EPTStephano extends his break ! - Page 13
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Mario1209
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Fubi
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On April 20 2012 09:07 The_DarkAngelz wrote: Does this news have anything to do with Naniwa code S achievement? maybe he can't stand being behind Nani ! ^^ what u guys think? I don't think it'll be the same for Stephanos, considering the number of Terrans in GSL that are godly against Z and the current state of TvZ; it's like completely opposite for Naniwa, where most of the Terran in GSL is sub-par against Protoss, with current metagame favoring Protoss as well. | ||
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Wrathsc2
United States2025 Posts
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marsh.
Germany16 Posts
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SEA KarMa
Australia452 Posts
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Azarkon
United States21060 Posts
On April 20 2012 09:12 Fubi wrote: I don't think it'll be the same for Stephanos, considering the number of Terrans in GSL that are godly against Z and the current state of TvZ; it's like completely opposite for Naniwa, where most of the Terran in GSL is sub-par against Protoss, with current metagame favoring Protoss as well. Indeed, and this is why using GSL performance as a sole measure of a player's skill level is fallacious. A player's success is a function of the state of the match-ups he plays, and the match-ups aren't 50-50 at every point in time - they vary based on the meta-game. Naniwa is doing well in the GSL now, but he had a horrible record in it just a few months prior. But Naniwa didn't suddenly improve his skill tenfold. No - he got better match-ups this time around, and that is a huge deal when it comes to the GSL, where GSL Code S champions fall out of Code A every other run. | ||
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An2quamaraN
Poland379 Posts
Seriously who needs studies when you can have a life like that. Aren't we all dreaming about doing what we love for life and getting paid for it? I understand the desire to get some educational degree, but there's time for that. And in the end...who will actually care if he went to a university when he will swim in money and travel around the world?  Very happy to hear your decision, hoping for you to put away studies for even10 years. | ||
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shineq
United Kingdom1453 Posts
Stephano, please own some faces in the GSL! :D | ||
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Irave
United States9965 Posts
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Camlito
Australia4040 Posts
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The_Darkness
United States910 Posts
On April 20 2012 07:33 MonkSEA wrote: I don't get why Stephano is all the rave and worshipped so heavily. Don't get me wrong, I'd put him in the top two foreigner with Naniwa easily, but his constant no-shows, his lack of dedication to what basically is his job, and just the general attitude he gives when he does something that is wrong. I'm utterly confused as to why people think his the bees knees, but I guess each to their own. With that being said, I don't think his going to succeed too far in the GSL based on what Koreans have said. He is able to take games and potentially sets, but as most people have stated, once they get used to his play style he'll drop out like he did in the Cup. Now you can say 'oh but he was xx GM in korea' yeah that's cool and all, except for the sole factor that GM means nothing. Everyone knows Stephano is good his mechanics and responses are extremely tight and spot on, but I don't think his style of play will allow him to progress in the GSL as his opponents have an ample amount of time to study Stephano, and as most pro's have said already(which I keep having to repeat since it is so important) once you figure out Stephano's play style his not as big of a threat as if you didn't have any research on him. Once a player can dissect Stephano's play style, and abuse the weakness of Stephano then he'll just drop. Most people in the GSL are on a pro team with a coach who will help analyse players for them and point out weakness in their play, and the weaknesses the player has against the opponent. So pretty much, Stephano is going to show some games where his opponents completely forgot or abstained on researching Stephano thus going to get pulverized, then there's the players that did, and will make it look like a fair match or potentially even one sided in their favour. But I do think it's not far-fetched to say that Stephano has some of the best mechanics right now, I do think it's far-fetched to call him a Code S player despite not actually participating in GSL yet. GSL is a completely different tournament to foreign and online tournaments. Let time speak for itself rather then jumping the gun. I assume you don't watch much starcraft since Stephano's style of ling infestor is the go to build on Antiga and on most other maps for Korean zerg (except for July perhaps). Clearly, if his "style" had been figured out it wouldn't be the go to build in Korea. . . His vP has been the subject of numerous posts and is well known by every Protoss pro in existence. No one has figured it out yet. JYP has the second highest ELO in Korea in zvp (among P) and he's 1-6 against Stephano. Stephano struggled against Squirtle on the ladder and MC a bit. I'm not aware of anyone else who's had consistent success against him. If MC and Stephano played today, I'd take Stephano if you give me even odds.