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Twiggs
Profile Joined January 2011
United States600 Posts
March 23 2012 02:25 GMT
#481
On March 23 2012 00:28 hugman wrote:
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On March 21 2012 05:55 OpticalPhonon wrote:
On March 21 2012 04:17 MLG_Adam wrote:
On March 21 2012 04:14 OpticalPhonon wrote:
On March 21 2012 03:15 MLG_Adam wrote:
On March 21 2012 02:16 OpticalPhonon wrote:
On March 21 2012 00:09 MLG_Adam wrote:
I don't get the Rob hate Also to clarify, Rob's presence has nothing to do with Blizzard. Little known fact is Rob's first esports job was with MLG casting our events at 16 years old. He left MLG to take a full time job with Blizzard. Even though I'll never forgive him for leaving, we love Rob's casting and will always welcome him back to our events!

The issue is that all of a sudden this guy comes out of nowhere and is casting major events. His only casting credentials appear to be the "Terrible, terrible damage" videos and whatever part-time job you're referring too. In contrast, every other caster we see on stage has paid their dues putting in hundreds (or thousands) of hours into the community with little or no pay. Can you honestly say that if Rob Simpson wasn't working for Blizzard that he would be casting this?

There's nothing wrong with his casting but there are many people in the community who are just as good, if not better. In fact, you have a bunch of them casting your Beta stream. Why not give the opportunity to people who have shown their love and dedication to the community instead of someone who appears to be nothing more than a carpetbagger.

Edit: Adam actually states "Rob's presence has nothing to do with Blizzard." I mean, that's just the biggest pile of bullshit I've ever heard. Is this how the hiring process went:
Adam: "Hey Rob remember all those years ago when you were 16 and you casted for us?"
Rob: "No."
Adam: "Well, we'd like you to cast again! It's a totally different game so we'll just start you off nice and easy by putting you in front of about a hundred thousand live viewers. Don't worry they're on the Internet, so they won't be critical if it goes badly."
Rob: "I actually work for Blizzard now, so I can't."
Adam: "Blizzard? Huh, what a coincidence the game you'll be casting is made by Blizzard!"
Rob: "Wow, that must be a sign! I guess I'll take the job."


Honest answers are never accepted I guess casting experience, existing job relationships, plus hands on experience for 5 years working in ESPORTS for the publisher of said title is not good enough credentials.

You can be as dramatic as you like, I was being 100% honest. Rob is my friend, a former co worker, and we all feel he is a damn good caster.

These are all valid reasons for hiring someone.

The only issue is that you're now stating that one of the primary reasons why you hired him is because he has worked for Blizzard for five years. This contradicts what you wrote earlier: "Rob's presence has nothing to do with Blizzard." If earlier in the thread you'd simply stated that "Yeah, he works for Blizzard and that makes him even more qualified for the position" I would have had less of a problem. But your earlier post came across as artificial as you tried to build him up as some sort of hard working community member that we just weren't aware of. While he may be a great guy who is a competent caster, at the end of the day he is a Blizzard employee and that's why he got the job over a community member.


The Blizzard reference is intended to highlight that he works on the game, understands the game, and has knowledge of tournaments/players. It is more of a resume highlight, e.g. he knows his shit.

Again, this comes across as disingenuous. I don't see the issue with just straight out saying that the main reason why he got this opportunity to cast was because he works for Blizzard. Is there really a need to brush that aside by calling it a "resume highlight"? If he's in his mid-20s and has worked there for five years it's probably the only thing of note on his resume. At the few events he has casted so far he has always been introduced as "Rob Simpson from Blizzard" so why are you all of a sudden trying to present him as something different? It's just bizarre and unnecessary especially from someone who just claimed that they were "being 100% honest".



I don't buy it either.
Look at how hard every other caster worked at getting to where they are now and compare it with how Rob comes out of nowhere, first seemingly as a joke, and then gets to keep casting. I think it's disrespectful towards casters working their butts off trying to get noticed, and towards the audience who deserve better.

I don't think he's a competent caster. Is he making an active effort to improve his casting, like all the other casters are? Now it's at the point where he's recognizable, so other events bring him on just for that. It's like being famous for being famous. I think it's repulsive.

