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On April 18 2012 05:17 Kennigit wrote:Show nested quote +On April 18 2012 05:15 Mrvoodoochild1 wrote: Is there a reason for companies to release their viewership numbers aside from the penis measuring contest between MLG and IPL? As a viewer, I only care about the quality of the product, and knowing that more people are watching does not affect this in any way. Because there is competition obviously. . Healthy or not, it doesn't matter - IPL and MLG are direct competitors. CBSi (which owns gamespot), is a direct competitor of IGN. It's no coincidence that they would partner with MLG 
They definitely are, but I think the market is still far from being saturated.....or at least I hope.
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On April 18 2012 05:22 ChuCky.Ca wrote:Show nested quote +On April 18 2012 05:10 kiy0 wrote: MLG and IPL are not competing. They are both doing their own thing.
User was warned for this post
User was temp banned for this post. sure hes wrong they are competitors but how does that deserve a ban... hmm edited post....
I wonder what MLG will have in store in Anaheim
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On April 18 2012 06:30 Fanek wrote:when is Anaheim? June 8th.
And that's big talk, really big talk. I'll be interested to see how he delivers.
edit: 8th, not 18th.
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That's pretty cool to see how eSports is growing. Hope to see MLG prosper that well, too.
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On April 18 2012 05:42 Antoine wrote:Show nested quote +drew an all-time high of 346,000 peak concurrent online viewers, the largest-ever online viewership for an eSports event held outside of Korea. As I said a few hours ago on twitter, i would be SHOCKED if a chinese event never managed to top 350k, considering numbers i heard just for DIVINA. Basically there's no way this is true, and they should reword it to says non-asian or Western event.
Every event nowdays seems to have record breaking viewer counts. :p
And as people have been saying the viewing figures do seem odd, would like to see a proper breakdown.
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Pretty huge, but I still feel there's a lot of room to improve.
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Great numbers! It's on a good way. As David Ting said himself, there is still a lot of room for growth and improvement.
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On April 18 2012 06:06 PraetorianX wrote: So wait, 346k, is that for one stream (the main stream) or are they adding up all the numbers of the individual streams to get that number?
Do we know if that was during the finals, or semifinals, or what?
It says it's the biggest viewership outside Korea. Does anyone know what number has surpassed that - I'm guessing, some kind of GSL finals?
Probably a PL or OSL finals.
I didn't watch much of IPL and most of my friends didn't either, kind of surprised it got that many viewers. I'm willing to bet 2/3 of the viewers were from league though.
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On April 18 2012 05:17 Kennigit wrote:Show nested quote +On April 18 2012 05:15 Mrvoodoochild1 wrote: Is there a reason for companies to release their viewership numbers aside from the penis measuring contest between MLG and IPL? As a viewer, I only care about the quality of the product, and knowing that more people are watching does not affect this in any way. Because there is competition obviously. https://twitter.com/#!/MLGSundance/status/192344426855661570 . Healthy or not, it doesn't matter - IPL and MLG are direct competitors. CBSi (which owns gamespot), is a direct competitor of IGN. It's no coincidence that they would partner with MLG 
Let's see MLG and IPL trying to throw the bigger event every couple of months, going to be interesting.
Also, best tweet in the history of esports: + Show Spoiler +zaria orakpo @iamhumanhi · Details @MLGSundance not happening there's no cod fag
lol
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On April 18 2012 05:15 Mrvoodoochild1 wrote: Is there a reason for companies to release their viewership numbers aside from the penis measuring contest between MLG and IPL? As a viewer, I only care about the quality of the product, and knowing that more people are watching does not affect this in any way.
As a company looking for more exposure and things to sponsor I would like to know. Sure IPL may approach my company buy when you put numbers out then its like advertising yourself. Its good.
(I don't own a company or anything buy I imagine that's how I'd think)
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I saw less than this number on peak on all streams together and many people have more than one stream open. So the concurrent viewer number must be smaller than the sum of the streams on twitch.
Twitch-tv or IPL have wrong numbers!
At least this nummber is somewhat near the truth. Not like MLG who post the total stream clicks in times where you had to reconnect after each add with addblock, or even add vod viewer to it oO
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On April 18 2012 06:44 Skwid1g wrote:Show nested quote +On April 18 2012 06:06 PraetorianX wrote: So wait, 346k, is that for one stream (the main stream) or are they adding up all the numbers of the individual streams to get that number?
