skills greatly while he stays in our house.
That put aside, we are first prohouse in Central Europe, yes. How much would you be charging people? Surprised you have not mentioned that already, as I feel its the most important factor. It was €500 or €550 per person, which is probably why they didn't put it initially, as it'd put a lot of people off but I really hope this works out for everyone involved Per month? ya Well that seems too expensive. Feels like the only people who this will be available too are people already living close to the area, or people already earning money from gaming.
I disagree.500€/month wouldnt be too expensive imo.
At least if thats the only costs that it has (ie. food, driver etc are included and the sleeping arangements arent total crap).
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On May 01 2012 20:33 Westy wrote:Show nested quote +On May 01 2012 20:27 JamesBourne wrote:On May 01 2012 20:22 Westy wrote:On May 01 2012 20:20 Tidus Mino wrote:On May 01 2012 20:01 Westy wrote:On May 01 2012 19:41 MinistryOfWin wrote:
That is not true. We are first such initiative in Europe - please do notice that we are not a teamhouse, but more of a training centre remaining open to players from all over the world. We represent a brand new business model, where the players pay the fees themselves. We are not as selective as teamhouses are when in comes to potential house denizens - we are ready to work with any skilled SC2 player and improve his skills greatly while he stays in our house.
That put aside, we are first prohouse in Central Europe, yes. How much would you be charging people? Surprised you have not mentioned that already, as I feel its the most important factor. It was €500 or €550 per person, which is probably why they didn't put it initially, as it'd put a lot of people off but I really hope this works out for everyone involved Per month? ya Well that seems too expensive. Feels like the only people who this will be available too are people already living close to the area, or people already earning money from gaming.
Too expensive?
What the hell?
Only if you still live with your parents you'll be able to end up with less costs per month. This is what I spend on rent and food in an average month. If the food is included, then it's actually very cheap
Remember that it also includes the driver and the use of a pc. On top of that, living over there is quite cheap and this includes a professional coach around all day.
No holiday that I can think of costs less than 500 euros p/m, this is amazing!
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On May 01 2012 20:52 bblack wrote:Show nested quote +On May 01 2012 20:33 Westy wrote:On May 01 2012 20:27 JamesBourne wrote:On May 01 2012 20:22 Westy wrote:On May 01 2012 20:20 Tidus Mino wrote:On May 01 2012 20:01 Westy wrote:On May 01 2012 19:41 MinistryOfWin wrote:
That is not true. We are first such initiative in Europe - please do notice that we are not a teamhouse, but more of a training centre remaining open to players from all over the world. We represent a brand new business model, where the players pay the fees themselves. We are not as selective as teamhouses are when in comes to potential house denizens - we are ready to work with any skilled SC2 player and improve his skills greatly while he stays in our house.
That put aside, we are first prohouse in Central Europe, yes. How much would you be charging people? Surprised you have not mentioned that already, as I feel its the most important factor. It was €500 or €550 per person, which is probably why they didn't put it initially, as it'd put a lot of people off but I really hope this works out for everyone involved Per month? ya Well that seems too expensive. Feels like the only people who this will be available too are people already living close to the area, or people already earning money from gaming. Too expensive? What the hell? Only if you still live with your parents you'll be able to end up with less costs per month. This is what I spend on rent and food in an average month. If the food is included, then it's actually very cheap Remember that it also includes the driver and the use of a pc. On top of that, living over there is quite cheap and this includes a professional coach around all day. No holiday that I can think of costs less than 500 euros p/m, this is amazing!
I currently live in a one bedroom apartment for around 550 euros per month including foot and internet. The point is, no normal person can afford to pay that much a month without working or without having saved up for a long time. And I doubt anyone will want to give up their job, life, friends just to play SC2 for a month or two in a house with people who are probably worse than them anyways.
I sounds like a great idea and something I would love to do. But without maybe at least half a years worth of saving it just doesn't seem financially viable.
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On May 01 2012 20:52 bblack wrote:Show nested quote +On May 01 2012 20:33 Westy wrote:On May 01 2012 20:27 JamesBourne wrote:On May 01 2012 20:22 Westy wrote:On May 01 2012 20:20 Tidus Mino wrote:On May 01 2012 20:01 Westy wrote:On May 01 2012 19:41 MinistryOfWin wrote:
That is not true. We are first such initiative in Europe - please do notice that we are not a teamhouse, but more of a training centre remaining open to players from all over the world. We represent a brand new business model, where the players pay the fees themselves. We are not as selective as teamhouses are when in comes to potential house denizens - we are ready to work with any skilled SC2 player and improve his skills greatly while he stays in our house.