If you want to have a handsome guy who's comfortable in front of a camera, which Rob Simpson is, then that's fine. You could at least be honest to yourselves about it. He has poor game knowledge, he has no real casting experience prior to MLG and then appears out of nowhere, seemingly because he's a Blizzard employee. It has a stink to it.

He's a good caster in my opinion. Kinda on the meh side. But by missing the whole "grind" of becoming noticed like all other casters he missed out on that experience. When a caster struggles to become noticed and finally gets his shot, he becomes better. Like Husky when he first started I thought wasn't really great, but now I love his casting and love his attitude of always being appreciative of the shot he's given.
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DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45532 Posts
March 23 2012 02:26 GMT
#482
Yay Protoss representing!!! :D
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45532 Posts
March 23 2012 02:27 GMT
#483
On March 23 2012 11:20 R3demption wrote:
Pool B stacked. Theres always one stacked group, and it usually has DRG in it. I really like Nanis chances this MLG though.


Did you miss Pool A?
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
RaiKageRyu
Profile Joined August 2009
Canada4773 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-23 04:39:00
March 23 2012 04:37 GMT
#484
The Rob hate is ridiculous. He has a quality that no amount of hard work can ever achieve: The perfect broadcasting voice.

Not to mention he has good humour and naturally adjusts his style to fit his partner no matter who they are.

He could cast anything with anyone and make it look professional.
Someone call down the Thunder?
Dalguno
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States2446 Posts
March 23 2012 05:47 GMT
#485
On March 23 2012 13:37 RaiKageRyu wrote:
The Rob hate is ridiculous. He has a quality that no amount of hard work can ever achieve: The perfect broadcasting voice.

Not to mention he has good humour and naturally adjusts his style to fit his partner no matter who they are.

He could cast anything with anyone and make it look professional.


Bam. The guy is just straight up loveable. On stream, he's suave, sounds great, and makes things sound awesome. No awkward situations. He doesn't say extreme things that make people mad. Even if his game knowledge isn't perfect, he doesn't let you know it.
"I'm gonna keep making drones cause I'm a baller, and ballers make drones." -Snute
FGFGFG
Profile Joined March 2012
Netherlands21 Posts
March 23 2012 06:43 GMT
#486
MLG site says it starts at
2:00pm PST (-8)
5:00pm EST (-5)
9:00pm GMT (+0)
6:00am KST (+9)

Confusing.


Oiseaux
Profile Joined May 2011
United States676 Posts
March 23 2012 07:23 GMT
#487
On March 23 2012 14:47 Dalguno wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2012 13:37 RaiKageRyu wrote:
The Rob hate is ridiculous. He has a quality that no amount of hard work can ever achieve: The perfect broadcasting voice.

Not to mention he has good humour and naturally adjusts his style to fit his partner no matter who they are.

He could cast anything with anyone and make it look professional.


Bam. The guy is just straight up loveable. On stream, he's suave, sounds great, and makes things sound awesome. No awkward situations. He doesn't say extreme things that make people mad. Even if his game knowledge isn't perfect, he doesn't let you know it.


Maybe because he doesn't say extreme things that make people mad is exactly what makes people mad.

Jokes aside, I never got the whole lack of game knowledge argument. Save for someone like Artosis, this argument could honestly be made for pretty much any other caster out there. Now if one is hating on every other caster out there for that reason too ... well ... at least they're being consistent with their rage.

While Rob isn't perfect (obviously no caster is), he makes a fairly good secondary caster when paired correctly. While I don't want to turn this into a caster bashing post, I can think of some casters no matter who they're paired with, or solo, that just feel obnoxious or boring to listen to at times.

And the whole "just admit you hired him because he works at Blizzard" nonsense: No shit that's why he was hired. He works for the game company that makes the game you're watching for hours on end. To say he hasn't contributed to the community is just pure stupidity; if working for Blizzard isn't contributing to the SC2 community, fuck I don't know what is.
"[S]o be ready to kiss a few donkeys with glued-on paper horns during your unicorn hunt." -Some stupid 4x4 magazine
theBALLS
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Singapore2935 Posts
March 23 2012 07:31 GMT
#488
On March 23 2012 15:43 FGFGFG wrote:
MLG site says it starts at
2:00pm PST (-8)
5:00pm EST (-5)
9:00pm GMT (+0)
6:00am KST (+9)

Confusing.