Do we know if that was during the finals, or semifinals, or what?
It says it's the biggest viewership outside Korea. Does anyone know what number has surpassed that - I'm guessing, some kind of GSL finals? Probably a PL or OSL finals. I didn't watch much of IPL and most of my friends didn't either, kind of surprised it got that many viewers. I'm willing to bet 2/3 of the viewers were from league though. Yes probably, just like MLGs number when they had 241k at the one event (that had LoL too, and according to Sundance it had 100k the moment it went online)
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On April 18 2012 06:53 1sz2sz3sz wrote:Show nested quote +On April 18 2012 06:44 Skwid1g wrote:On April 18 2012 06:06 PraetorianX wrote: So wait, 346k, is that for one stream (the main stream) or are they adding up all the numbers of the individual streams to get that number?
Do we know if that was during the finals, or semifinals, or what?
It says it's the biggest viewership outside Korea. Does anyone know what number has surpassed that - I'm guessing, some kind of GSL finals? Probably a PL or OSL finals. I didn't watch much of IPL and most of my friends didn't either, kind of surprised it got that many viewers. I'm willing to bet 2/3 of the viewers were from league though. HAHA They would never have a PL or OSL finals in America And yes probably, just like MLGs number when they had 241k at the one event (that had LoL too, and according to Sundance it had 100k the moment it went online)
Did you even read his post? He was telling the guy what the most viewed esports event in Korea (and by default the world) was, not saying whether or not there is/or should be PL/OSL in America...
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On April 18 2012 06:57 1Eris1 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 18 2012 06:53 1sz2sz3sz wrote:On April 18 2012 06:44 Skwid1g wrote:On April 18 2012 06:06 PraetorianX wrote: So wait, 346k, is that for one stream (the main stream) or are they adding up all the numbers of the individual streams to get that number?
Do we know if that was during the finals, or semifinals, or what?
It says it's the biggest viewership outside Korea. Does anyone know what number has surpassed that - I'm guessing, some kind of GSL finals? Probably a PL or OSL finals. I didn't watch much of IPL and most of my friends didn't either, kind of surprised it got that many viewers. I'm willing to bet 2/3 of the viewers were from league though. HAHA They would never have a PL or OSL finals in America And yes probably, just like MLGs number when they had 241k at the one event (that had LoL too, and according to Sundance it had 100k the moment it went online) Did you even read his post? He was telling the guy what the most viewed esports event in Korea (and by default the world) was, not saying whether or not there is/or should be PL/OSL in America...
Yeh my bad I think I mixed his post with something else I read didnt look it over
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On April 18 2012 06:44 Skwid1g wrote:Show nested quote +On April 18 2012 06:06 PraetorianX wrote: So wait, 346k, is that for one stream (the main stream) or are they adding up all the numbers of the individual streams to get that number?
Do we know if that was during the finals, or semifinals, or what?
It says it's the biggest viewership outside Korea. Does anyone know what number has surpassed that - I'm guessing, some kind of GSL finals? Probably a PL or OSL finals. I didn't watch much of IPL and most of my friends didn't either, kind of surprised it got that many viewers. I'm willing to bet 2/3 of the viewers were from league though.
They were. League numbers hit over 200k at one point and averaged right around 150k viewers for the whole tournament.
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This is great news and definitely shows growth.
Compare this with viewership for hockey playoffs this year, a "real" sport. The highest rated game had 576k viewers (source). Obviously there is a long way to go since this was a) the first round of the playoffs and b) a combined number for 2 different games (LoL and SC2), but it can definitely show that e-sports is a great opportunity for sponsors.
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I"m not hating on LoL, but honestly it's one of the worst games to watch. I have more fun watching Counter strike or halo. LoL is so fun, but it's so boring.
IMO, call me bias, Starcraft 2 is one of the best e-sports game ever. there is no game like it.
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I've gone to an IPL/MLG and a couple of NASLs. IPL had the best production quality by FAR. However each event had its own different atmospheres. NASLs were generally smaller and had less things to do during downtime. MLGs seemed more like a general event with lots of areas of interest since there are a lot places to watch and of non-starcraft related attractions. IPL felt like it had the more formal setup. The great venue and the general staff made the event seem a lot more formal as well as the massive hall for the mainstage gave it a more prestigious feeling.
Hopefully each event tries to find its own personality so the viewers can continue getting different experiences from each.
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