That put aside, we are first prohouse in Central Europe, yes. How much would you be charging people? Surprised you have not mentioned that already, as I feel its the most important factor. It was €500 or €550 per person, which is probably why they didn't put it initially, as it'd put a lot of people off but I really hope this works out for everyone involved Per month? ya Well that seems too expensive. Feels like the only people who this will be available too are people already living close to the area, or people already earning money from gaming. Too expensive? What the hell? Only if you still live with your parents you'll be able to end up with less costs per month. This is what I spend on rent and food in an average month. If the food is included, then it's actually very cheap Remember that it also includes the driver and the use of a pc. On top of that, living over there is quite cheap and this includes a professional coach around all day. No holiday that I can think of costs less than 500 euros p/m, this is amazing!
Indeed, im looking for an apparment in my university town aorn and if i could find anything with food/electricity/a designated driver for 500€/month id snaptake it.
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Some pros should twitter the link so we get more unlocked content faster
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On May 01 2012 20:56 Westy wrote:Show nested quote +On May 01 2012 20:52 bblack wrote:On May 01 2012 20:33 Westy wrote:On May 01 2012 20:27 JamesBourne wrote:On May 01 2012 20:22 Westy wrote:On May 01 2012 20:20 Tidus Mino wrote:On May 01 2012 20:01 Westy wrote:On May 01 2012 19:41 MinistryOfWin wrote:
That is not true. We are first such initiative in Europe - please do notice that we are not a teamhouse, but more of a training centre remaining open to players from all over the world. We represent a brand new business model, where the players pay the fees themselves. We are not as selective as teamhouses are when in comes to potential house denizens - we are ready to work with any skilled SC2 player and improve his skills greatly while he stays in our house.
That put aside, we are first prohouse in Central Europe, yes. How much would you be charging people? Surprised you have not mentioned that already, as I feel its the most important factor. It was €500 or €550 per person, which is probably why they didn't put it initially, as it'd put a lot of people off but I really hope this works out for everyone involved Per month? ya Well that seems too expensive. Feels like the only people who this will be available too are people already living close to the area, or people already earning money from gaming. Too expensive? What the hell? Only if you still live with your parents you'll be able to end up with less costs per month. This is what I spend on rent and food in an average month. If the food is included, then it's actually very cheap Remember that it also includes the driver and the use of a pc. On top of that, living over there is quite cheap and this includes a professional coach around all day. No holiday that I can think of costs less than 500 euros p/m, this is amazing! I currently live in a one bedroom apartment for around 550 euros per month including foot and internet. The point is, no normal person can afford to pay that much a month without working or without having saved up for a long time. And I doubt anyone will want to give up their job, life, friends just to play SC2 for a month or two in a house with people who are probably worse than them anyways. I sounds like a great idea and something I would love to do. But without maybe at least half a years worth of saving it just doesn't seem financially viable.
Which is why only people who are serious about SC2 will live there, only further reinforcing the reasoning behind its existance - to provide those people with a great training environment. The better the players you practice with, the better you will get. Not only is the environment distraction-free, it's also motivating and stimulating the growth and progress of a person as a player. At the very least it is supposed to, because it all really depends on the people living there.
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yeah €500/month is actually a really good deal. I'd be surprised if any progamer would get by for less living by himself.
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On May 01 2012 21:06 True_Spike wrote:Show nested quote +On May 01 2012 20:56 Westy wrote:On May 01 2012 20:52 bblack wrote:On May 01 2012 20:33 Westy wrote:On May 01 2012 20:27 JamesBourne wrote:On May 01 2012 20:22 Westy wrote:On May 01 2012 20:20 Tidus Mino wrote:On May 01 2012 20:01 Westy wrote:On May 01 2012 19:41 MinistryOfWin wrote:
That is not true. We are first such initiative in Europe - please do notice that we are not a teamhouse, but more of a training centre remaining open to players from all over the world. We represent a brand new business model, where the players pay the fees themselves. We are not as selective as teamhouses are when in comes to potential house denizens - we are ready to work with any skilled SC2 player and improve his skills greatly while he stays in our house.
