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On March 21 2012 03:52 RedBlargh wrote:
No casting K9? Seriously, Day9 and Husky are on par with Tastosis when they cast together.
Looking forward to seeing those who'll be coming out of the open-bracket. Always exciting :D
Exactly. Instead we have all this drama with Rob Pimpson. He is better than JP but still bad in large doses. I can tolerate him a few matches but not an entire tournament.
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On March 21 2012 03:15 MLG_Adam wrote:Show nested quote +On March 21 2012 02:16 OpticalPhonon wrote:On March 21 2012 00:09 MLG_Adam wrote:I don't get the Rob hate  Also to clarify, Rob's presence has nothing to do with Blizzard. Little known fact is Rob's first esports job was with MLG casting our events at 16 years old. He left MLG to take a full time job with Blizzard. Even though I'll never forgive him for leaving, we love Rob's casting and will always welcome him back to our events! The issue is that all of a sudden this guy comes out of nowhere and is casting major events. His only casting credentials appear to be the "Terrible, terrible damage" videos and whatever part-time job you're referring too. In contrast, every other caster we see on stage has paid their dues putting in hundreds (or thousands) of hours into the community with little or no pay. Can you honestly say that if Rob Simpson wasn't working for Blizzard that he would be casting this? There's nothing wrong with his casting but there are many people in the community who are just as good, if not better. In fact, you have a bunch of them casting your Beta stream. Why not give the opportunity to people who have shown their love and dedication to the community instead of someone who appears to be nothing more than a carpetbagger. Edit: Adam actually states "Rob's presence has nothing to do with Blizzard." I mean, that's just the biggest pile of bullshit I've ever heard. Is this how the hiring process went: Adam: "Hey Rob remember all those years ago when you were 16 and you casted for us?" Rob: "No." Adam: "Well, we'd like you to cast again! It's a totally different game so we'll just start you off nice and easy by putting you in front of about a hundred thousand live viewers. Don't worry they're on the Internet, so they won't be critical if it goes badly." Rob: "I actually work for Blizzard now, so I can't." Adam: "Blizzard? Huh, what a coincidence the game you'll be casting is made by Blizzard!" Rob: "Wow, that must be a sign! I guess I'll take the job." Honest answers are never accepted I guess casting experience, existing job relationships, plus hands on experience for 5 years working in ESPORTS for the publisher of said title is not good enough credentials. You can be as dramatic as you like, I was being 100% honest. Rob is my friend, a former co worker, and we all feel he is a damn good caster.
Rob's great as a caster. His voice is kind of pretty brilliant. And he knows enough of the game to be relevant. Hell he called most of the upsets and games in MLG Winter Arena, he understands how people play and what kind of form they are in. Normally I wouldn't post about how great he is, but haters will always post while those that like him will not because we normally don't have to when he's already included in the lineup. There are definitely more people that enjoy Rob's casting.
Hell, our community has casters like TB, Husky, Wheat, and Rob is as knowledgeable as them. I don't mind all of those aforementioned, so Rob is fine too. I enjoy Rob's calm casting, it stops me from turning off the sound when its getting too loud.
And who really is that knowledgeable about the game anyways? Artosis (except when he goes on his biased lovefests of hyped Protoss players, Mvp, Nestea, Alive, and his hatred of SlayerS), Day9, Apollo?
He's excellent, and deserves it. And what more could we want than a decent caster who works for Blizzard to be at our events? More Blizzard interaction with the scene.
