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1sz2sz3sz
Andorra173 Posts
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fraktoasters
United States617 Posts
On April 17 2012 01:49 TotalBiscuit wrote: Bullshit. As eSports becomes more popular play-by-play will be required even more. The hardcore who want analysis and nothing but will become marginalised just as they are in any other mainstream sports and that kind of content will be relegated to specialist shows. Cricket is a pretty terrible comparison, try sports like American Football or Soccer where there are plenty of professional commentators that never played the game. This is how it works - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sports_commentator Note the guys in the picture, major Rugby commentators. One of them played at club level, one of them did not play at all, his background was in broadcasting, just like every other play-by-play sports commentator. Just one of many examples of exactly this team. Some of these guys are paid millions a year. I just wanna point out as well that these same comments were being made back in the beta of 2010. "The play by play guys will fade away very soon". It never happened. As more and more people stop laddering (as we've seen by the shrinking number of leagues and active players on a season by season basis), we'll see even more demand for articulate play-by-play/analysis combos rather than hardcore analysis teams. Ex-players are less interested in learning how things work than active players who want to get better at the game. I haven't laddered or taken playing SC2 seriously in months but it still shocks me often when I watch games and the caster seems to know less than me, like not understanding opening builds that have existed for over a year. I don't particularly like having someone explain to me what's happening right in front of me, but whatever, I'm just bummed that nothing has seemed to evolved with casters' knowledge of the game. On April 17 2012 02:15 1sz2sz3sz wrote: Moletrap making the switch before KeSPAs OGN SC2 league kills GOMtv once again and he will be the sole caster for english commentary in korea! and then all my interest in SC2 will be gone for good. On April 17 2012 02:13 Trowa127 wrote: Sigh. As I said before, this forum is disgusting. And its getting worse. WP. Moletrap, do what you enjoy mate and good luck to you. First of all, this is a SC2 forum, buddy. I'm not a very competitive MOBA player, but my friends who are just hate LoL for a lot of things, one of which is lack of different strats. I mean Hon is pretty crappy, and made even crappier by the new heroes they've been making, but I'd still value it over LoL. | ||
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KookyMonster
United States311 Posts
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midftw
Canada170 Posts
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MrCon
France29748 Posts
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zergmacro34
59 Posts
also yeah hopefully TB can be replaced so Apollo will have someone good | ||
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udgnim
United States8024 Posts
On April 17 2012 02:13 thepuppyassassin wrote: Why the hell are we hearing this from Khaldor? It sounds like Moletrap didn't want the news getting out yet from his twitter.. That was a pretty dick move by him. Well it was pretty apparent that they didn't like each other.. still.. there should be a little bit more professional courtesy. while I understand the desire to control information relating to one's self from becoming public, I honestly don't see what Khaldor did that big of a deal it's known that Moletrap hasn't casted a GOM SC2 match in a while and has been casting the OGN LoL games in english I honestly expect Moletrap to also become OGN's english caster for BW/SC2 matches if Proleague changes to that format | ||
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j1nzo
Germany367 Posts
i agree that he is not the best bw or sc2 caster, but we as a community failed on him a lot more than he failed in the casts! all the insults and offendings towards him do not show us as a grown up bunch of sports lovers, but rather as a bunch of immature trolls! there was a time where you could read through the comment section during a vod on gomtv.net without getting spoilers whatsoever. the only topic was that moletrap is this or mt is that. i don't even mind the people who said that they felt his speeding up and pitching up his voice at times seemed fake. i don't mind people who criticized his off comments or him being harsh on players. and i do agree that showing up late to a cast is unprofessional. but insulting people is a no go. tons of threads were created on gom, many had to be closed by gom as they were just opened for offending purposes. the way mt was treated by parts of the community was a disgrace for esports- again criticizing is ok but cussing out people is a no go. at the beginning when he first showed up i didn't like him at all. i skipped many code a games of unknown players at that time and only watched code a or up and down matches when players like mvp, genius, mc and jinro played, due to mt. i even bought the premium ticket without ads to watch the korean code a stream. but after all that bashing, which lasted for almost a year, i started to feel for that guy. after all he went to korea to pursue his dream. if anything you were one of the reasons for me to start learning korean, so i wish you the best of luck for your future noah kalb! 감사합니다! | ||
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Firesilver
United Kingdom1190 Posts
On April 17 2012 02:15 fraktoasters wrote: I haven't laddered or taken playing SC2 seriously in months but it still shocks me often when I watch games and the caster seems to know less than me, like not understanding opening builds that have existed for over a year. I don't particularly like having someone explain to me what's happening right in front of me, but whatever, I'm just bummed that nothing has seemed to evolved with casters' knowledge of the game. So he may seem to know less than you in your opinion, but yet people enjoy his play by play and therefore enjoy his casting. Not everyone enjoys analytical casting and believe it or not you need to have play-by-play casters to compliment the analytical ones. Game knowledge isn't a recipe for a good caster. It's much more complex than that and Husky is a good example, he did not have good knowledge at the start but yet he has bought so many people to this game just because of his Play-by-play commentary. | ||
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mads
Canada90 Posts
