• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 23:49
CEST 05:49
KST 12:49
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL19] Finals Recap: Standing Tall9HomeStory Cup 27 - Info & Preview18Classic wins Code S Season 2 (2025)16Code S RO4 & Finals Preview: herO, Rogue, Classic, GuMiho0TL Team Map Contest #5: Presented by Monster Energy6
Community News
Flash Announces Hiatus From ASL54Weekly Cups (June 23-29): Reynor in world title form?12FEL Cracov 2025 (July 27) - $8000 live event16Esports World Cup 2025 - Final Player Roster16Weekly Cups (June 16-22): Clem strikes back1
StarCraft 2
General
The SCII GOAT: A statistical Evaluation The GOAT ranking of GOAT rankings Statistics for vetoed/disliked maps How does the number of casters affect your enjoyment of esports? Esports World Cup 2025 - Final Player Roster
Tourneys
Korean Starcraft League Week 77 Master Swan Open (Global Bronze-Master 2) RSL: Revival, a new crowdfunded tournament series [GSL 2025] Code S: Season 2 - Semi Finals & Finals $5,100+ SEL Season 2 Championship (SC: Evo)
Strategy
How did i lose this ZvP, whats the proper response Simple Questions Simple Answers
Custom Maps
[UMS] Zillion Zerglings
External Content
Mutation # 480 Moths to the Flame Mutation # 479 Worn Out Welcome Mutation # 478 Instant Karma Mutation # 477 Slow and Steady
Brood War
General
Player “Jedi” cheat on CSL Flash Announces Hiatus From ASL BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Unit and Spell Similarities Help: rep cant save
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL20] Grand Finals - Sunday 20:00 CET Small VOD Thread 2.0 [BSL20] GosuLeague RO16 - Tue & Wed 20:00+CET
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers I am doing this better than progamers do.
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Path of Exile What do you want from future RTS games? Beyond All Reason
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Trading/Investing Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Russo-Ukrainian War Thread The Games Industry And ATVI
Fan Clubs
SKT1 Classic Fan Club! Maru Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece [\m/] Heavy Metal Thread
Sports
Formula 1 Discussion 2024 - 2025 Football Thread NBA General Discussion TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 NHL Playoffs 2024
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
Blogs
Culture Clash in Video Games…
TrAiDoS
from making sc maps to makin…
Husyelt
Blog #2
tankgirl
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Trip to the Zoo
micronesia
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 623 users

MLG Groups and Casters - Page 24

Forum Index > SC2 General
501 CommentsPost a Reply
Prev 1 22 23 24 25 26 Next All
SovSov
Profile Joined September 2010
United States755 Posts
March 22 2012 05:44 GMT
#461
sorry if this isnt the right place to ask, but can spectators play SC2 on the computers there? if so, does it cost money? i don't mean to compete but i want to be able to play in a tournament on one of the days MLG is going on.
vaderseven
Profile Joined September 2008
United States2556 Posts
March 22 2012 14:34 GMT
#462
Does anyone know how much an HD pass for JUST this event will cost? I know they go sale at 6pm tonight but I cant find a price.

note: this is not the gold membership or freestream
Spaceneil8
Profile Joined February 2011
United States317 Posts
March 22 2012 14:39 GMT
#463
On March 22 2012 23:34 vaderseven wrote:
Does anyone know how much an HD pass for JUST this event will cost? I know they go sale at 6pm tonight but I cant find a price.

note: this is not the gold membership or freestream

It's 20. Every event except Providence was 10, and Providence was 50. Gold is still the much better deal tbh, but this event is 20.
Kammalleri
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada613 Posts
March 22 2012 14:45 GMT
#464
But, but but... Gold membership can't watch PPV for free!!
hugman
Profile Joined June 2009
Sweden4644 Posts
March 22 2012 15:28 GMT
#465
On March 21 2012 05:55 OpticalPhonon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2012 04:17 MLG_Adam wrote:
On March 21 2012 04:14 OpticalPhonon wrote:
On March 21 2012 03:15 MLG_Adam wrote:
On March 21 2012 02:16 OpticalPhonon wrote:
On March 21 2012 00:09 MLG_Adam wrote:
I don't get the Rob hate Also to clarify, Rob's presence has nothing to do with Blizzard. Little known fact is Rob's first esports job was with MLG casting our events at 16 years old. He left MLG to take a full time job with Blizzard. Even though I'll never forgive him for leaving, we love Rob's casting and will always welcome him back to our events!