That put aside, we are first prohouse in Central Europe, yes. How much would you be charging people? Surprised you have not mentioned that already, as I feel its the most important factor. It was €500 or €550 per person, which is probably why they didn't put it initially, as it'd put a lot of people off but I really hope this works out for everyone involved Per month? ya Well that seems too expensive. Feels like the only people who this will be available too are people already living close to the area, or people already earning money from gaming. Too expensive? What the hell? Only if you still live with your parents you'll be able to end up with less costs per month. This is what I spend on rent and food in an average month. If the food is included, then it's actually very cheap Remember that it also includes the driver and the use of a pc. On top of that, living over there is quite cheap and this includes a professional coach around all day. No holiday that I can think of costs less than 500 euros p/m, this is amazing! I currently live in a one bedroom apartment for around 550 euros per month including foot and internet. The point is, no normal person can afford to pay that much a month without working or without having saved up for a long time. And I doubt anyone will want to give up their job, life, friends just to play SC2 for a month or two in a house with people who are probably worse than them anyways. I sounds like a great idea and something I would love to do. But without maybe at least half a years worth of saving it just doesn't seem financially viable. Which is why only people who are serious about SC2 will live there, only further reinforcing the reasoning behind its existance - to provide those people with a great training environment. The better the players you practice with, the better you will get.
I feel like you misread my post. The only people who can really afford to live in this house for longer than a month at a time are people who already live near the area and can keep their current job, or people who just happen to have a lot of money saved up already (I don't know of a single gamer that does). And seeing as it seems as though they will likely be accepting anyone that pays, its highly unlikely you will be playing against players better than yourself.
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On May 01 2012 21:11 Westy wrote:Show nested quote +On May 01 2012 21:06 True_Spike wrote:On May 01 2012 20:56 Westy wrote:On May 01 2012 20:52 bblack wrote:On May 01 2012 20:33 Westy wrote:On May 01 2012 20:27 JamesBourne wrote:On May 01 2012 20:22 Westy wrote:On May 01 2012 20:20 Tidus Mino wrote:On May 01 2012 20:01 Westy wrote:On May 01 2012 19:41 MinistryOfWin wrote:
That is not true. We are first such initiative in Europe - please do notice that we are not a teamhouse, but more of a training centre remaining open to players from all over the world. We represent a brand new business model, where the players pay the fees themselves. We are not as selective as teamhouses are when in comes to potential house denizens - we are ready to work with any skilled SC2 player and improve his skills greatly while he stays in our house.
That put aside, we are first prohouse in Central Europe, yes. How much would you be charging people? Surprised you have not mentioned that already, as I feel its the most important factor. It was €500 or €550 per person, which is probably why they didn't put it initially, as it'd put a lot of people off but I really hope this works out for everyone involved Per month? ya Well that seems too expensive. Feels like the only people who this will be available too are people already living close to the area, or people already earning money from gaming. Too expensive? What the hell? Only if you still live with your parents you'll be able to end up with less costs per month. This is what I spend on rent and food in an average month. If the food is included, then it's actually very cheap Remember that it also includes the driver and the use of a pc. On top of that, living over there is quite cheap and this includes a professional coach around all day. No holiday that I can think of costs less than 500 euros p/m, this is amazing! I currently live in a one bedroom apartment for around 550 euros per month including foot and internet. The point is, no normal person can afford to pay that much a month without working or without having saved up for a long time. And I doubt anyone will want to give up their job, life, friends just to play SC2 for a month or two in a house with people who are probably worse than them anyways. I sounds like a great idea and something I would love to do. But without maybe at least half a years worth of saving it just doesn't seem financially viable. Which is why only people who are serious about SC2 will live there, only further reinforcing the reasoning behind its existance - to provide those people with a great training environment. The better the players you practice with, the better you will get. I feel like you misread my post. The only people who can really afford to live in this house for longer than a month at a time are people who already live near the area and can keep their current job, or people who just happen to have a lot of money saved up already (I don't know of a single gamer that does). And seeing as it seems as though they will likely be accepting anyone that pays, its highly unlikely you will be playing against players better than yourself.
And, again, the vast majority of people who can afford to do so are either able to sustain themselves from playing SC2 already or are backed up by their teams. In both cases, said individuals must already possess a certain skill level. I do not believe rich newbs will swarm the place only because they can afford it.
