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GSL Season 2 Code S players (Polt & NaNiwa seeded) - Page 9

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ceaRshaf
Profile Joined August 2009
Romania4926 Posts
March 12 2012 11:56 GMT
#161
On March 12 2012 20:53 bana wrote:
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On March 12 2012 20:51 Kiyo. wrote:
On March 12 2012 20:49 bana wrote:
On March 12 2012 20:41 Kiyo. wrote:
On March 12 2012 20:32 bana wrote:
1. Banning nani based on probe rushing a meaningless game was moronic, they realized it.


No, it wasnt. With this logic, every showmatch is meanlingless and is supposed to be a "probe rush game".


They are when they have no prize money.


So, he got price money for it.


This would make sense, except for the fact that it wasn't a show match.


Of course it was a showmatch.


There was no extra money for winning, so no extra benefit for taking the game seriously.



He got money for playing all group matches properly, and not throwing games.


He got money for competing. By the time he had to play Nestea there was no competition left. It was wasted time.
Mess with the best, die like the rest.
bana
Profile Joined September 2011
Germany22 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-12 11:59:39
March 12 2012 11:56 GMT
#162
On March 12 2012 20:54 Cokefreak wrote:
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On March 12 2012 20:53 bana wrote:
On March 12 2012 20:51 Kiyo. wrote:
On March 12 2012 20:49 bana wrote:
On March 12 2012 20:41 Kiyo. wrote:
On March 12 2012 20:32 bana wrote:
1. Banning nani based on probe rushing a meaningless game was moronic, they realized it.


No, it wasnt. With this logic, every showmatch is meanlingless and is supposed to be a "probe rush game".


They are when they have no prize money.


So, he got price money for it.


This would make sense, except for the fact that it wasn't a show match.


Of course it was a showmatch.


There was no extra money for winning, so no extra benefit for taking the game seriously.



He got money for playing all group matches properly, and not throwing games.

Please let's not start this discussion again, it was already done to death back when it happened.


And some dont understand, throwing this game was a stupid decision.

He got money for competing. By the time he had to play Nestea there was no competition left. It was wasted time.


Competing included to play ALL group matches properly. And playing a live streamed showmatch against one of the best zerg players is surely not wasted time, since he went to ladder after the cup anyway.
ceaRshaf
Profile Joined August 2009
Romania4926 Posts
March 12 2012 11:57 GMT
#163
On March 12 2012 20:55 Rhaegar_tar wrote:
Naniwa will lose again every match...this is getting ridiculous.Huk would've been a much better canditate, i feel like he's more of a "korean" player than Naniwa, so is Stephano btw...


The huk i saw at this mlg didn't seem a player with a plan. Let's just make 9 gates and cross our fingers.
Mess with the best, die like the rest.
Aunvilgod
Profile Joined December 2011
2653 Posts
March 12 2012 11:58 GMT
#164
HuK should´ve gotten into Code S. Ohwell.
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Love and Justice
Profile Joined August 2011
United States87 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-12 11:59:24
March 12 2012 11:58 GMT
#165
On March 12 2012 20:55 McPricE wrote:
I really don't get it - does PuMa just not want to play in Korea a la Stephano? I cant see this being the case. I mean, not to hate, but hes much more qualified than nani based on results.


PuMa didn't even play in the preliminaries, thought him and Polt was going to get the Code S spots.
"No banglings, no problem." (ZeNEXLine)
hunts
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2113 Posts
March 12 2012 11:58 GMT
#166
On March 12 2012 20:49 bennyaus wrote:
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On March 12 2012 20:42 ceaRshaf wrote:
On March 12 2012 20:34 zezamer wrote:
On March 12 2012 20:29 -TesteR- wrote:
1. Banning nani based on probe rushing a meaningless game was moronic, they realized it.

2. The ONLY foreigner to have beaten both Mvp and Nestea in Bo3 series multiple times, as well as many other high level wins.

