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Azzur
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia6267 Posts
April 06 2012 05:04 GMT
#121
Wow, the korean chart looks crazy - a matchup favouring one side suddenly shifts the next month.

The win rates for Feb and Mar shows that momentum and form is more important than "balance".
thezanursic
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
5504 Posts
April 06 2012 05:27 GMT
#122
On April 06 2012 04:43 TheRealNanMan wrote:
Awesome! I've been waiting to see these statistics!

It is interesting to see zerg having issues in Korea but rolling everywhere else

Zerg has always been the noob friendliest race.
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DashedHopes
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Canada414 Posts
April 06 2012 05:28 GMT
#123
Despite all the TvP Whining i feel this is a little proof to how wrong it might be by saying the match up is imbalanced in north america.
thezanursic
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
5504 Posts
April 06 2012 05:28 GMT
#124
On April 06 2012 14:04 Azzur wrote:
Wow, the korean chart looks crazy - a matchup favouring one side suddenly shifts the next month.

The win rates for Feb and Mar shows that momentum and form is more important than "balance".

Yeah seeing statistics like this just makes me think how stupid it would be if Blizzard released a patch when things have not even balanced out yet.
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Let it Raine
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada1245 Posts
April 06 2012 05:37 GMT
#125
On April 06 2012 14:27 thezanursic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2012 04:43 TheRealNanMan wrote:
Awesome! I've been waiting to see these statistics!

It is interesting to see zerg having issues in Korea but rolling everywhere else

Zerg has always been the noob friendliest race.


somehow i think you believe that
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FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
April 06 2012 05:56 GMT
#126
On April 06 2012 14:27 thezanursic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2012 04:43 TheRealNanMan wrote:
Awesome! I've been waiting to see these statistics!

It is interesting to see zerg having issues in Korea but rolling everywhere else

Zerg has always been the noob friendliest race.


Someone's been getting rolled by zerg too much
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Highways
Profile Joined July 2005
Australia6122 Posts
April 06 2012 06:10 GMT
#127
Makes sense to me.

Zerg wins pretty much everything in the foreign scene, while struggling a little in Korea.
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phodacbiet
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1740 Posts
April 06 2012 06:13 GMT
#128
On April 06 2012 15:10 Highways wrote:
Makes sense to me.

Zerg wins pretty much everything in the foreign scene, while struggling a little in Korea.


You mean foreign scene where code s players dominate foreigners?
cozzE
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia357 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-06 07:05:15
April 06 2012 07:04 GMT
#129
Lol at people thinking TvP is entirely balanced because of these statistics. T1 units will always be terran's one big strength. It allows players to express their skill through micro and macro. What these graphs don't highlight is the sad state of terran's alternate tech paths. Without bio being as strong as it always has been in SC2, the race would fall flat on it's face. I don't think anyone would dispute that.
Noocta
Profile Joined June 2010
France12578 Posts
April 06 2012 07:10 GMT
#130
I always thought TvP was easier during a boX because mindgames are very strong in this match-up.
But for random bo1 on ladder, it's a lot harder to play with the opponent mind and get an advantage from that.

That's usually what happen when I custom against a protoss friend of my level. I win way more games against him than against ladder opponent.
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Thrombozyt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Germany1269 Posts
April 06 2012 07:35 GMT
#131
I'm wondering for a while now, how the Korean vs. International distinction is made.

Is it along the lines of Korean equals GSL plus KSL weekly?

Or is it a Korean player playing in the game? So if MKP wins vs DRG in the MLG final, is that Korean TvZ win? Or international TvZ win? It should be Korean in my opinion.

Though if it's player bound and not determined by the venue, then what happens if Socke beats TheStC at MLG?

I think that would be another interesting form of those statistics. If the Korean and the International win rates don't have to form 100% each, but as Koreans beat Foreigners, they leech wins so that e.g. TvZ+ZvT would be over 100%. This way we could really see how things are panning out.
Shield
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Bulgaria4824 Posts
April 06 2012 07:42 GMT
#132
Haha, I remember terrans crying last month "omg, protoss has more % at PvT, nerf!!!". Now it's back to normal.
esaul17
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada547 Posts
April 06 2012 07:42 GMT
#133
It is just the Korean vs the International TLPD databases.
Yoshi Kirishima
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States10382 Posts
April 06 2012 07:43 GMT
#134
LOL WTF

KR even more extreme this time, holy shit lol! Look at that TvP ! And PvZ? only TvZ is similar global vs korea o.o

wtf is this lol, PvT isn't in favor of P? There are still some pros who complain about TvP o.o
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Big J
Profile Joined March 2011
Austria16289 Posts
April 06 2012 08:03 GMT
#135
On April 06 2012 16:35 Thrombozyt wrote:
I'm wondering for a while now, how the Korean vs. International distinction is made.

Is it along the lines of Korean equals GSL plus KSL weekly?

Or is it a Korean player playing in the game? So if MKP wins vs DRG in the MLG final, is that Korean TvZ win? Or international TvZ win? It should be Korean in my opinion.

Though if it's player bound and not determined by the venue, then what happens if Socke beats TheStC at MLG?

I think that would be another interesting form of those statistics. If the Korean and the International win rates don't have to form 100% each, but as Koreans beat Foreigners, they leech wins so that e.g. TvZ+ZvT would be over 100%. This way we could really see how things are panning out.


As far as I know, International and Korean mean their respective tournaments.
So if a Korean wins a MLG match, it's international. If a foreigner wins a GSL match it's Korean.
Salteador Neo
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Andorra5591 Posts
April 06 2012 08:03 GMT
#136
People are you really suprised about Terran dominating Protoss? Did you watch the graphs the last 12 months?
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Neelia
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany599 Posts
April 06 2012 08:19 GMT
#137
On April 06 2012 12:25 SniXSniPe wrote:
Just goes to show how random SC2 is starting to feel like once everyone hits that high skill cap.


Nobody has hit the skill cap and probably nobody never will.
Thrombozyt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Germany1269 Posts
April 06 2012 08:26 GMT
#138
On April 06 2012 16:43 Yoshi Kirishima wrote:
LOL WTF

KR even more extreme this time, holy shit lol! Look at that TvP ! And PvZ? only TvZ is similar global vs korea o.o

wtf is this lol, PvT isn't in favor of P? There are still some pros who complain about TvP o.o


Look at the number of games. The number of games for the Korean stats in March is half as high as the usual amount. Now split the 240 games (that may or may not include mirrors - any confimation on that?) three-ways and you get 80 games per matchup and HUGE statistical variations. It's already bad for the usualy 500 games per month in Korea in terms of statistical error, but this month is much much much worse.
Apolo
Profile Joined May 2010
Portugal1259 Posts
April 06 2012 08:29 GMT
#139
No wonder so many players in korea chose terran. Even after 1 year, in korea it has never (except for a month at 49.5%) been below 50% win rate.
VidyaYuropa
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
87 Posts
April 06 2012 08:42 GMT
#140
oh the sweet rage and hate against terran, im seriously starting to enjoy this.

jokes aside, korean sample is really small, people should start realising this, as the smaller the sample size is the more extreme the outcome will be.
We should expect a Protoss Buff if Protoss keeps losing more, which would be understandable, looking at the international winrates.
Maybe once no Terran in patchnotes lol
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