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On March 21 2012 04:17 MLG_Adam wrote:Show nested quote +On March 21 2012 04:14 OpticalPhonon wrote:On March 21 2012 03:15 MLG_Adam wrote:On March 21 2012 02:16 OpticalPhonon wrote:On March 21 2012 00:09 MLG_Adam wrote:I don't get the Rob hate Also to clarify, Rob's presence has nothing to do with Blizzard. Little known fact is Rob's first esports job was with MLG casting our events at 16 years old. He left MLG to take a full time job with Blizzard. Even though I'll never forgive him for leaving, we love Rob's casting and will always welcome him back to our events! The issue is that all of a sudden this guy comes out of nowhere and is casting major events. His only casting credentials appear to be the "Terrible, terrible damage" videos and whatever part-time job you're referring too. In contrast, every other caster we see on stage has paid their dues putting in hundreds (or thousands) of hours into the community with little or no pay. Can you honestly say that if Rob Simpson wasn't working for Blizzard that he would be casting this? There's nothing wrong with his casting but there are many people in the community who are just as good, if not better. In fact, you have a bunch of them casting your Beta stream. Why not give the opportunity to people who have shown their love and dedication to the community instead of someone who appears to be nothing more than a carpetbagger. Edit: Adam actually states "Rob's presence has nothing to do with Blizzard." I mean, that's just the biggest pile of bullshit I've ever heard. Is this how the hiring process went: Adam: "Hey Rob remember all those years ago when you were 16 and you casted for us?" Rob: "No." Adam: "Well, we'd like you to cast again! It's a totally different game so we'll just start you off nice and easy by putting you in front of about a hundred thousand live viewers. Don't worry they're on the Internet, so they won't be critical if it goes badly." Rob: "I actually work for Blizzard now, so I can't." Adam: "Blizzard? Huh, what a coincidence the game you'll be casting is made by Blizzard!" Rob: "Wow, that must be a sign! I guess I'll take the job." Honest answers are never accepted I guess casting experience, existing job relationships, plus hands on experience for 5 years working in ESPORTS for the publisher of said title is not good enough credentials. You can be as dramatic as you like, I was being 100% honest. Rob is my friend, a former co worker, and we all feel he is a damn good caster. These are all valid reasons for hiring someone. The only issue is that you're now stating that one of the primary reasons why you hired him is because he has worked for Blizzard for five years. This contradicts what you wrote earlier: "Rob's presence has nothing to do with Blizzard." If earlier in the thread you'd simply stated that "Yeah, he works for Blizzard and that makes him even more qualified for the position" I would have had less of a problem. But your earlier post came across as artificial as you tried to build him up as some sort of hard working community member that we just weren't aware of. While he may be a great guy who is a competent caster, at the end of the day he is a Blizzard employee and that's why he got the job over a community member. The Blizzard reference is intended to highlight that he works on the game, understands the game, and has knowledge of tournaments/players. It is more of a resume highlight, e.g. he knows his shit.
Again, this comes across as disingenuous. I don't see the issue with just straight out saying that the main reason why he got this opportunity to cast was because he works for Blizzard. Is there really a need to brush that aside by calling it a "resume highlight"? If he's in his mid-20s and has worked there for five years it's probably the only thing of note on his resume. At the few events he has casted so far he has always been introduced as "Rob Simpson from Blizzard" so why are you all of a sudden trying to present him as something different? It's just bizarre and unnecessary especially from someone who just claimed that they were "being 100% honest".
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On March 21 2012 04:50 ceaRshaf wrote:Show nested quote +On March 21 2012 03:52 RedBlargh wrote:
No casting K9? Seriously, Day9 and Husky are on par with Tastosis when they cast together.
Looking forward to seeing those who'll be coming out of the open-bracket. Always exciting :D
Exactly. Instead we have all this drama with Rob Pimpson. He is better than JP but still bad in large doses. I can tolerate him a few matches but not an entire tournament.
I would've rather seen someone like Wolf, Khaldor, Apollo or even Orb at his place.
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On March 21 2012 04:40 Wolver1 wrote:
Yh group B is gonna be insane best zerg in the world, easy top 3 toss and perhaps best foreign terran and i guess haypro, whos lets be honest is gonna get stomped. Cant wait to see more nani action that guy is seriuslly sick, ppl should give him more love ^^.
Can't tell if serious...
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It's a bit sad that Husky isn't there. I really like the Husky/Day[9] casting combo. They are the perfect mix of being analytical, entertaining and goofy. True entertainment in my opinion.
