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Hakanfrog
Profile Joined October 2011
Sweden690 Posts
April 14 2012 23:34 GMT
#121
Looking at these players, the best possible (and most worthy) final would be Parting vs MKP, they are both so fucking good at the matchup.
Ruscour
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
5233 Posts
April 14 2012 23:34 GMT
#122
On April 15 2012 08:21 spatz wrote:
buff zerg?

No good Korean Zergs right now. Toss was doing well for a few months before we finally started seeing Protoss success in GSL, and Zergs are arguably dominating the foreign scene. Give it time before calling balance.
TeeTS
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany2762 Posts
April 14 2012 23:37 GMT
#123
On April 15 2012 02:15 Zyrnak wrote:
[...]

This might be slightly off, but Map Win Rate by MU

TvP
13-15, 46.4%
TvZ
12-13, 48%
PvZ
12-4, 75%


now you know where all the zerg have gone. But TvP seems to still be a very close matchup, while these stats of course contain the triple upset with Supernova > Genius, Maru > Hero and Virus > MC. For Protoss there were no such upsets over terran players, since the terran favorites were mostly stable this season (with Jjakji losing to taeja being ok, leaves MMA as the only real terran disappointment). Terran is maybe not the strongest race by definition, but top terran players seem to be the most crisis-safe. will be an intesting Ro16 and an interesting ceremony. The lack of zerg players is the only setback here .
torm3ntin
Profile Joined October 2009
Brazil2534 Posts
April 14 2012 23:39 GMT
#124
Wish i could see it but ill be sleeping
Grubby and Ret fan, but a TERRAN player :D
JJH777
Profile Joined January 2011
United States4400 Posts
April 14 2012 23:41 GMT
#125
On April 15 2012 08:34 Ruscour wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2012 08:21 spatz wrote:
buff zerg?

No good Korean Zergs right now. Toss was doing well for a few months before we finally started seeing Protoss success in GSL, and Zergs are arguably dominating the foreign scene. Give it time before calling balance.


What foreign players do isn't relevant to balance
Ruscour
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
5233 Posts
April 14 2012 23:45 GMT
#126
On April 15 2012 08:41 JJH777 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2012 08:34 Ruscour wrote:
On April 15 2012 08:21 spatz wrote:
buff zerg?

No good Korean Zergs right now. Toss was doing well for a few months before we finally started seeing Protoss success in GSL, and Zergs are arguably dominating the foreign scene. Give it time before calling balance.


What foreign players do isn't relevant to balance

If you make that argument then nothing Korean players do is relevant to balance. SC2 is still lightyears away from the level of refinement you need in players to truly argue balance. All you have is what you're given. There's a gap, for sure, but it's not *that* big.
Talack
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada2742 Posts
April 14 2012 23:49 GMT
#127
TBH nobody can really say that nestea/drg and some of the other code s zerg deserve to move on this season. Even if they are incredibly good players they produced some AWFUL games in their code-s round of 32 spots.
johnnywup
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3858 Posts
April 14 2012 23:51 GMT
#128
who gets first picks?
JJH777
Profile Joined January 2011
United States4400 Posts
April 14 2012 23:54 GMT
#129
It's been pretty gigantic lately. No foreigners in ro8 of Iron Squid even with latency favoring them, Aside from Huk and Naniwa they got crushed at the MLGs. No foreginers got through open bracket at IPL4 and two of the ones that got seeded to pool play got 0-4'd. Even Stephano the foreign "hope" doesn't even have a 50% winrate vs Koreans. Koreans taking top 2 spots at both IEMs this year and HSC4.
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37017 Posts
April 14 2012 23:57 GMT
#130
On April 15 2012 05:17 Juliette wrote:
thanks for using the race descriptions bw style

^^

:D I knows right?
ModeratorPeople ask me, "Seeker, what are you seeking?" My answer? "Sleep, damn it! Always sleep!"
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Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37017 Posts
April 14 2012 23:59 GMT
#131
On April 15 2012 04:57 Shkudde wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2012 04:43 loazis wrote:
In depth information from Hondelul

I snorted tea over my keyboard.


Yeah, do the english-speakers actually know what 'Hondelul' means? :D
Very respected poster, nothing negative, just wondering.

