EPTGanzi and Taeja leave SlayerS - Page 27
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Mouzone
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MaNaVoId
492 Posts
On March 14 2012 19:09 Mouzone wrote: Interesting more and more koreans are becoming "foreigners". Soon every foreigner event will practically be koreanfests and i'm fearing for the foreigner scene when that happens. As it looks now it doesn't seem like they're up to the task. Then tell the foreigners to freakingly just practice as hard as the koreans, is that sooooo difficult? | ||
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Tesla12
Serbia71 Posts
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MaNaVoId
492 Posts
On March 14 2012 19:21 Tesla12 wrote: Koreans will always be better, because they have more motivation to practice, people are more suportive in korea. I cant think of how foreigners should be less motivated than koreans. Foreigners get more exposure to internatioal tournaments whereas only a few koreans can. Foreigners get salaries from their team whereas koreans dont. If anything, foreigners should be more motivated than koreans. It is just that they choose to not practice as hard as them. Just take a look at EG, their training facilities are the best, the EG lair is the best sc2 training house in the world and they get probably the highest salaries among progamers. But take a look at their non-korean recruits, can any of them stand a chance against an average korean players who do not get the same privileges as them? | ||
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Hardigan
Switzerland1297 Posts
On March 14 2012 19:29 MaNaVoId wrote: I cant think of how foreigners should be less motivated than koreans. Foreigners get more exposure to internatioal tournaments whereas only a few koreans can. Foreigners get salaries from their team whereas koreans dont. If anything, foreigners should be more motivated than koreans. It is just that they choose to not practice as hard as them. Just take a look at EG, their training facilities are the best, the EG lair is the best sc2 training house in the world and they get probably the highest salaries among progamers. But take a look at their non-korean recruits, can any of them stand a chance against an average korean players who do not get the same privileges as them? Yes, they do. Demu, Idra and Huk clearly have a chance. Maybe not every single person on EG, but that's normal for nearly every Team to have players that are better than their Teammates. | ||
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MaNaVoId
492 Posts
On March 14 2012 19:34 Hardigan wrote: Yes, they do. Demu, Idra and Huk clearly have a chance. Maybe not every single person on EG, but that's normal for nearly every Team to have players that are better than their Teammates. Idra: We have already seen enough of how this guy gets torn apart by average koreans. Demuslim: When is the last time this guy gets placed high even in foreign tournaments? Huk: Huk is considered as a korean recruit just like how select is considered as a foreigner. But even so, since joining EG, his results have been deteriorating. | ||
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TRnoSki
United Kingdom51 Posts
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HornyHerring
Papua New Guinea1059 Posts
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MaV_gGSC
Canada1345 Posts
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aintz
Canada5624 Posts
foreign teams pay more. end of discussion | ||
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purecarnagge
719 Posts
On March 13 2012 17:52 Megakenny wrote: Yeah, I was saying if they drummed up some sponsors, obviously they've been looking. Yes, you drum up some sponsors and I'm sure TL would love you. Companies don't just fork $$ over. They look for a ROI. E-sports has a very bad short term ROI. Also it doesn't translate well to non technology or non gaming businesses. That ROI goes down even more. The fact that you posted, what you posted, just shows how much of a lack of understanding you have. I believe there is a nice show/podcast you can download on wednesday afternoons at 1pm now. Maybe you should watch/listen to that to understand a small part of the e-sports business side. | ||
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GodOfWar
870 Posts
would be the sickest all terran lineup ever created in SC2 picture this  fnatic.aLivefnatic.GanZifnatic.TaeJafnatic.Rainthen TSL goes down and Polt teams up with his friend aLive too.haha shit would get serious. | ||
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BronzeKnee
United States5218 Posts