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On March 21 2012 05:05 Falconblade wrote:Show nested quote +On March 21 2012 03:15 MLG_Adam wrote:On March 21 2012 02:16 OpticalPhonon wrote:On March 21 2012 00:09 MLG_Adam wrote:I don't get the Rob hate Also to clarify, Rob's presence has nothing to do with Blizzard. Little known fact is Rob's first esports job was with MLG casting our events at 16 years old. He left MLG to take a full time job with Blizzard. Even though I'll never forgive him for leaving, we love Rob's casting and will always welcome him back to our events! The issue is that all of a sudden this guy comes out of nowhere and is casting major events. His only casting credentials appear to be the "Terrible, terrible damage" videos and whatever part-time job you're referring too. In contrast, every other caster we see on stage has paid their dues putting in hundreds (or thousands) of hours into the community with little or no pay. Can you honestly say that if Rob Simpson wasn't working for Blizzard that he would be casting this? There's nothing wrong with his casting but there are many people in the community who are just as good, if not better. In fact, you have a bunch of them casting your Beta stream. Why not give the opportunity to people who have shown their love and dedication to the community instead of someone who appears to be nothing more than a carpetbagger. Edit: Adam actually states "Rob's presence has nothing to do with Blizzard." I mean, that's just the biggest pile of bullshit I've ever heard. Is this how the hiring process went: Adam: "Hey Rob remember all those years ago when you were 16 and you casted for us?" Rob: "No." Adam: "Well, we'd like you to cast again! It's a totally different game so we'll just start you off nice and easy by putting you in front of about a hundred thousand live viewers. Don't worry they're on the Internet, so they won't be critical if it goes badly." Rob: "I actually work for Blizzard now, so I can't." Adam: "Blizzard? Huh, what a coincidence the game you'll be casting is made by Blizzard!" Rob: "Wow, that must be a sign! I guess I'll take the job." Honest answers are never accepted I guess casting experience, existing job relationships, plus hands on experience for 5 years working in ESPORTS for the publisher of said title is not good enough credentials. You can be as dramatic as you like, I was being 100% honest. Rob is my friend, a former co worker, and we all feel he is a damn good caster. Rob's great as a caster. His voice is kind of pretty brilliant. And he knows enough of the game to be relevant. Hell he called most of the upsets and games in MLG Winter Arena, he understands how people play and what kind of form they are in. Normally I wouldn't post about how great he is, but haters will always post while those that like him will not because we normally don't have to when he's already included in the lineup. There are definitely more people that enjoy Rob's casting. Hell, our community has casters like TB, Husky, Wheat, and Rob is as knowledgeable as them. I don't mind all of those aforementioned, so Rob is fine too. I enjoy Rob's calm casting, it stops me from turning off the sound when its getting too loud. And who really is that knowledgeable about the game anyways? Artosis (except when he goes on his biased lovefests of hyped Protoss players, Mvp, Nestea, Alive, and his hatred of SlayerS), Day9, Apollo? He's excellent, and deserves it. And what more could we want than a decent caster who works for Blizzard to be at our events? More Blizzard interaction with the scene.
Rotti, Rotti and Rotti again! RotterdaM is one of the best casters when it comes to knowledge! Not as good as Artosis of course, but he is still pretty awesome.
So stoked for the weekend, gonna be awesome!!
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I honestly feel sorry for all the grubby-fans, lol...
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On March 21 2012 06:19 Tarotis wrote:Show nested quote +On March 21 2012 05:05 Falconblade wrote:On March 21 2012 03:15 MLG_Adam wrote:On March 21 2012 02:16 OpticalPhonon wrote:On March 21 2012 00:09 MLG_Adam wrote:I don't get the Rob hate Also to clarify, Rob's presence has nothing to do with Blizzard. Little known fact is Rob's first esports job was with MLG casting our events at 16 years old. He left MLG to take a full time job with Blizzard. Even though I'll never forgive him for leaving, we love Rob's casting and will always welcome him back to our events! The issue is that all of a sudden this guy comes out of nowhere and is casting major events. His only casting credentials appear to be the "Terrible, terrible damage" videos and whatever part-time job you're referring too. In contrast, every other caster we see on stage has paid their dues putting in hundreds (or thousands) of hours into the community with little or no pay. Can you honestly say that if Rob Simpson wasn't working for Blizzard that he would be casting this? There's nothing wrong with his casting but there are many people in the community who are just as good, if not better. In fact, you have a bunch of them casting your Beta stream. Why not give the opportunity to people who have shown their love and dedication to the community instead of someone who appears to be nothing more than a carpetbagger. Edit: Adam actually states "Rob's presence has nothing to