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On May 01 2012 21:13 True_Spike wrote:Show nested quote +On May 01 2012 21:11 Westy wrote:On May 01 2012 21:06 True_Spike wrote:On May 01 2012 20:56 Westy wrote:On May 01 2012 20:52 bblack wrote:On May 01 2012 20:33 Westy wrote:On May 01 2012 20:27 JamesBourne wrote:On May 01 2012 20:22 Westy wrote:On May 01 2012 20:20 Tidus Mino wrote:On May 01 2012 20:01 Westy wrote:
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How much would you be charging people? Surprised you have not mentioned that already, as I feel its the most important factor.
It was €500 or €550 per person, which is probably why they didn't put it initially, as it'd put a lot of people off but I really hope this works out for everyone involved Per month? ya Well that seems too expensive. Feels like the only people who this will be available too are people already living close to the area, or people already earning money from gaming. Too expensive? What the hell? Only if you still live with your parents you'll be able to end up with less costs per month. This is what I spend on rent and food in an average month. If the food is included, then it's actually very cheap Remember that it also includes the driver and the use of a pc. On top of that, living over there is quite cheap and this includes a professional coach around all day. No holiday that I can think of costs less than 500 euros p/m, this is amazing! I currently live in a one bedroom apartment for around 550 euros per month including foot and internet. The point is, no normal person can afford to pay that much a month without working or without having saved up for a long time. And I doubt anyone will want to give up their job, life, friends just to play SC2 for a month or two in a house with people who are probably worse than them anyways. I sounds like a great idea and something I would love to do. But without maybe at least half a years worth of saving it just doesn't seem financially viable. Which is why only people who are serious about SC2 will live there, only further reinforcing the reasoning behind its existance - to provide those people with a great training environment. The better the players you practice with, the better you will get. I feel like you misread my post. The only people who can really afford to live in this house for longer than a month at a time are people who already live near the area and can keep their current job, or people who just happen to have a lot of money saved up already (I don't know of a single gamer that does). And seeing as it seems as though they will likely be accepting anyone that pays, its highly unlikely you will be playing against players better than yourself. And, again, the vast majority of people who can afford to do so are either able to sustain themselves from playing SC2 already or are backed up by their teams. In both cases, said individuals must already possess a certain skill level.
That's a fair enough point, but if teams have the money to pay their players enough to send them to a different country, why won't they just send them to korea, or start their own team house?
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On May 01 2012 03:29 Fanek wrote:and Matiz as the coach gogo!
this should be pretty awesome ! lets see !
oh and btw - happy bday Fanek  )
ShockeR_40
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On May 01 2012 21:15 Westy wrote:Show nested quote +On May 01 2012 21:13 True_Spike wrote:On May 01 2012 21:11 Westy wrote:On May 01 2012 21:06 True_Spike wrote:On May 01 2012 20:56 Westy wrote:On May 01 2012 20:52 bblack wrote:On May 01 2012 20:33 Westy wrote:On May 01 2012 20:27 JamesBourne wrote:On May 01 2012 20:22 Westy wrote:On May 01 2012 20:20 Tidus Mino wrote:
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It was €500 or €550 per person, which is probably why they didn't put it initially, as it'd put a lot of people off
but I really hope this works out for everyone involved Per month? ya Well that seems too expensive. Feels like the only people who this will be available too are people already living close to the area, or people already earning money from gaming. Too expensive? What the hell? Only if you still live with your parents you'll be able to end up with less costs per month. This is what I spend on rent and food in an average month. If the food is included, then it's actually very cheap Remember that it also includes the driver and the use of a pc. On top of that, living over there is quite cheap and this includes a professional coach around all day. No holiday that I can think of costs less than 500 euros p/m, this is amazing! I currently live in a one bedroom apartment for around 550 euros per month including foot and internet. The point is, no normal person can afford to pay that much a month without working or without having saved up for a long time. And I doubt anyone will want to give up their job, life, friends just to play SC2 for a month or two in a house with people who are probably worse than them anyways. I sounds like a great idea and something I would love to do. But without maybe at least half a years worth of saving it just doesn't seem financially viable. Which is why only people who are serious about SC2 will live there, only further reinforcing the reasoning behind its existance - to provide those people with a great training environment. The better the players you practice with, the better you will get. I feel like you misread my post. The only people who can really afford to live in this house for longer than a month at a time are people who already live near the area and can keep their current job, or people who just happen to have a lot of money saved up already (I don't know of a single gamer that does). And seeing as it seems as though they will likely be accepting anyone that pays, its highly unlikely you will be playing against players better than yourself. And, again, the vast majority of people who can afford to do so are either able to sustain themselves from playing SC2 already or are backed up by their teams. In both cases, said individuals must already possess a certain skill level. That's a fair enough point, but if teams have the money to pay their players enough to send them to a different country, why won't they just send them to korea, or start their own team house?