Hmm..... Google Translate gave me "bastard"

So...... if true then, LOL!!!!
ModeratorPeople ask me, "Seeker, what are you seeking?" My answer? "Sleep, damn it! Always sleep!"
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Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
April 15 2012 00:01 GMT
#132
On April 15 2012 08:01 Porcelina wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2012 07:48 Noocta wrote:
If a protoss don't win this one, there's a serious issue.
Beside MKP, every terran who made it are average TvPer, and both zerg are bad ZvPer. <<


I do not think you can say that Taeja, TheSTC and Supernova are average TvP'ers. If that were the case, TvP would seem incredibly Terran favored.


oGs Terran are incredebly inconsistent in TvP.
One day they look very good, like MKP/Jjakji level. Other day they get beaten haaaard.

Specially Supernova. The guy lose all confidence in standart play in this match up.
" I'm not gonna fight you. I'm gonna kick your ass ! "
FlamingForce
Profile Joined September 2011
Netherlands701 Posts
April 15 2012 00:02 GMT
#133
On April 15 2012 08:59 SeeKeR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2012 04:57 Shkudde wrote:
On April 15 2012 04:43 loazis wrote:
In depth information from Hondelul

I snorted tea over my keyboard.


Yeah, do the english-speakers actually know what 'Hondelul' means? :D
Very respected poster, nothing negative, just wondering.

Hmm..... Google Translate gave me "bastard"

So...... if true then, LOL!!!!


Google translate so good manner.

It basically means "Dog d*ck"
GreyKnight
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4720 Posts
April 15 2012 00:03 GMT
#134
On April 15 2012 09:01 Noocta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2012 08:01 Porcelina wrote:
On April 15 2012 07:48 Noocta wrote:
If a protoss don't win this one, there's a serious issue.
Beside MKP, every terran who made it are average TvPer, and both zerg are bad ZvPer. <<


I do not think you can say that Taeja, TheSTC and Supernova are average TvP'ers. If that were the case, TvP would seem incredibly Terran favored.


oGs Terran are incredebly inconsistent in TvP.
One day they look very good, like MKP/Jjakji level. Other day they get beaten haaaard.

Specially Supernova. The guy lose all confidence in standart play in this match up.


i thought so too but he beat Seed with pretty standard play.
kineticSYN
Profile Joined May 2011
United States909 Posts
April 15 2012 00:05 GMT
#135
mvp baby, mvp

hopin for a sick season, hoping for a tvp finals of mvp vs parting/squirtle with mvp taking it with some legendary play
IMMvp #1 :)
Assirra
Profile Joined August 2010
Belgium4169 Posts
April 15 2012 00:22 GMT
#136
On April 15 2012 08:34 Ruscour wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2012 08:21 spatz wrote:
buff zerg?

No good Korean Zergs right now. Toss was doing well for a few months before we finally started seeing Protoss success in GSL, and Zergs are arguably dominating the foreign scene. Give it time before calling balance.

Like i said before, where is new batch of zergs? terran and protoss are switching while zergs are just dropping off.
Kettchup
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1911 Posts
April 15 2012 00:22 GMT
#137
All 8 group winners came from just 3 teams. 4 StartaleQ, 2 Prime, 2 oGs. I found that interesting.
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37017 Posts
April 15 2012 00:22 GMT
#138
On April 15 2012 09:02 FlamingForce wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2012 08:59 SeeKeR wrote:
On April 15 2012 04:57 Shkudde wrote:
On April 15 2012 04:43 loazis wrote:
In depth information from Hondelul

I snorted tea over my keyboard.


Yeah, do the english-speakers actually know what 'Hondelul' means? :D
Very respected poster, nothing negative, just wondering.

Hmm..... Google Translate gave me "bastard"

So...... if true then, LOL!!!!


Google translate so good manner.

It basically means "Dog d*ck"

LOL!!!

I can see why that guy snorted his tea then XD
ModeratorPeople ask me, "Seeker, what are you seeking?" My answer? "Sleep, damn it! Always sleep!"
TL+ Member
ReaperX
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Hong Kong1758 Posts
April 15 2012 00:23 GMT
#139
Jesus christ... look at all those StarTaleQ's.
Artosis : Clide. idrA : Shut up.
forsooth
Profile Joined February 2011
United States3648 Posts
April 15 2012 00:26 GMT
#140
On April 15 2012 04:41 HaXXspetten wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 15 2012 04:05 Zane wrote:
OK MKP, time to eliminate the good PvTers so we can have another Mvp vs MKP finals.

Why would you hope for yet another TvT finals when this is the most promising season ever for some variety? >.>

Because TvT is better than PvWhatever, obviously.
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