do with Blizzard." I mean, that's just the biggest pile of bullshit I've ever heard. Is this how the hiring process went: Adam: "Hey Rob remember all those years ago when you were 16 and you casted for us?" Rob: "No." Adam: "Well, we'd like you to cast again! It's a totally different game so we'll just start you off nice and easy by putting you in front of about a hundred thousand live viewers. Don't worry they're on the Internet, so they won't be critical if it goes badly." Rob: "I actually work for Blizzard now, so I can't." Adam: "Blizzard? Huh, what a coincidence the game you'll be casting is made by Blizzard!" Rob: "Wow, that must be a sign! I guess I'll take the job." Honest answers are never accepted I guess casting experience, existing job relationships, plus hands on experience for 5 years working in ESPORTS for the publisher of said title is not good enough credentials. You can be as dramatic as you like, I was being 100% honest. Rob is my friend, a former co worker, and we all feel he is a damn good caster. Rob's great as a caster. His voice is kind of pretty brilliant. And he knows enough of the game to be relevant. Hell he called most of the upsets and games in MLG Winter Arena, he understands how people play and what kind of form they are in. Normally I wouldn't post about how great he is, but haters will always post while those that like him will not because we normally don't have to when he's already included in the lineup. There are definitely more people that enjoy Rob's casting. Hell, our community has casters like TB, Husky, Wheat, and Rob is as knowledgeable as them. I don't mind all of those aforementioned, so Rob is fine too. I enjoy Rob's calm casting, it stops me from turning off the sound when its getting too loud. And who really is that knowledgeable about the game anyways? Artosis (except when he goes on his biased lovefests of hyped Protoss players, Mvp, Nestea, Alive, and his hatred of SlayerS), Day9, Apollo? He's excellent, and deserves it. And what more could we want than a decent caster who works for Blizzard to be at our events? More Blizzard interaction with the scene. Rotti, Rotti and Rotti again! RotterdaM is one of the best casters when it comes to knowledge! Not as good as Artosis of course, but he is still pretty awesome. So stoked for the weekend, gonna be awesome!!
I love Rotterdam. Brilliant caster, one of my favorites.
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I wish DeMuslim had been streaming when he got that news.
I'd like more player-casters too but with the way they're almost all already playing in the tourney that could be tough.
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On March 21 2012 00:53 SoloZergg wrote:Show nested quote +On March 21 2012 00:17 Vertical wrote:
LOL
sorry for the hate but...
HUK AGAINN gets the "easiest" group
why stack all the koreans ??? Ret is a friggin beast man, never how he's going to play. Same with Violet, who's been putting up some impressive games against VERY impressive opponents. So, I guess I kinda half-agree with you, HuK will probably crush them all, but I'd rather see Violet and Ret make it out.
I did not said that violet and ret are easy opponent
But compared to ganzi or mc ??
How lucky can this guy be, oh my gosh
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Why has nobody noticed that for some reason Thorzain is in the open bracket even though he qualified for group play? MVP, Leenock and Sjow must have all declined attending and so were replaced by Grubby, Haypro, Ganzi and SaSe... that's one ro32 loser too many from the Winter Arena and Thorzain lost his spot. Does anyone know why this is? Does Thorzain prefer to avoid group play for some crazy reason?
IMO Ganzi or Haypro need to be cut if Thorzain gets his rightful place. Ganzi did not even reach the online qualifier's ro8 so technically should not have been at the Winter Arena, which he dropped out of in the ro32 anyway, meaning he should not have qualified for group play. Haypro did not even bother to qualify (did he get some sort of free pass?), however he did rank very highly coming 7th at MLG Providence last year and performed fairly consistently throughout the season. Grubby and SaSe however both did legitimately qualify for the Winter Arena but were knocked out in the ro32.
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On March 21 2012 08:38 Mr.Brightside wrote:
Why has nobody noticed that for some reason Thorzain is in the open bracket even though he qualified for group play? MVP, Leenock and Sjow must have all declined attending and so were replaced by Grubby, Haypro, Ganzi and SaSe... that's one ro32 loser too many from the Winter Arena and Thorzain lost his spot. Does anyone know why this is? Does Thorzain prefer to avoid group play for some crazy reason?
IMO Ganzi or Haypro need to be cut if Thorzain gets his rightful place. Ganzi did not even reach the online qualifier's ro8 so technically should not have been at the Winter Arena, which he dropped out of in the ro32 anyway, meaning he should not have qualified for group play. Haypro did not even bother to qualify (did he get some sort of free pass?), however he did rank very highly coming 7th at MLG Providence last year and performed fairly consistently throughout the season. Grubby and SaSe however both did legitimately qualify for the Winter Arena but were knocked out in the ro32.