The issue is that all of a sudden this guy comes out of nowhere and is casting major events. His only casting credentials appear to be the "Terrible, terrible damage" videos and whatever part-time job you're referring too. In contrast, every other caster we see on stage has paid their dues putting in hundreds (or thousands) of hours into the community with little or no pay. Can you honestly say that if Rob Simpson wasn't working for Blizzard that he would be casting this?

There's nothing wrong with his casting but there are many people in the community who are just as good, if not better. In fact, you have a bunch of them casting your Beta stream. Why not give the opportunity to people who have shown their love and dedication to the community instead of someone who appears to be nothing more than a carpetbagger.

Edit: Adam actually states "Rob's presence has nothing to do with Blizzard." I mean, that's just the biggest pile of bullshit I've ever heard. Is this how the hiring process went:
Adam: "Hey Rob remember all those years ago when you were 16 and you casted for us?"
Rob: "No."
Adam: "Well, we'd like you to cast again! It's a totally different game so we'll just start you off nice and easy by putting you in front of about a hundred thousand live viewers. Don't worry they're on the Internet, so they won't be critical if it goes badly."
Rob: "I actually work for Blizzard now, so I can't."
Adam: "Blizzard? Huh, what a coincidence the game you'll be casting is made by Blizzard!"
Rob: "Wow, that must be a sign! I guess I'll take the job."


Honest answers are never accepted I guess casting experience, existing job relationships, plus hands on experience for 5 years working in ESPORTS for the publisher of said title is not good enough credentials.

You can be as dramatic as you like, I was being 100% honest. Rob is my friend, a former co worker, and we all feel he is a damn good caster.

These are all valid reasons for hiring someone.

The only issue is that you're now stating that one of the primary reasons why you hired him is because he has worked for Blizzard for five years. This contradicts what you wrote earlier: "Rob's presence has nothing to do with Blizzard." If earlier in the thread you'd simply stated that "Yeah, he works for Blizzard and that makes him even more qualified for the position" I would have had less of a problem. But your earlier post came across as artificial as you tried to build him up as some sort of hard working community member that we just weren't aware of. While he may be a great guy who is a competent caster, at the end of the day he is a Blizzard employee and that's why he got the job over a community member.


The Blizzard reference is intended to highlight that he works on the game, understands the game, and has knowledge of tournaments/players. It is more of a resume highlight, e.g. he knows his shit.

Again, this comes across as disingenuous. I don't see the issue with just straight out saying that the main reason why he got this opportunity to cast was because he works for Blizzard. Is there really a need to brush that aside by calling it a "resume highlight"? If he's in his mid-20s and has worked there for five years it's probably the only thing of note on his resume. At the few events he has casted so far he has always been introduced as "Rob Simpson from Blizzard" so why are you all of a sudden trying to present him as something different? It's just bizarre and unnecessary especially from someone who just claimed that they were "being 100% honest".



I don't buy it either.
Look at how hard every other caster worked at getting to where they are now and compare it with how Rob comes out of nowhere, first seemingly as a joke, and then gets to keep casting. I think it's disrespectful towards casters working their butts off trying to get noticed, and towards the audience who deserve better.

I don't think he's a competent caster. Is he making an active effort to improve his casting, like all the other casters are? Now it's at the point where he's recognizable, so other events bring him on just for that. It's like being famous for being famous. I think it's repulsive.

If you want to have a handsome guy who's comfortable in front of a camera, which Rob Simpson is, then that's fine. You could at least be honest to yourselves about it. He has poor game knowledge, he has no real casting experience prior to MLG and then appears out of nowhere, seemingly because he's a Blizzard employee. It has a stink to it.
Kreggar
Profile Joined September 2011
United States83 Posts
March 22 2012 17:12 GMT
#466
looks like 4 groups of death to me. gonna be a sick MLG! race distribution: 50% P, 25% Z, 25% T!!!!

Now for a hopefully new perspective on the Rob argument (I'm no expert, just a business/human relations focused student).
I think the personal relationship Rob has with MLG and the other casters is being looked at in the wrong light. Yes MLG could haven chosen someone else from the community such as Husky, Tumba, Adebisi, Rotterdam, MrBitter, the list goes on and on. Other people may be great choices for reasons like game knowledge, hard work in the community, recent exposure or working for MLG on other tournaments, you name it. But here is the reason Rob was chosen: business. We all know MLG wants to be a successful, long-term business along with preserving their passion for Esports. Here are the business reasons for this decision:

MLG knows that Rob is going to do a great job. He has worked for them in the past and he now works for Blizzard. I doubt he could have gotten where he is today without trying to be excellent in everything he does, this is also evident in what the community has seen from him recently.

