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Complaints about moderation and freedom of speech are for the website feedback forums. They will be treated as being off topic and dealt with appropriately.

No more Iron Lady talk, no more gender debate. This is a thread about a StarCraft player. Last I checked what's in between your legs has no impact on how you play the game.

I agree with some of the comments here that the moderation on this thread has been dreadful. It's way too soft. I have gone ahead and simply deleted a bunch of comments that fail TL's community standards. Yes, those standards are determined by the mods. Yes, those standards are not perfect nor even uniformly applied. But we try our best. Spare us your righteous indignation over any notional impairment of free speech. This is a private site. It's a club. There is no "right" to free speech here. We only tolerate quality speech. By who's standards? Ours. Go read the TL Ten Commandments. And if you don't like this policy or our way of running our house, leave. - mensrea
Novalisk
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Israel1818 Posts
April 17 2012 07:50 GMT
#421
Alright Desrow, time to manner up.
/commercial
ROOTFayth
Profile Joined January 2004
Canada3351 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-20 09:45:23
April 17 2012 07:58 GMT
#422
On April 17 2012 10:58 OPL3SA2 wrote:
[Deleted for inappropriate content.]

User was temp banned for this post.

why did this guy get banned?

he hasn't insulted anybody and his post was well written

aren't people allowed to speak their opinion in here?
Fredz
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada36 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-20 09:48:49
April 17 2012 07:59 GMT
#423
[Content deleted for inappropriate content.]


This. I dont understand why TL admins would ban someone who posted this kind of logical and well constructed post. Seeing them ban this guy makes me think this forum is losing its credibility very fast.
J u r i
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada6 Posts
April 17 2012 08:02 GMT
#424
Well Fayth and Fredz are both correct if you look at this article.

Miss Universe Canada disqualifed for being born a man.
day9 is wack and JP has the gayest lissssssssp
Thylacine
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden882 Posts
April 17 2012 08:02 GMT
#425
Can someone answer me? My post is pretty far down at page 21.
What you're looking at could be the end of a particularly terrifying nightmare. It isn't. It's the beginning. Introducing Mr. John Valentine, air traveler. His destination: the Twilight Zone...
gh0un
Profile Joined March 2011
601 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-20 09:50:22
April 17 2012 08:03 GMT
#426
On April 17 2012 16:58 ReignFayth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2012 10:58 OPL3SA2 wrote:


User was temp banned for this post.

why did this guy get banned?

he hasn't insulted anybody and his post was well written

aren't people allowed to speak their opinion in here?


Its not even an opinion. What he wrote down is a fact.
In pretty much every olympic sport, thats the case.

I really dont understand that ban either, makes no sense and makes tl moderators look terrible again.
ROOTFayth
Profile Joined January 2004
Canada3351 Posts
April 17 2012 08:07 GMT
#427
On April 17 2012 17:02 Thylacine wrote:
Can someone answer me? My post is pretty far down at page 21.

of course it is true and what do you mean by "what type" ...
negativedge
Profile Joined December 2011
4279 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-17 08:13:30
April 17 2012 08:09 GMT
#428
Starcraft is not a physical sport. A mtf gains no objective benefit from playing in a women-only tournament like she would (or might, depending on questions I am not qualified to answer) in an MMA fight. Women-only Starcraft tournaments don't exist to even the playing field, they exist to promote talent and provide an environment in which women don't have to constantly deal with the idiotic mysogony of manchildren that too often rears its head in a "normal" tournament setting.
corpuscle
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States1967 Posts
April 17 2012 08:18 GMT
#429
If you're on the fence about whether the mod staff is biased or not, Fayth got temp-banned for shitting on Scarlett in her fanclub thread for saying such lovely things as "I have a dick too why don't I get attention" (paraphrased), and Fredz has gotten temp-banned for basically the same thing (transphobia).
From the void I am born into wave and particle
ROOTFayth
Profile Joined January 2004
Canada3351 Posts
April 17 2012 08:18 GMT
#430
Poker isn't a physical sport either and somehow men fare way better than women

is that only a pure coincidence that the only female who has had impressive results thus far in SC2 was born a man?

I mean I have nothing against her whole mtf thingy, I don't really give a shit, but it's pretty obvious that she has an advantage over females that were born females

User was temp banned for this post.
corpuscle
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States1967 Posts
April 17 2012 08:21 GMT
#431
On April 17 2012 17:18 ReignFayth wrote:
Poker isn't a physical sport either and somehow men fare way better than women

is that only a pure coincidence that the only female who has had impressive results thus far in SC2 was born a man?

I mean I have nothing against her whole mtf thingy, I don't really give a shit, but it's pretty obvious that she has an advantage over females that were born females


so are you a sexist, transphobic, or both?

pick one or both, and then shut the fuck up, because you're an ignorant retard either way.
From the void I am born into wave and particle
ROOTFayth
Profile Joined January 2004
Canada3351 Posts
April 17 2012 08:21 GMT
#432
On April 17 2012 17:18 corpuscle wrote:
If you're on the fence about whether the mod staff is biased or not, Fayth got temp-banned for shitting on Scarlett in her fanclub thread for saying such lovely things as "I have a dick too why don't I get attention" (paraphrased), and Fredz has gotten temp-banned for basically the same thing (transphobia).

jesus christ nobody is transphobic or anything, we were just kidding around, u'd be surprised at who thought it was hilarious too

makes me think of that whole drama around Orb, people were saying he was racist cuz he used the word nigger to insult someone.... like seriously lol
Thylacine
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden882 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-17 09:20:25
April 17 2012 08:23 GMT
#433
On April 17 2012 17:07 ReignFayth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2012 17:02 Thylacine wrote:
Can someone answer me? My post is pretty far down at page 21.

