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synapse
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
China13814 Posts
April 16 2012 16:45 GMT
#361
He was much better as a BW caster, hope he finds success in his new endeavors~
:)
Joedaddy
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States1948 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-16 16:47:16
April 16 2012 16:47 GMT
#362
On April 16 2012 18:36 Ketch wrote:
Highlight of Moletrap at GSL:
+ Show Spoiler +


Thank you for this. It's been a while since I heard moletrap and I was having a hard time remembering why I didn't like his casting. I remember now though...

It's a great opportunity for him and I wish him the best of luck, but I'd be lying if I said I was anything less than ecstatic about him leaving Gom.
I might be the minority on TL, but TL is the minority everywhere else.
themask4f
Profile Joined December 2011
138 Posts
April 16 2012 16:49 GMT
#363
I hope the starcraft community feels proud of themselves. They finally got his head, I wonder whos next
TotalBiscuit
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United Kingdom5437 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-16 16:52:46
April 16 2012 16:49 GMT
#364
On April 17 2012 01:29 MrLion wrote:
Also, I think eventually the casters who are clueless about the game (like TB, etc) will disappear, once esports become more popular and standards are raised. 99% of casters in "real life" sports (like cricket) are those who are ex-sportsmen, and can explain the intricacies of the game.


Bullshit. As eSports becomes more popular play-by-play will be required even more. The hardcore who want analysis and nothing but will become marginalised just as they are in any other mainstream sports and that kind of content will be relegated to specialist shows. Cricket is a pretty terrible comparison, try sports like American Football or Soccer where there are plenty of professional commentators that never played the game. This is how it works - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sports_commentator

Note the guys in the picture, major Rugby commentators. One of them played at club level, one of them did not play at all, his background was in broadcasting, just like every other play-by-play sports commentator. Just one of many examples of exactly this team. Some of these guys are paid millions a year.

I just wanna point out as well that these same comments were being made back in the beta of 2010. "The play by play guys will fade away very soon". It never happened. As more and more people stop laddering (as we've seen by the shrinking number of leagues and active players on a season by season basis), we'll see even more demand for articulate play-by-play/analysis combos rather than hardcore analysis teams. Ex-players are less interested in learning how things work than active players who want to get better at the game.
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Technique
Profile Joined March 2010
Netherlands1542 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-16 16:54:28
April 16 2012 16:53 GMT
#365
On April 17 2012 01:43 Trowa127 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2012 00:59 MugenXBanksy wrote:
On April 16 2012 18:15 turdburgler wrote:

not sure why he switched to be honest. people liked his casting i thought? and by all accounts he doesnt know much about lol ;D


You don't need to know a lot about LoL to sound intelligent about LoL, its a very flat game in terms of meta game and the for the first 15mins he doesn't have to talk about something about the game because of the laning phase lol.


Flat meta? Have you watched any pro LoL in the last 6 months? The changes are astounding.

Jesus man these forums are fucking terrible.

Ain't lol wc3tft with only 1 hero and no other units and no base/basebuilding either?

Sounds hard indeed.
If you think you're good, you suck. If you think you suck, you're getting better.
testthewest
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany274 Posts
April 16 2012 16:58 GMT
#366
Seems that what everybody was taking for granted - SC2 being the next big e-sports thing - isn't so sure anymore.

Didn't like Moletraps voice too much, his casting wasn't too good either, but I think he is a decent person...

...hope he finds a nicer audiance now. Also hope LoL won't eat SC2...
War is not about who is right, but who is left.
MugenXBanksy
Profile Joined April 2011
United States479 Posts
April 16 2012 17:00 GMT
#367
On April 17 2012 01:43 Trowa127 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2012 00:59 MugenXBanksy wrote:
On April 16 2012 18:15 turdburgler wrote:

not sure why he switched to be honest. people liked his casting i thought? and by all accounts he doesnt know much about lol ;D


You don't need to know a lot about LoL to sound intelligent about LoL, its a very flat game in terms of meta game and the for the first 15mins he doesn't have to talk about something about the game because of the laning phase lol.


Flat meta? Have you watched any pro LoL in the last 6 months? The changes are astounding.

Jesus man these forums are fucking terrible.



I have and I am bored of it, its a boring esport
we all hope to be like whitera one day
[F_]aths
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Germany3947 Posts
April 16 2012 17:03 GMT
#368
I will not really miss him to be honest. His style is not the style I prefer. However I want to be clear about that I still admire him for what he has done for the scene. He did more for esports in a day than I can do in a year.
You don't choose to play zerg. The zerg choose you.
Antyee
Profile Joined May 2011
Hungary1011 Posts
April 16 2012 17:04 GMT
#369
On April 17 2012 01:53 Technique wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2012 01:43 Trowa127 wrote:
On April 17 2012 00:59 MugenXBanksy wrote:
On April 16 2012 18:15 turdburgler wrote:

not sure why he switched to be honest. people liked his casting i thought? and by all accounts he doesnt know much about lol ;D


You don't need to know a lot about LoL to sound intelligent about LoL, its a very flat game in terms of meta game and the for the first 15mins he doesn't have to talk about something about the game because of the laning phase lol.