(JYP has better vZ than MC.) His vz allowed him to take a game off Nestea in a bof3 (outplaying him in the one game that advanced to the mid game) and beat Curious (who's probably top 5 in zvz). He's also beaten Zenio (who's top5 in zvz in Korea based on Elo). These are all recent series. Stephano has a million hours of video available for review on Justin.tv. This is to say, if there were something to "figure out" about Stephano, it would already have been done. The only pro of any consequence, other than Idra (who now recognizes Stephano as his lord and savior in vP at least), who said he's going to be figured out was DRG back during the Blizzard Cup. But Nestea, MVP, Polt, MC, etc. have all said he's the best foreigner and MVP, Polt and MKP have all said Stephano could have success in Code S. And, for good measure, I'll note that Polt and MKP both called Stephano a "genius", which is a good description of a guy who has cleaned up but practices around 3 hours a day typically, and a bit more when he streams. Stephano has tremendous upside even though he's already accomplished so much. This is one of the reasons people are so high on him. | ||
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rotegirte
Germany2859 Posts
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Mohdoo
United States15742 Posts
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AC3
Canada337 Posts
On April 20 2012 09:36 The_Darkness wrote: which is a good description of a guy who has cleaned up but practices around 3 hours a day typically Did you listen to his interview on SOTG? He said the 3 hours a day was primarily while he was attending school, QXC asked about this common misconception. Stephano said that since his trip to Korea he practices on average for 8 hours a day. Don't get me wrong, the guy is obviously extremely gifted and talented at this game, but thinking he's only ever put it 3 hours of practice a day is simply not the case. | ||
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JayConn
United States408 Posts
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States45351 Posts
On April 20 2012 06:21 Otolia wrote: First page. Congratulations. But your performance is lackluster and doesn't express enough rage. Remaining challengers to the downer award for being a huge downer : Hall0wed and DarkPlasmaBall. Stay tuned for more pointless criticism ! User was warned for this post I see what you did there  Best of luck to Stephano; I've been saying for a while that I'm hoping he plays in Korea (which would only happen if he decided to play SC2 for a longer period of time), and now we get to see how he fares in the GSL Always happy to see more foreigners and Zergs in Korea ^^ | ||
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Azarkon
United States21060 Posts
On April 20 2012 09:51 AC3 wrote: Did you listen to his interview on SOTG? He said the 3 hours a day was primarily while he was attending school, QXC asked about this common misconception. Stephano said that since his trip to Korea he practices on average for 8 hours a day. Don't get me wrong, the guy is obviously extremely gifted and talented at this game, but thinking his current success is stemming from 3 hours of practice a day is simply not the case. He sure as hell hasn't been practicing 8 hours a day on his accounts. Between Lone Star and MLG, and between MLG and IPL, I don't think he's put in time beyond 2-3 hours a day, unless there's a smurf that nobody knows about. | ||
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Berailfor
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xiaofan
United States513 Posts
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AC3
Canada337 Posts
On April 20 2012 09:57 Azarkon wrote: He sure as hell hasn't been practicing 8 hours a day on his accounts. Between Lone Star and MLG, and between MLG and IPL, I don't think he's put in time beyond 2-3 hours a day, unless there's a smurf that nobody knows about. Thanks for clearing that up, its news to me. I don't follow him too closely so I don't know how much he has been practicing as of late. What I said stems from the question QXC asked in SOTG 65 (question at 39:30), and was more directed to people who think he has never put in more than 3 hours of practice in his whole career. Seeing as before this announcement he was still considering giving up SC2, its not surprising to hear that he wasn't as committed to practicing as he was previously. | ||
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