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TeamLiquid was asked by SlayerS to make this information public to the international community.
SlayerS Facebook and Twitter no longer officially represent the SlayerS Team
SlayerS has announced it is no longer officially affiliated with the social networking pages that were previously used by the team. Up to now, the Facebook and Twitter pages had been created and operated by a Mr. Jung who was a supporter of the team, but they were not official channels of the team.
SlayerS owner Kim Ga Yeon stated "We are no longer working with Mr. Jung. Fans should no longer consider the Facebook or Twitter pages to be the official SlayerS pages. They are private pages run by an individual, so please do not use them for official contact with SlayerS. We would like to prevent any confusion or misinformation that occurs from communicating with the unofficial social networking pages."
For the time being, SlayerS has no plans to open official pages on social networking sites.
The following pages are no longer official:
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/teamslayers
Twitter: http://twitter.com/#!/teamslayers
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 shame, hope they open another page soon!
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I find this kind of weird. Why did they let him do it in the first place. It seems like it has never been official now.
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why doesn't the team just make an offer to purchase the ownership off him??
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On March 01 2012 00:36 Roxor9999 wrote:
I find this kind of weird. Why did they let him do it in the first place. It seems like it has never been official now.
Well, they did officially work with him in the past, I guess.
I just wonder why they couldn't take over the accounts after they ended their relationship with him.
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Interested in knowing the reason why they stopped cooperating all of the sudden, shame that kind of information never gets released into the public.
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Interesting. But as long as there is no significant underlying issues or problems, and the roster remains intact I will be cool with that.
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Why do I feel there is going to be something related to Slayers_Jessica in this?
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Hmm, obviously something happened there, hope they get themselves a new page sorted soon ^_^
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Well this at least explains the Taeja thing...
I am so glad he is still on slayers!!
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On March 01 2012 00:49 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
Well this at least explains the Taeja thing...
I am so glad he is still on slayers!!
what thing?
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probably because of the unprofessional tweets he posted, like the wrong result of oGs vs SlayerS.
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On March 01 2012 00:36 Roxor9999 wrote:
I find this kind of weird. Why did they let him do it in the first place. It seems like it has never been official now.
My understanding of all of this is that the person who made their Twitter and FB did so on his own accord and they "were added later." There is a post about it on Reddit, which included a link for a translation of Jessica's tweets.
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Not a problem for me, as long as they put a new link to follow. I don't care if it says teamslayers or teamslayers2 or slayersteam or anything.
On a side note from jessica's twitter:
"he decieve us all. Me. Boxer. MMA... All slayers"
It's a funny choice of words there, clearly showing that MMA is still their top 1 player. Not that it's wrong or anything. I just thought they would consider MMA as Puzzle and every other member. But apparently MMA is above everyone for her (except boxer obviously).
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she seems like such a cry baby.... reading through that link you'd have thought that the guy burnt their teamhouse down or something.
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hope this internal conflict will not affect the team's public image.
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On March 01 2012 00:51 Garnet wrote:
probably because of the unprofessional tweets he posted, like the wrong result of oGs vs SlayerS.
That can happen lol why would they get mad cause he was mistaken on the score ???
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On March 01 2012 01:05 Zamee wrote:
she seems like such a cry baby.... reading through that link you'd have thought that the guy burnt their teamhouse down or something.
typical jessica. what do you expect?
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On March 01 2012 00:51 Garnet wrote:
probably because of the unprofessional tweets he posted, like the wrong result of oGs vs SlayerS.
never a good idea to have someone outside of the team to post anything "official".
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On March 01 2012 01:05 Zamee wrote:
she seems like such a cry baby.... reading through that link you'd have thought that the guy burnt their teamhouse down or something.
I honestly think Boxer needs to step in. I love Jessica and all, but she's gotta chill out a bit. I don't know if the cultures are different but a lot of these issues can be brushed aside without such words like "deceive". Again, I might not understand the entire situation, but SlayerS shouldn't be involved extensively with so many dramatic incidents. And yes, TL should invest in another Terran if a suitable player is available.
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why don't they just run the things themselves instead of letting someone use it under their name, so weird
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Well now that there is new drama hopefully nobody remembers the Katu thing anymore 
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On March 01 2012 01:34 mememolly wrote:
why don't they just run the things themselves instead of letting someone use it under their name, so weird
I think the person who used to run it was affiliated with SlayerS before making some innapropritae tweets so they dropped him, still you're right: they should just have BoxeR or Cella run the social networking stuff so they have someone who actaully runs things in the clan running their media stuff too.