Recommend you check liquidpedia again, almost all you said is incorrect.
Thorzain got 17-24 at arena
Ganzi got top 16
MVP was 17-24 as well.
Haypro won the dropout bracket
etc etc
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Genuinely pleased to see Rob Simpson back.
Now I am glad I have Gold. Quadstream, anyone?
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On March 21 2012 08:54 Mr.Brightside wrote:Show nested quote +On March 21 2012 08:41 opterown wrote:On March 21 2012 08:38 Mr.Brightside wrote:
Why has nobody noticed that for some reason Thorzain is in the open bracket even though he qualified for group play? MVP, Leenock and Sjow must have all declined attending and so were replaced by Grubby, Haypro, Ganzi and SaSe... that's one ro32 loser too many from the Winter Arena and Thorzain lost his spot. Does anyone know why this is? Does Thorzain prefer to avoid group play for some crazy reason?
IMO Ganzi or Haypro need to be cut if Thorzain gets his rightful place. Ganzi did not even reach the online qualifier's ro8 so technically should not have been at the Winter Arena, which he dropped out of in the ro32 anyway, meaning he should not have qualified for group play. Haypro did not even bother to qualify (did he get some sort of free pass?), however he did rank very highly coming 7th at MLG Providence last year and performed fairly consistently throughout the season. Grubby and SaSe however both did legitimately qualify for the Winter Arena but were knocked out in the ro32. Recommend you check liquidpedia again, almost all you said is incorrect. Thorzain got 17-24 at arena Ganzi got top 16 MVP was 17-24 as well. Haypro won the dropout bracket etc etc Sorry I was just going by what was on MLG's site. It looked to me like it was top16 from the winners bracket that went through. Also, you should actually READ my full post.
I did read your whole post.
Thorzain didn't qualify, the others did. Grubby and Sase were beaten in WR1 but came through to LR3. As again, just check liquipedia.
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On March 21 2012 08:58 opterown wrote:Show nested quote +On March 21 2012 08:54 Mr.Brightside wrote:On March 21 2012 08:41 opterown wrote:On March 21 2012 08:38 Mr.Brightside wrote:
Why has nobody noticed that for some reason Thorzain is in the open bracket even though he qualified for group play? MVP, Leenock and Sjow must have all declined attending and so were replaced by Grubby, Haypro, Ganzi and SaSe... that's one ro32 loser too many from the Winter Arena and Thorzain lost his spot. Does anyone know why this is? Does Thorzain prefer to avoid group play for some crazy reason?
IMO Ganzi or Haypro need to be cut if Thorzain gets his rightful place. Ganzi did not even reach the online qualifier's ro8 so technically should not have been at the Winter Arena, which he dropped out of in the ro32 anyway, meaning he should not have qualified for group play. Haypro did not even bother to qualify (did he get some sort of free pass?), however he did rank very highly coming 7th at MLG Providence last year and performed fairly consistently throughout the season. Grubby and SaSe however both did legitimately qualify for the Winter Arena but were knocked out in the ro32. Recommend you check liquidpedia again, almost all you said is incorrect. Thorzain got 17-24 at arena Ganzi got top 16 MVP was 17-24 as well. Haypro won the dropout bracket etc etc Sorry I was just going by what was on MLG's site. It looked to me like it was top16 from the winners bracket that went through. Also, you should actually READ my full post. I did read your whole post. Thorzain didn't qualify, the others did. Grubby and Sase were beaten in WR1 but came through to LR3. As again, just check liquipedia.
Sorry, yes you're right, I shouldn't have looked at it through the MLG site instead of liquipedia. Please don't do the etc etc thing again, I was geniunely concerned that for some reason a player was missing out and then you have to add that at the end of the post. It's a douchey thing to do. Just correcting me would have sufficed.
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Free stream, yes, free stream for every game, no - previous MLGs I think they put 1/2 of the games on the paid streams. It's not just a SD vs. HD thing.
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Damn im home for the weekend from college til Sunday and have terrible internet.... Looks like ima have to break into someones house and steal their internet for 3 days
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Too many protoss players. PLEASE don't be another pvp final!
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