On April 17 2012 01:49 TotalBiscuit wrote: Bullshit. As eSports becomes more popular play-by-play will be required even more. The hardcore who want analysis and nothing but will become marginalised just as they are in any other mainstream sports and that kind of content will be relegated to specialist shows. Cricket is a pretty terrible comparison, try sports like American Football or Soccer where there are plenty of professional commentators that never played the game. This is how it works - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sports_commentator Note the guys in the picture, major Rugby commentators. One of them played at club level, one of them did not play at all, his background was in broadcasting, just like every other play-by-play sports commentator. Just one of many examples of exactly this team. Some of these guys are paid millions a year. I just wanna point out as well that these same comments were being made back in the beta of 2010. "The play by play guys will fade away very soon". It never happened. As more and more people stop laddering (as we've seen by the shrinking number of leagues and active players on a season by season basis), we'll see even more demand for articulate play-by-play/analysis combos rather than hardcore analysis teams. Ex-players are less interested in learning how things work than active players who want to get better at the game. Whatever helps you sleep at night man. Even the play-by-play commentators in mainstream sports have a deep understanding of the game. They live and breathe whatever game they commentate on. You, very clearly, do not. I have to mute everything you cast and that's really frustrating. | ||
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TheWarbler
United States1659 Posts
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RunningInSquares
United States215 Posts
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Jojo131
Brazil1631 Posts
On April 17 2012 02:28 mads wrote: + Show Spoiler + On April 17 2012 01:49 TotalBiscuit wrote: Bullshit. As eSports becomes more popular play-by-play will be required even more. The hardcore who want analysis and nothing but will become marginalised just as they are in any other mainstream sports and that kind of content will be relegated to specialist shows. Cricket is a pretty terrible comparison, try sports like American Football or Soccer where there are plenty of professional commentators that never played the game. This is how it works - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sports_commentator Note the guys in the picture, major Rugby commentators. One of them played at club level, one of them did not play at all, his background was in broadcasting, just like every other play-by-play sports commentator. Just one of many examples of exactly this team. Some of these guys are paid millions a year. I just wanna point out as well that these same comments were being made back in the beta of 2010. "The play by play guys will fade away very soon". It never happened. As more and more people stop laddering (as we've seen by the shrinking number of leagues and active players on a season by season basis), we'll see even more demand for articulate play-by-play/analysis combos rather than hardcore analysis teams. Ex-players are less interested in learning how things work than active players who want to get better at the game. Whatever helps you sleep at night man. Even the play-by-play commentators in mainstream sports have a deep understanding of the game. They live and breathe whatever game they commentate on. You, very clearly, do not. I have to mute everything you cast and that's really frustrating. Its like the example he gave just kinda.... woooosh on topic: Considering his long history with his BW channel on YouTube, then switched to casting SC2 in Korea and now onto LoL I'm kind of hurt by how sudden this all seems D; | ||
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TotalBiscuit
United Kingdom5437 Posts
On April 17 2012 02:28 mads wrote: Whatever helps you sleep at night man. Even the play-by-play commentators in mainstream sports have a deep understanding of the game. They live and breathe whatever game they commentate on. You, very clearly, do not. I have to mute everything you cast and that's really frustrating. You know what helps me sleep at night? Knowing that voices like yours are a tiny vocal minority of unpleasant individuals. Nothing helps one sleep at night more than cold hard numbers and facts. For every person like you, there are many more than think the exact opposite. It's not like the criticism of someone who doesn't even listen to my casts is valuable. | ||
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PrAeToR.FeNiX
Canada361 Posts
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Lann555
Netherlands5173 Posts
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mads
Canada90 Posts
On April 17 2012 02:32 TotalBiscuit wrote: You know what helps me sleep at night? Knowing that voices like yours are a tiny vocal minority of unpleasant individuals. Nothing helps one sleep at night more than cold hard numbers and facts. For every person like you, there are many more than think the exact opposite. It's not like the criticism of someone who doesn't even listen to my casts is valuable. If or when you're gone people will be saying the same things about you as they are right now about moletrap. If you believe me to be only a tiny minority then I guess it's no wonder you sleep well. | ||
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DwD
Sweden8621 Posts
On April 17 2012 02:15 1sz2sz3sz wrote: Moletrap making the switch before KeSPAs OGN SC2 league kills GOMtv once again and he will be the sole caster for english commentary in korea! mother of god. Moletrap is a genius! | ||
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Lann555
Netherlands5173 Posts
On April 17 2012 02:32 TotalBiscuit wrote: You know what helps me sleep at night? Knowing that voices like yours are a tiny vocal minority of unpleasant individuals. Nothing helps one sleep at night more than cold hard numbers and facts. For every person like you, there are many more than think the exact opposite. It's not like the criticism of someone who doesn't even listen to my casts is valuable. Hey TB, I enjoyed your casting yesterday. Keep it up! (just felt the need to neutralize a hater. Now I can sleep tight as well) | ||
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MugenXBanksy
United States479 Posts
On April 17 2012 02:39 mads wrote: If or when you're gone, people will be saying the same things about you as they are right now about moletrap. What bad mouthing him or wishing him good luck in his new endeavors? TB is a ok guy just super opionated from his expirences in these scenes. DJwheat rants atleast are funny sometimes | ||
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