Literally could not have made a better choice for a seed than nani, he is clearly the most impressive foreigner.


And has 8% (1-12) win ratio in GSL.


When was the last time there was the best acknowledged foreigner in the GSL not just some foreigners like idra,sen,morrow,huk to fill the spots?


Like it or not, at least HuK had proven he was Code S worthy of multiple season after a Code A invite and definitely shouldn't be lumped in with IdrA/Morrow who lost all games after being seeded in Code S/Up and Down. Sen won some games too, and has consistently proven himself to be a top class foreigner. I don't think you can definitively say that Nani or Stephano are far enough ahead of HuK or Sen based off of records.


Like it or not Idra and Sen earned their way into code S back before there was any sort of seeding for code A for anyone. Unlike other foreigners who have been seeded in.
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chambertin
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1704 Posts
March 12 2012 11:59 GMT
#167
Naniwa hwaiting! sick seeding!
"I know one thing, that I know nothing" - Socrates?
00Visor
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
4337 Posts
March 12 2012 12:01 GMT
#168
These are the best choices
Nani fighting!
Phays
Profile Joined January 2012
Sweden162 Posts
March 12 2012 12:02 GMT
#169
Polt wasn't a surprise at all, but naniwa? well I am really happy he got the seed atleast!
TAMinator
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia2706 Posts
March 12 2012 12:03 GMT
#170
Naniwa couldnt even make it passed Code A. Pretty sure he has no chance.
GreyKnight
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4720 Posts
March 12 2012 12:03 GMT
#171
On March 12 2012 20:46 Yonnua wrote:
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On March 12 2012 20:44 blackone wrote:
On March 12 2012 20:42 ceaRshaf wrote:
On March 12 2012 20:34 zezamer wrote:
On March 12 2012 20:29 -TesteR- wrote:
1. Banning nani based on probe rushing a meaningless game was moronic, they realized it.

2. The ONLY foreigner to have beaten both Mvp and Nestea in Bo3 series multiple times, as well as many other high level wins.

Literally could not have made a better choice for a seed than nani, he is clearly the most impressive foreigner.


And has 8% (1-12) win ratio in GSL.



So freaking what he has that old record? He could have 0-100 win ration if he can constantly beat top koreans now.

If he was able to beat Koreans he could just qualify through Code A like everyone else.


You mean like Coca, a Code S zerg who is top 10 on the korean ladder? Oh wait, he didn't make it through the qualifiers.


Coca has not been Code S nor played in any tourney for a long time, it's not even a good argument. Being in Code S is important to actually being Code S level imo.
ceaRshaf
Profile Joined August 2009
Romania4926 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-12 12:03:54
March 12 2012 12:03 GMT
#172
On March 12 2012 21:03 TAMinator wrote:
Naniwa couldnt even make it passed Code A. Pretty sure he has no chance.


Has he ever tried code A?
Mess with the best, die like the rest.
Gevna
Profile Joined August 2010
France2332 Posts
March 12 2012 12:03 GMT
#173
On March 12 2012 20:49 bennyaus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2012 20:42 ceaRshaf wrote:
On March 12 2012 20:34 zezamer wrote:
On March 12 2012 20:29 -TesteR- wrote:
1. Banning nani based on probe rushing a meaningless game was moronic, they realized it.

2. The ONLY foreigner to have beaten both Mvp and Nestea in Bo3 series multiple times, as well as many other high level wins.

Literally could not have made a better choice for a seed than nani, he is clearly the most impressive foreigner.


And has 8% (1-12) win ratio in GSL.


When was the last time there was the best acknowledged foreigner in the GSL not just some foreigners like idra,sen,morrow,huk to fill the spots?


Like it or not, at least HuK had proven he was Code S worthy of multiple season after a Code A invite and definitely shouldn't be lumped in with IdrA/Morrow who lost all games after being seeded in Code S/Up and Down. Sen won some games too, and has consistently proven himself to be a top class foreigner. I don't think you can definitively say that Nani or Stephano are far enough ahead of HuK or Sen based off of records.