Because Korea is way more expensive, because most lan tournaments take place in Europe and North America and so flying people in and out of S. Korea is, again, more expensive. Because there's virtually no cultural barrier between the habitants of the european pro house, which eases the tension and makes the entire experience more bearable. Because Korean houses offer terrible living conditions in comparison to this one (which may influence one's decision to even go there in the first place, or stay there for long periods of time). I'm sure there are plenty more reasons I haven't even thought of.
Korea is, no doubt, the ultimate destination for any self-proclaimed progamer, but that doesn't mean there's nothing in-between. The EG house took a shit ton of resources to create and even more to sustain and yet it continues to operate - and not as a business endeavour (like the one we are discussing here), but solely because, apparently, there's a need for it. If other teams are unwilling or unable to pool enough resources of their own to make it happen it doesn't mean they don't recognize the advantages of that kind of training environment. Sending a player or two to an already established facility is definitely the cheaper alternative to starting a pro-house from scratch and then sustaining the entire team for God knows how long.
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On May 01 2012 21:20 True_Spike wrote:Show nested quote +On May 01 2012 21:15 Westy wrote:On May 01 2012 21:13 True_Spike wrote:On May 01 2012 21:11 Westy wrote:On May 01 2012 21:06 True_Spike wrote:On May 01 2012 20:56 Westy wrote:On May 01 2012 20:52 bblack wrote:On May 01 2012 20:33 Westy wrote:On May 01 2012 20:27 JamesBourne wrote:On May 01 2012 20:22 Westy wrote:
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Per month? ya Well that seems too expensive. Feels like the only people who this will be available too are people already living close to the area, or people already earning money from gaming. Too expensive? What the hell? Only if you still live with your parents you'll be able to end up with less costs per month. This is what I spend on rent and food in an average month. If the food is included, then it's actually very cheap Remember that it also includes the driver and the use of a pc. On top of that, living over there is quite cheap and this includes a professional coach around all day. No holiday that I can think of costs less than 500 euros p/m, this is amazing! I currently live in a one bedroom apartment for around 550 euros per month including foot and internet. The point is, no normal person can afford to pay that much a month without working or without having saved up for a long time. And I doubt anyone will want to give up their job, life, friends just to play SC2 for a month or two in a house with people who are probably worse than them anyways. I sounds like a great idea and something I would love to do. But without maybe at least half a years worth of saving it just doesn't seem financially viable. Which is why only people who are serious about SC2 will live there, only further reinforcing the reasoning behind its existance - to provide those people with a great training environment. The better the players you practice with, the better you will get. I feel like you misread my post. The only people who can really afford to live in this house for longer than a month at a time are people who already live near the area and can keep their current job, or people who just happen to have a lot of money saved up already (I don't know of a single gamer that does). And seeing as it seems as though they will likely be accepting anyone that pays, its highly unlikely you will be playing against players better than yourself. And, again, the vast majority of people who can afford to do so are either able to sustain themselves from playing SC2 already or are backed up by their teams. In both cases, said individuals must already possess a certain skill level. That's a fair enough point, but if teams have the money to pay their players enough to send them to a different country, why won't they just send them to korea, or start their own team house? Because Korea is way more expensive, because most lan tournaments take place in Europe and North America and so flying people in and out of S. Korea is, again, more expensive. Because there's virtually no cultural barrier between the habitants of the european pro house, which eases the tension and makes the entire experience more bearable. Because Korean houses offer terrible living conditions in comparison to this one (which may influence one's decision to even go there in the first place, or stay there for long periods of time). I'm sure there are plenty more reasons I haven't even thought of.
Ok, well thats a sufficient list for one half of my question, what about the other? If a team has enough money to pay players rent, why send them off to a house that will most probably have low level players from around the area in it, when they could have their own house full of their own high level players?
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The price is all inclusive of food costs, living costs, driver costs, cleaning and maintenance costs and all other related expenses.
Ministry of Win is all about progress and giving most to players, who will live in our house. We are going to have some excellent players living in MoW, but we are also 100% welcoming towards skilled non-pros who wish to vastly improve their skills. We intend to maintain professional e-sport atmosphere and regime within the house, which will be even better than in traditional team houses.
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I can see this turning into the ultimate bootcamp arena, but having a year-round interest is possibly overambitious. e.g. dignitas sending their players here to bootcamp before the next major international tournament with possible GSL seeds!