Flat meta? Have you watched any pro LoL in the last 6 months? The changes are astounding.

Jesus man these forums are fucking terrible.

Ain't lol wc3tft with only 1 hero and no other units and no base/basebuilding either?

Sounds hard indeed.


Make buildings and stuff will come out of it.
Sounds like Sims.

Oversimplification at its best.
"My spoon is too big."
SupLilSon
Profile Joined October 2011
Malaysia4123 Posts
April 16 2012 17:07 GMT
#370
On April 17 2012 01:49 TotalBiscuit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2012 01:29 MrLion wrote:
Also, I think eventually the casters who are clueless about the game (like TB, etc) will disappear, once esports become more popular and standards are raised. 99% of casters in "real life" sports (like cricket) are those who are ex-sportsmen, and can explain the intricacies of the game.


Bullshit. As eSports becomes more popular play-by-play will be required even more. The hardcore who want analysis and nothing but will become marginalised just as they are in any other mainstream sports and that kind of content will be relegated to specialist shows. Cricket is a pretty terrible comparison, try sports like American Football or Soccer where there are plenty of professional commentators that never played the game. This is how it works - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sports_commentator

Note the guys in the picture, major Rugby commentators. One of them played at club level, one of them did not play at all, his background was in broadcasting, just like every other play-by-play sports commentator. Just one of many examples of exactly this team. Some of these guys are paid millions a year.

I just wanna point out as well that these same comments were being made back in the beta of 2010. "The play by play guys will fade away very soon". It never happened. As more and more people stop laddering (as we've seen by the shrinking number of leagues and active players on a season by season basis), we'll see even more demand for articulate play-by-play/analysis combos rather than hardcore analysis teams. Ex-players are less interested in learning how things work than active players who want to get better at the game.


TB, just keep doing what you do. People think they want to hear SOTG every time they watch SC2.
ghosthunter
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States414 Posts
April 16 2012 17:08 GMT
#371
I regret coming into this thread expecting humility.

Best of luck Moletrap, I'm sure you'll do great at LoL as you did at GOM.
Whitewing
Profile Joined October 2010
United States7483 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-16 17:12:11
April 16 2012 17:10 GMT
#372
I'm so glad that he's not casting code A anymore.

No offense to Moletrap as a person or anything, but his casting annoyed the hell out of me: I actually stopped watching code A when he was casting. Every time he insulted a player I wanted to strangle him.
Strategy"You know I fucking hate the way you play, right?" ~SC2John
Br3ezy
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States720 Posts
April 16 2012 17:10 GMT
#373
YES FINALLY!

User was temp banned for this post.
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ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
April 16 2012 17:11 GMT
#374
On April 17 2012 02:07 SupLilSon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2012 01:49 TotalBiscuit wrote:
On April 17 2012 01:29 MrLion wrote:
Also, I think eventually the casters who are clueless about the game (like TB, etc) will disappear, once esports become more popular and standards are raised. 99% of casters in "real life" sports (like cricket) are those who are ex-sportsmen, and can explain the intricacies of the game.


Bullshit. As eSports becomes more popular play-by-play will be required even more. The hardcore who want analysis and nothing but will become marginalised just as they are in any other mainstream sports and that kind of content will be relegated to specialist shows. Cricket is a pretty terrible comparison, try sports like American Football or Soccer where there are plenty of professional commentators that never played the game. This is how it works - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sports_commentator

Note the guys in the picture, major Rugby commentators. One of them played at club level, one of them did not play at all, his background was in broadcasting, just like every other play-by-play sports commentator. Just one of many examples of exactly this team. Some of these guys are paid millions a year.

I just wanna point out as well that these same comments were being made back in the beta of 2010. "The play by play guys will fade away very soon". It never happened. As more and more people stop laddering (as we've seen by the shrinking number of leagues and active players on a season by season basis), we'll see even more demand for articulate play-by-play/analysis combos rather than hardcore analysis teams. Ex-players are less interested in learning how things work than active players who want to get better at the game.


TB, just keep doing what you do. People think they want to hear SOTG every time they watch SC2.

Lol SotG. Could you not have found a better example than this one? :D
Glurkenspurk
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1915 Posts
April 16 2012 17:12 GMT
#375
On April 17 2012 01:49 TotalBiscuit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2012 01:29 MrLion wrote:
Also, I think eventually the casters who are clueless about the game (like TB, etc) will disappear, once esports become more popular and standards are raised. 99% of casters in "real life" sports (like cricket) are those who are ex-sportsmen, and can explain the intricacies of the game.