But records dont make good games. Today, I'm pretty sure that Nani is in a better shape than Huk, even if Huk has accomplished more than Nani in data.
Bagi
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany6799 Posts
March 12 2012 12:05 GMT
#174
On March 12 2012 20:58 Aunvilgod wrote:
HuK should´ve gotten into Code S. Ohwell.

He still got a spot in the up and downs.
ceaRshaf
Profile Joined August 2009
Romania4926 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-12 12:05:40
March 12 2012 12:05 GMT
#175
On March 12 2012 21:03 GreyKnight wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2012 20:46 Yonnua wrote:
On March 12 2012 20:44 blackone wrote:
On March 12 2012 20:42 ceaRshaf wrote:
On March 12 2012 20:34 zezamer wrote:
On March 12 2012 20:29 -TesteR- wrote:
1. Banning nani based on probe rushing a meaningless game was moronic, they realized it.

2. The ONLY foreigner to have beaten both Mvp and Nestea in Bo3 series multiple times, as well as many other high level wins.

Literally could not have made a better choice for a seed than nani, he is clearly the most impressive foreigner.


And has 8% (1-12) win ratio in GSL.



So freaking what he has that old record? He could have 0-100 win ration if he can constantly beat top koreans now.

If he was able to beat Koreans he could just qualify through Code A like everyone else.


You mean like Coca, a Code S zerg who is top 10 on the korean ladder? Oh wait, he didn't make it through the qualifiers.


Coca has not been Code S nor played in any tourney for a long time, it's not even a good argument. Being in Code S is important to actually being Code S level imo.


Code S level means you get in Code S. Naniwa got in code S because of some merits, not just random draw. So, by the rules, he is code S level.

Many players get in code S. No all of them have to be champions of the league.
Mess with the best, die like the rest.
Vardant
Profile Joined November 2010
Czech Republic620 Posts
March 12 2012 12:07 GMT
#176
GOM finally comes to their senses, can't wait!
Spec
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Taiwan931 Posts
March 12 2012 12:07 GMT
#177
I thought certain probe events in the past prevents any GSL seeds to be bestowed upon the Naniwa. But nevertheless, congrats and hope he goes far in S.
Eye for an eye make the world go blind - Gandhi
hunts
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2113 Posts
March 12 2012 12:07 GMT
#178
On March 12 2012 21:03 ceaRshaf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2012 21:03 TAMinator wrote:
Naniwa couldnt even make it passed Code A. Pretty sure he has no chance.


Has he ever tried code A?


Yes he has. Naniwas record in code A is I believe 1-10?
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0ne
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Spain2464 Posts
March 12 2012 12:11 GMT
#179
On March 12 2012 20:55 Rhaegar_tar wrote:
Naniwa will lose again every match...this is getting ridiculous.Huk would've been a much better canditate, i feel like he's more of a "korean" player than Naniwa, so is Stephano btw...

Naniwa has been in korea for a while, he lives in the Startale house and trains 8+ hours a day. How in the hell is Stephano more similiar to korean players than Naniwa?
Kiyo.
Profile Joined November 2010
United States2284 Posts
March 12 2012 12:17 GMT
#180
On March 12 2012 21:07 hunts wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 12 2012 21:03 ceaRshaf wrote:
On March 12 2012 21:03 TAMinator wrote:
Naniwa couldnt even make it passed Code A. Pretty sure he has no chance.


Has he ever tried code A?


Yes he has. Naniwas record in code A is I believe 1-10?


Posted on it earlier in this thread:
On March 12 2012 18:55 Kiyo. wrote:
MMA got seeded with a 7-6 record in Code A. It's not a very good indicator on whether or not you deserve to be in Code S. Naniwa is 0-6 in Code A but the first 2 losses came right after he got off a plane and had just gotten to Korea. And the other 4 losses came to Lucky who most consider to have a top 2 ZvP in Korea.

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