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On May 01 2012 21:26 Westy wrote:Show nested quote +On May 01 2012 21:20 True_Spike wrote:On May 01 2012 21:15 Westy wrote:On May 01 2012 21:13 True_Spike wrote:On May 01 2012 21:11 Westy wrote:On May 01 2012 21:06 True_Spike wrote:On May 01 2012 20:56 Westy wrote:On May 01 2012 20:52 bblack wrote:On May 01 2012 20:33 Westy wrote:On May 01 2012 20:27 JamesBourne wrote:
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ya Well that seems too expensive. Feels like the only people who this will be available too are people already living close to the area, or people already earning money from gaming. Too expensive? What the hell? Only if you still live with your parents you'll be able to end up with less costs per month. This is what I spend on rent and food in an average month. If the food is included, then it's actually very cheap Remember that it also includes the driver and the use of a pc. On top of that, living over there is quite cheap and this includes a professional coach around all day. No holiday that I can think of costs less than 500 euros p/m, this is amazing! I currently live in a one bedroom apartment for around 550 euros per month including foot and internet. The point is, no normal person can afford to pay that much a month without working or without having saved up for a long time. And I doubt anyone will want to give up their job, life, friends just to play SC2 for a month or two in a house with people who are probably worse than them anyways. I sounds like a great idea and something I would love to do. But without maybe at least half a years worth of saving it just doesn't seem financially viable. Which is why only people who are serious about SC2 will live there, only further reinforcing the reasoning behind its existance - to provide those people with a great training environment. The better the players you practice with, the better you will get. I feel like you misread my post. The only people who can really afford to live in this house for longer than a month at a time are people who already live near the area and can keep their current job, or people who just happen to have a lot of money saved up already (I don't know of a single gamer that does). And seeing as it seems as though they will likely be accepting anyone that pays, its highly unlikely you will be playing against players better than yourself. And, again, the vast majority of people who can afford to do so are either able to sustain themselves from playing SC2 already or are backed up by their teams. In both cases, said individuals must already possess a certain skill level. That's a fair enough point, but if teams have the money to pay their players enough to send them to a different country, why won't they just send them to korea, or start their own team house? Because Korea is way more expensive, because most lan tournaments take place in Europe and North America and so flying people in and out of S. Korea is, again, more expensive. Because there's virtually no cultural barrier between the habitants of the european pro house, which eases the tension and makes the entire experience more bearable. Because Korean houses offer terrible living conditions in comparison to this one (which may influence one's decision to even go there in the first place, or stay there for long periods of time). I'm sure there are plenty more reasons I haven't even thought of. Ok, well thats a sufficient list for one half of my question, what about the other? If a team has enough money to pay players rent, why send them off to a house that will most probably have low level players from around the area in it, when they could have their own house full of their own high level players?
I edited the post above yours in the meantime. The house most likely won't have any "low level players from around the area" because of the reasons I specified earlier. The ones that can afford it and are willing to train inside the pro-house are the ones that are serious about SC2 and, most likely, possess some degree of skill already. Not to mention that people having a job in the meantime wouldn't be able to adhere to the training schedule because of time constraints. I don't think players will be allowed to do whatever the hell they want once inside, I'm certain some sort of training regime will be established. As for the last part of your question - shades of grey, not black and white, that's how the world is. There are not two kinds of teams out there - either with unlimited resources or without a single penny. If a team can establish its own pro-house and continue to maintain it then it probably will (if it sees any merit in it). Perhaps a team can't afford sustaining its entire team this way, perhaps a team might only want to support a few of its players, perhaps it doesn't want to go through the hassle of creating a pro-house from scratch. Perhaps some teams might not see the point in all this and go for the cheaper alternative instead - one that has never been offered before.
The idea behind this business is neat, because it fills a niche that nobody has filled before - the need for that cheaper alternative I mentioned. With careful planning, proper execution and some luck it just might succeed. Whether it will or not we shall see in some time.
I do wonder, however, what happened with Draco? I heard he was supposed to be the coach (seeing as how he has lots of experience in the matter of pro-houses that would be fantastic). Was it just a rumour or is he indeed a part of the project?
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wow, impressive house and great idea. congratz to all the players that get a spot there.
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well there is some stuff that needs immediate fixing,
1) make the press release text not a 20mb picture lol.
2) the click counter is very easy botable is is possible to get 100k clicks within an hour because there is no protection.
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