On March 14 2012 20:31 MaNaVoId wrote: Idra: We have already seen enough of how this guy gets torn apart by average koreans. Huk: Huk is considered as a korean recruit just like how select is considered as a foreigner. But even so, since joining EG, his results have been deteriorating. [/QUOTE] I'm so sick of this kind of garbage. Idra loses to Koreans, yes. But he also beats Koreans. Remember the MLG run of Boxer, Hongun and then Bomber? Remember when he took out Revival and then Puma at IEM? And Huk, he has been doing amazing. He won MLG Orlando, and just did well at the Winter Arena, and regularly takes games off Koreans. Fact is, these guys lose to Korean players, and also beat Koreans. You can't expect them to win every game and series, but they both have results that are more impressive than 75% of Korean players in the GSL. | ||
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Bagration
United States18282 Posts
On March 14 2012 19:29 MaNaVoId wrote: I cant think of how foreigners should be less motivated than koreans. Foreigners get more exposure to internatioal tournaments whereas only a few koreans can. Foreigners get salaries from their team whereas koreans dont. If anything, foreigners should be more motivated than koreans. It is just that they choose to not practice as hard as them. Just take a look at EG, their training facilities are the best, the EG lair is the best sc2 training house in the world and they get probably the highest salaries among progamers. But take a look at their non-korean recruits, can any of them stand a chance against an average korean players who do not get the same privileges as them? There are a lot of factors. In Korea, the concentration of gamers is pretty high, and if you already live in Seoul, living in a teamhouse and participating in the GSL isn't as bad as someone living in NA who has to fly to MLGs or IPLs. Furthermore, living in a teamhouse in Korea allows you to focus mainly on the game, while progamers in the foreign scene can't often live in teamhouses because of the geographic and low concentration of team houses. This means that they either have to live with their parents or find ways to get income. The latter forces them to spend less time practicing. EG's players represent a very small sample of the foreign scene's pros, and you can't just use EG as a model for all foreigners. | ||
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GodOfWar
870 Posts
I'm so sick of this kind of garbage. Idra loses to Koreans, yes. But he also beats Koreans. Remember the MLG run of Boxer, Hongun and then Bomber? Remember when he took out Revival and then Puma at IEM? And Huk, he has been doing amazing. He won MLG Orlando, and just did well at the Winter Arena, and regularly takes games off Koreans. Fact is, these guys lose to Korean players, and also beat Koreans. You can't expect them to win every game and series, but they both have results that are more impressive than 75% of Korean players in the GSL. more like 7,5 % IdrA literally gets stomped by any Code S guy. and your reference matches were like from lightyears ago. recent stuff including a whooping 0-4 against TaeJa, to proceed with a nothing less astonishing 0-4 against aLive. nuff said, bro - fanboys gonna hate. | ||
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jj33
802 Posts
I'm so sick of this kind of garbage. Idra loses to Koreans, yes. But he also beats Koreans. Remember the MLG run of Boxer, Hongun and then Bomber? Remember when he took out Revival and then Puma at IEM? And Huk, he has been doing amazing. He won MLG Orlando, and just did well at the Winter Arena, and regularly takes games off Koreans. Fact is, these guys lose to Korean players, and also beat Koreans. You can't expect them to win every game and series, but they both have results that are more impressive than 75% of Korean players in the GSL. [/QUOTE] They lose to Koreans way more than win vs them. Idra loses wayyyy more, hes like 2-132123 this year. He won a relatively very weak IEM. Huk didn't do well at MLG despite his placing in winter arena. He got absolutely wasted by mkp and drg. | ||
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chriZqq
141 Posts
On March 15 2012 00:49 GodOfWar wrote: would be the sickest all terran lineup ever created in SC2 picture this fnatic.aLivefnatic.GanZifnatic.TaeJafnatic.Rainthen TSL goes down and Polt teams up with his friend aLive too.haha shit would get serious. 1 Protoss to rape them all | ||
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tMomiji
United States1115 Posts
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Bagration
United States18282 Posts
Taeja and Polt have very strong TvPs | ||
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JohnMatrix
France1358 Posts
On March 15 2012 03:41 OmiDeLta wrote: Wow, the SlayerS guys are just leaving in droves, it seems. o.o All these Koreans looking for forgein teams today...I wonder what the reason is? you really don't see the reason ? | ||
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