Rob knows all of the other casters and has worked with them recently. Just last weekend Rob was at RBLan with Day9 and Wheat. MLG Winter Arena was just a few weeks ago where he worked with this same team. I feel that the personal relationship between a caster pair cannot be underestimated. Any combination we see this weekend with be comfortable working together and the overall casting quality will be higher as a result.

Rob's game knowledge has never been an issue for me, and I don't feel that every other caster on the list is an expert. I'm fine with the fact that not everyone does the super in-depth analysis of Artosis or Day9, we need people who can comment on the action confidently and be entertaining at the same time. I don't want the caster to hold my hand through every moment of the action, and I think most community members can follow along with the action just fine when Artosis isn't there to help. Finally, MLG will almost certainly pair casters so that we get a commentary/analysis pair as often as possible, which means we won't see Tastosis every time one of the pair is on screen.

/end rant

My first real contribution to an argument on TL <3
StarCraft is the hardest, most beautiful game in the world.
ref4
Profile Joined March 2012
2933 Posts
March 22 2012 17:14 GMT
#467
man I will personally fund PsyStarcraft to compete/cast in an MLG :D I <3 that man!


too bad he's too busy having a real job lol
Neacant
Profile Joined February 2012
Germany40 Posts
March 22 2012 17:22 GMT
#468
since i will not be here to watch MLG until monday morning...

any way to get spoiler free vod watching on monday? :O
Nizzy
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States839 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-22 17:33:11
March 22 2012 17:30 GMT
#469
I swear if I buy a MLG GOLD membership and....

have to hear JP trying to cast again.

JP i'm begging you, please stick to just being a host. You don't have it. You're an average SC2 play by play caster at best. You have one tone of voice, which isn't exciting at all to me. I really like watching you JP, YOU'RE AMAZING FOR THE SC2 COMMUNITY/ESPORTS. All the shit you do with MLG/sotg/youtube its sick.

Just please please please stop trying to be a caster. You're not good, you're better at other things, focus on those. How does this keep happening? There's so many talented casters coming up.

How is MLG spending all this money to fly all these top players out but we can't get Apollo/TB or Rotter/Bitter over this guy? Unreal.
FloKi
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
1490 Posts
March 22 2012 22:21 GMT
#470
pretty sick groups!this MLG is gonna be amazing.
Where do whores go?
mRandy
Profile Joined March 2011
Sweden146 Posts
March 22 2012 22:24 GMT
#471
Aww poor Grubby. I will have faith tho and say that if he gets out of that group he'll take it. He's pvp is sneaky good might be able!

also stoked for the event.
http://sv.twitch.tv/ulfkennethz
jmbthirteen
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States10734 Posts
March 22 2012 22:24 GMT
#472
On March 23 2012 02:30 Nizzy wrote:
I swear if I buy a MLG GOLD membership and....

have to hear JP trying to cast again.

JP i'm begging you, please stick to just being a host. You don't have it. You're an average SC2 play by play caster at best. You have one tone of voice, which isn't exciting at all to me. I really like watching you JP, YOU'RE AMAZING FOR THE SC2 COMMUNITY/ESPORTS. All the shit you do with MLG/sotg/youtube its sick.

Just please please please stop trying to be a caster. You're not good, you're better at other things, focus on those. How does this keep happening? There's so many talented casters coming up.

How is MLG spending all this money to fly all these top players out but we can't get Apollo/TB or Rotter/Bitter over this guy? Unreal.

I like JP casting. He has great chemistry with Day9 and Tastosis. Some of his casts with Artosis have been pure gold.
www.superbeerbrothers.com
unnar
Profile Joined April 2011
Iceland211 Posts
March 22 2012 23:19 GMT
#473
Wait wont there be free stream?
HejaBVB
Profile Joined March 2012
Germany125 Posts
March 22 2012 23:23 GMT
#474
Husky > Rob Thompson

btw Polt will take it all!
TheRealViceroy
Profile Joined August 2010
United States16 Posts
March 22 2012 23:25 GMT
#475
i thought that JP McDaniel was in Pax east that sunday?
Artosis Pylon, if its good enough for a pro its good enough for me!
MLG-Kyle
Profile Joined November 2010
United States123 Posts
March 22 2012 23:27 GMT
#476
Hey guys, allow me to clarify on the pricing and product side:

For Free you get...
- Access to 2 StarCraft 2 Streams in up to 480p
- Access to the Halo: Reach Stream in up to 480p
- Access to the Fighters Stream (King of Figthers XIII, Soul Calibur V, and Mortal Kombat) in up to 480p
- You can watch any combination of the above streams at the same time.