of course it is true and what do you mean by "what type" ...


deleted
What you're looking at could be the end of a particularly terrifying nightmare. It isn't. It's the beginning. Introducing Mr. John Valentine, air traveler. His destination: the Twilight Zone...
corpuscle
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States1967 Posts
April 17 2012 08:24 GMT
#434
On April 17 2012 17:21 ReignFayth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2012 17:18 corpuscle wrote:
If you're on the fence about whether the mod staff is biased or not, Fayth got temp-banned for shitting on Scarlett in her fanclub thread for saying such lovely things as "I have a dick too why don't I get attention" (paraphrased), and Fredz has gotten temp-banned for basically the same thing (transphobia).

jesus christ nobody is transphobic or anything, we were just kidding around, u'd be surprised at who thought it was hilarious too

makes me think of that whole drama around Orb, people were saying he was racist cuz he used the word nigger to insult someone.... like seriously lol


yes, assholes who think the n-word is funny and acceptable in common discourse also think it's okay to throw around insults about scarlett having a penis

I'M SO SHOCKED

this is super off topic and i'll gladly accept my warning/temp ban but this conversation should stop, this thread is about scarlett and her team announcement, not transgender bigotry or whatever.

User was temp banned for this post.
From the void I am born into wave and particle
EffectS
Profile Joined May 2010
Belgium795 Posts
April 17 2012 08:24 GMT
#435
No offense to Eclypsia here but I thought she got offers from Korean teams? If it were me I would pick a Korean team over an international team no matter what the paycheck difference might be.
TEEHEE
deslice
Profile Joined April 2011
Austria37 Posts
April 17 2012 08:24 GMT
#436
girl, i am disappointed !
ROOTFayth
Profile Joined January 2004
Canada3351 Posts
April 17 2012 08:25 GMT
#437
On April 17 2012 17:23 Thylacine wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2012 17:07 ReignFayth wrote:
On April 17 2012 17:02 Thylacine wrote:
Can someone answer me? My post is pretty far down at page 21.

of course it is true and what do you mean by "what type" ...


As I understand a transgender is either a ''biological man with a vagina'' or a ''biological woman with a penis''. So how is it? Because thats what transgender is?

no scarlett was born a man, physically, but felt like a woman inside
Thylacine
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden882 Posts
April 17 2012 08:28 GMT
#438
On April 17 2012 17:25 ReignFayth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2012 17:23 Thylacine wrote:
On April 17 2012 17:07 ReignFayth wrote:
On April 17 2012 17:02 Thylacine wrote:
Can someone answer me? My post is pretty far down at page 21.

of course it is true and what do you mean by "what type" ...


As I understand a transgender is either a ''biological man with a vagina'' or a ''biological woman with a penis''. So how is it? Because thats what transgender is?

no scarlett was born a man, physically, but felt like a woman inside


Ok but I don't think she sounds or looks like a man, does she still have male genital, tho? That's what im wondering
What you're looking at could be the end of a particularly terrifying nightmare. It isn't. It's the beginning. Introducing Mr. John Valentine, air traveler. His destination: the Twilight Zone...
Grumbels
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Netherlands7032 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-17 08:30:53
April 17 2012 08:29 GMT
#439
Scarlett is still the only MtF transgender that's anywhere near good, there are many (maybe 5-6?) quite good other female players even in like the NA GM league. (and Scarlett is only slightly better than all of them, in the grand scheme of things) Unless Fayth means that Scarlett passed some arbitrary skill level that a female player isn't supposed to breach, and therefore her femaleness is in question.

On April 17 2012 17:28 Thylacine wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2012 17:25 ReignFayth wrote:
On April 17 2012 17:23 Thylacine wrote:
On April 17 2012 17:07 ReignFayth wrote:
On April 17 2012 17:02 Thylacine wrote:
Can someone answer me? My post is pretty far down at page 21.

of course it is true and what do you mean by "what type" ...


As I understand a transgender is either a ''biological man with a vagina'' or a ''biological woman with a penis''. So how is it? Because thats what transgender is?

no scarlett was born a man, physically, but felt like a woman inside


Ok but I don't think she sounds or looks like a man, does she still have male genital, tho? That's what im wondering

You can stop wondering as it's none of your business.
Well, now I tell you, I never seen good come o' goodness yet. Him as strikes first is my fancy; dead men don't bite; them's my views--amen, so be it.
x-Catalyst
Profile Joined August 2010
United States921 Posts
April 17 2012 08:31 GMT
#440
On April 17 2012 17:28 Thylacine wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2012 17:25 ReignFayth wrote:
On April 17 2012 17:23 Thylacine wrote:
On April 17 2012 17:07 ReignFayth wrote:
On April 17 2012 17:02 Thylacine wrote:
Can someone answer me? My post is pretty far down at page 21.

of course it is true and what do you mean by "what type" ...


As I understand a transgender is either a ''biological man with a vagina'' or a ''biological woman with a penis''. So how is it? Because thats what transgender is?

no scarlett was born a man, physically, but felt like a woman inside


Ok but I don't think she sounds or looks like a man, does she still have male genital, tho? That's what im wondering

It's not exactly easy for someone to look like the gender they want to, or going through a transformation for that matter. Who cares what she looks or sounds like. And having male genitalia or not isn't anyone's business but her own, imo.
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