The -8, -5, etc are all relative to GMT.
If you lose the stick, you'll always have theBALLS.
Rash_Pocket
Profile Joined November 2011
3 Posts
March 23 2012 08:00 GMT
#489
OMFG best tournament to date these players are amazing
SafeAsCheese
Profile Joined June 2011
United States4924 Posts
March 23 2012 08:05 GMT
#490
I wish MLG wouild use a system to spread races out instead of using rankings :/

There should be every race in every group
Slangen
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden1166 Posts
March 23 2012 09:41 GMT
#491
On March 21 2012 13:33 chosenkerrigan wrote:
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On March 20 2012 08:18 dragonborn wrote:
On March 20 2012 08:17 Femari wrote:
On March 20 2012 08:08 dragonborn wrote:
naniwa's group is so easy!

go go nani <3

I wouldn't call drawing the best player in the world easy. Rest of the group maybe, but DRG?

naniwa can beat him.


anyone can beat anyone, it's just Naniwa MOST LIKELY won't beat him

NaNi WILL beat him. Most likely
Fnatic - TSM - EG
TheNessman
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States4158 Posts
March 23 2012 10:15 GMT
#492
someone should put in the OP that it is this weekend, i literally didn't know this event was this weekend until just now

also is it PPV?
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Let it Raine
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada1245 Posts
March 23 2012 10:24 GMT
#493
no
Grandmaster Zerg x14. Diamond 1 LoL. MLG 50, Halo 3. Raine.
Vira
Profile Joined November 2010
573 Posts
March 23 2012 10:26 GMT
#494
When the open bracket starts?
DBrave
Profile Joined December 2010
Serbia379 Posts
March 23 2012 10:34 GMT
#495
Sorry for my lack of knowledge
please tell me is there gonna be free stream ?
If not give me link to buy cheapest possible ticket to stream, I dont have much money but I dont want to miss these 3 days of awesomeness :D
gg wp
TheOnlyNurSo
Profile Joined February 2012
Germany50 Posts
March 23 2012 16:10 GMT
#496
Socke can make it!!!

Fight!!!!
Dac
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada538 Posts
March 23 2012 16:15 GMT
#497
On March 23 2012 19:34 DBrave wrote:
Sorry for my lack of knowledge
please tell me is there gonna be free stream ?
If not give me link to buy cheapest possible ticket to stream, I dont have much money but I dont want to miss these 3 days of awesomeness :D


free stream will be avaliable just go to the mlgpro.com website.
Jiddra
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden2685 Posts
March 23 2012 16:18 GMT
#498
On March 21 2012 00:09 MLG_Adam wrote:
I don't get the Rob hate Also to clarify, Rob's presence has nothing to do with Blizzard. Little known fact is Rob's first esports job was with MLG casting our events at 16 years old. He left MLG to take a full time job with Blizzard. Even though I'll never forgive him for leaving, we love Rob's casting and will always welcome him back to our events!


I guess this is what Kennigit meant with "The old boys club".

That he now happens to be working with esports at Blizzard has nothing to do with it, of course. Perhaps just a bit of icing on the cake.
I am not young enough to know everything.
Cokefreak
Profile Joined June 2011
Finland8095 Posts
March 23 2012 16:21 GMT
#499
On March 24 2012 01:18 Jiddra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 21 2012 00:09 MLG_Adam wrote:
I don't get the Rob hate Also to clarify, Rob's presence has nothing to do with Blizzard. Little known fact is Rob's first esports job was with MLG casting our events at 16 years old. He left MLG to take a full time job with Blizzard. Even though I'll never forgive him for leaving, we love Rob's casting and will always welcome him back to our events!


I guess this is what Kennigit meant with "The old boys club".

That he now happens to be working with esports at Blizzard has nothing to do with it, of course. Perhaps just a bit of icing on the cake.

I will always love Rob because of his epic Mothership joke. <3
ThaZenith
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada3116 Posts
March 23 2012 17:48 GMT
#500
Hah group B is so easy compared to the others.
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