As a Premium User you get...
- Access to 2 StarCraft 2 Streams in up to 1080p
- Access to 2 additional StarCraft 2 Streams in up to 1080p
- Access to the Halo: Reach Stream in up to 720p
- Access to the Fighters Stream (King of Figthers XIII, Soul Calibur V, and Mortal Kombat) in up to 720p
- No ads
- DVR functionality
- Near-instant VOD access in the player throughout the weekend
- You can watch up to five streams at one time and seamlessly switch between them

How do I become a premium user?

For Columbus, you have two options...:

Buy a Columbus HD Pass through the live player ($20)
- Head to our Live Viewing Page and attempt to access any premium feature:
- Select "High" or Ultra" on any stream
- Select either the StarCraft II Gameplay 2 or 3 stream
- Click the Gold "Get Premium" pop up icon in the bottom right of a stream.
- In the player, click "VOD", and then try to click on a VOD.

Buy a Gold Membership Pass in the MLG Store ($30)
- Gold Membership gets you premium access to a year of Championship Events (4 total)
- This product will no longer be available for purchase online as soon as Columbus ends
- Purchase here


If you have any other questions, I'll do my best to try and answer 'em for you guys. Things kick off on http://majorleaguegaming.com/live Friday at 5pm ET
mDuo13
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States307 Posts
March 23 2012 00:42 GMT
#477
I was thinking, "Wow, MarineKing got a hard group," but after looking at the other groups, I realized that all the groups are really stacked! Looking forward to this competition, for sure.
jmbthirteen
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States10734 Posts
March 23 2012 01:20 GMT
#478
On March 23 2012 08:25 TheRealViceroy wrote:
i thought that JP McDaniel was in Pax east that sunday?

Pax East is the same weekend as IPL 4, not MLG Columbus.
www.superbeerbrothers.com
Chicane
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7875 Posts
March 23 2012 01:52 GMT
#479
Poor Grubby. :'(
Twiggs
Profile Joined January 2011
United States600 Posts
March 23 2012 02:20 GMT
#480
Pool B stacked. Theres always one stacked group, and it usually has DRG in it. I really like Nanis chances this MLG though.
My life for Auir | FLASH . JD . BISU . HERO . Nony . Incontrol . FIGHTING
Prev 1 22 23 24 25 26 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Korean StarCraft League
03:00
Week 77
EnkiAlexander 68
davetesta66
HKG_Chickenman56
IntoTheiNu 31
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Nina 243
Livibee 175
PiLiPiLi 13
StarCraft: Brood War
Sea 5451
NaDa 105
Sharp 79
Icarus 9
Dota 2
monkeys_forever556
NeuroSwarm116
febbydoto18
LuMiX1
League of Legends
JimRising 817
Other Games
summit1g11651
WinterStarcraft440
Organizations
Other Games
BasetradeTV60
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 15 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH266
• Hupsaiya 97
• Kozan
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• sooper7s
• intothetv
• Migwel
• IndyKCrew
StarCraft: Brood War
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
League of Legends
• Doublelift5995
• Lourlo810
• Stunt349
Upcoming Events
CranKy Ducklings
6h 11m
RSL Revival
6h 11m
ByuN vs Cham
herO vs Reynor
FEL
12h 11m
RSL Revival
1d 6h
Clem vs Classic
SHIN vs Cure
FEL
1d 8h
BSL: ProLeague
1d 14h
Dewalt vs Bonyth
Replay Cast
2 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
3 days
The PondCast
4 days
Replay Cast
4 days
[ Show More ]
RSL Revival
5 days
Replay Cast
5 days
RSL Revival
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

BSL 2v2 Season 3
HSC XXVII
Heroes 10 EU

Ongoing

JPL Season 2
BSL Season 20
Acropolis #3
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 2
CSL 17: 2025 SUMMER
Copa Latinoamericana 4
Championship of Russia 2025
RSL Revival: Season 1
Murky Cup #2
BLAST.tv Austin Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 7
IEM Dallas 2025
PGL Astana 2025
Asian Champions League '25
BLAST Rivals Spring 2025
MESA Nomadic Masters
CCT Season 2 Global Finals
IEM Melbourne 2025

Upcoming

2025 ACS Season 2: Qualifier
CSLPRO Last Chance 2025
2025 ACS Season 2
CSLPRO Chat StarLAN 3
K-Championship
uThermal 2v2 Main Event
SEL Season 2 Championship
FEL Cracov 2025
Esports World Cup 2025
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.