Bullshit. As eSports becomes more popular play-by-play will be required even more. The hardcore who want analysis and nothing but will become marginalised just as they are in any other mainstream sports and that kind of content will be relegated to specialist shows. Cricket is a pretty terrible comparison, try sports like American Football or Soccer where there are plenty of professional commentators that never played the game. This is how it works - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sports_commentator

Note the guys in the picture, major Rugby commentators. One of them played at club level, one of them did not play at all, his background was in broadcasting, just like every other play-by-play sports commentator. Just one of many examples of exactly this team. Some of these guys are paid millions a year.

I just wanna point out as well that these same comments were being made back in the beta of 2010. "The play by play guys will fade away very soon". It never happened. As more and more people stop laddering (as we've seen by the shrinking number of leagues and active players on a season by season basis), we'll see even more demand for articulate play-by-play/analysis combos rather than hardcore analysis teams. Ex-players are less interested in learning how things work than active players who want to get better at the game.


The main thing is that even the play by play guys usually have a deep understanding of the game. That's really something a bit unique to starcraft 2 though. It's very difficult to really get some things that happen without having experienced it yourself. I'd say you're one of the better casters (even taking into account analysts) recently with not making shitty calls or talking out of their asses when something happens.


Anyway I'm mad that Moletrap is casting LoL. It's like we're starting back at the beginning with a caster with nearly 0 game knowledge who prefers yelling over speaking intelligently. The lack of a good analytical commentator at OGN for LoL is sad.
Ldawg
Profile Joined December 2011
United States328 Posts
April 16 2012 17:13 GMT
#376
On April 17 2012 02:10 Br3ezy wrote:
YES FINALLY!



Methinks ban incoming for this guy ^^. Anyway, I must say I found myself avoiding code A due to his casting. I enjoy Wolf, and find Khaldor OK. If the rumor is true that Artosis will be casting code A while the position is filled, then I am very excited!
"Terran so...ice cream!" MKP/MC at HSC IV
Destroyr
Profile Joined November 2011
Germany299 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-16 17:14:56
April 16 2012 17:13 GMT
#377
On April 17 2012 01:53 Technique wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2012 01:43 Trowa127 wrote:
On April 17 2012 00:59 MugenXBanksy wrote:
On April 16 2012 18:15 turdburgler wrote:

not sure why he switched to be honest. people liked his casting i thought? and by all accounts he doesnt know much about lol ;D


You don't need to know a lot about LoL to sound intelligent about LoL, its a very flat game in terms of meta game and the for the first 15mins he doesn't have to talk about something about the game because of the laning phase lol.


Flat meta? Have you watched any pro LoL in the last 6 months? The changes are astounding.

Jesus man these forums are fucking terrible.

Ain't lol wc3tft with only 1 hero and no other units and no base/basebuilding either?

Sounds hard indeed.


Yeah MY game... terrible thing. It is sad that he is going as he has been casting bw... But to be onest i avoided code A a lot and i still prefer nukes casts over his on youtube if it centers around bw.
thepuppyassassin
Profile Joined April 2011
900 Posts
April 16 2012 17:13 GMT
#378
Why the hell are we hearing this from Khaldor? It sounds like Moletrap didn't want the news getting out yet from his twitter.. That was a pretty dick move by him. Well it was pretty apparent that they didn't like each other.. still.. there should be a little bit more professional courtesy.
Trowa127
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom1230 Posts
April 16 2012 17:13 GMT
#379
On April 17 2012 01:53 Technique wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2012 01:43 Trowa127 wrote:
On April 17 2012 00:59 MugenXBanksy wrote:
On April 16 2012 18:15 turdburgler wrote:

not sure why he switched to be honest. people liked his casting i thought? and by all accounts he doesnt know much about lol ;D


You don't need to know a lot about LoL to sound intelligent about LoL, its a very flat game in terms of meta game and the for the first 15mins he doesn't have to talk about something about the game because of the laning phase lol.


Flat meta? Have you watched any pro LoL in the last 6 months? The changes are astounding.

Jesus man these forums are fucking terrible.

Ain't lol wc3tft with only 1 hero and no other units and no base/basebuilding either?

Sounds hard indeed.


Sigh. As I said before, this forum is disgusting. And its getting worse.

WP.

Moletrap, do what you enjoy mate and good luck to you.
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Marddox
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom108 Posts
April 16 2012 17:14 GMT
#380
For LoL is a kick in the teeth.

aw well, best of luck to moletrap!
We didn't have no "4 gates" back in the probe drought, no sir! we only had 1 gate, chrono and probes to defend!
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