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On March 01 2012 01:37 RabidSeagull wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2012 01:34 mememolly wrote:
why don't they just run the things themselves instead of letting someone use it under their name, so weird I think the person who used to run it was affiliated with SlayerS before making some innapropritae tweets so they dropped him, still you're right: they should just have BoxeR or Cella run the social networking stuff so they have someone who actaully runs things in the clan running their media stuff too.
Hmm, language problems? But of course, finding a translator probably wouldn't be that hard.
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On March 01 2012 01:19 Arceus wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2012 01:05 Zamee wrote:
she seems like such a cry baby.... reading through that link you'd have thought that the guy burnt their teamhouse down or something. typical jessica. what do you expect?
She's the type of person who should be avoiding social media when it comes to work. Anyway, I don't know why Mr. Jung had ownership to their official social media pages to begin with. Not my business to know either.
I'm sure they'll figure something out eventually.
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why is there always so much unnecessary drama with Jessica..
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I don't know why the management wouldnt take over as as soon as it was created. Let the guy posts update and stuff but link the account to the management emails.
Not making an official page before annoncing this is a bit wierd as well.
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hope they get a new one soon
seems kinda unlikely tho
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It seems like this isn't the first post I've seen by "TeamLiquid ESPORTS", yet it still says that this is the first post by them. Just outta curiosity, why? Or am I wrong?
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TeamLiquid ESPORTS makes posts all the time about various news items.
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It's not like Jessica has done anything particularly incorrect -_-
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On March 01 2012 01:43 scDeluX wrote:
I don't know why the management wouldnt take over as as soon as it was created. Let the guy posts update and stuff but link the account to the management emails.
Not making an official page before annoncing this is a bit wierd as well.
I believe the guy was actually their manager.
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Ya i was wondering when this would make it to a thread. Thanks for letting people know! Too bad.
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Well once can assume this fiasco is completely related to social networking. GIven that the admin of both the Twitter and Facebook accounts 'is and was' an 'unofficial' source, one is inclined to assume social networking-derived information was withheld or unjustly spread
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On March 01 2012 02:00 Gamegene wrote:
It's not like Jessica has done anything particularly incorrect -_-
People will spew hatred towards her anyway. I often wondered why and I've only come up with two scenarios that make sense. 1) They're jealous that she's with BoxeR or 2) They're jealous that she's a strong proud woman and feel threatened by it. In either case they look for any small things like this to demonize her to make themselves feel better. She doesn't even have to do anything wrong for poeple to harshly criticize her. I can think of one case where she actually overreacted and caused unncessary drama and that was ages ago.
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On March 01 2012 02:20 MVega wrote:
People will spew hatred towards her anyway. I often wondered why and I've only come up with two scenarios that make sense. 1) They're jealous that she's with BoxeR or 2) They're jealous that she's a strong proud woman and feel threatened by it. In either case they look for any small things like this to demonize her to make themselves feel better. She doesn't even have to do anything wrong for poeple to harshly criticize her. I can think of one case where she actually overreacted and caused unncessary drama and that was ages ago.
In being a new person with StarCraft in general, the instances with Jessica being involved in scene news or dealings, all seem to be PR blunders on her part, in my opinion. I have no bias towards BoxeR or the past with the scene, again, as I'm new; however there seems to be a lot of mistakes or drama associated with things that don't seem to be necessary.
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On March 01 2012 01:03 NanaCry wrote:
Not a problem for me, as long as they put a new link to follow. I don't care if it says teamslayers or teamslayers2 or slayersteam or anything.
On a side note from jessica's twitter:
"he decieve us all. Me. Boxer. MMA... All slayers"
It's a funny choice of words there, clearly showing that MMA is still their top 1 player. Not that it's wrong or anything. I just thought they would consider MMA as Puzzle and every other member. But apparently MMA is above everyone for her (except boxer obviously).
I don't think there's anything wrong with choosing MMA..he is the team captain after all.
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On March 01 2012 02:26 divito wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2012 02:20 MVega wrote:
People will spew hatred towards her anyway. I often wondered why and I've only come up with two scenarios that make sense. 1) They're jealous that she's with BoxeR or 2) They're jealous that she's a strong proud woman and feel threatened by it. In either case they look for any small things like this to demonize her to make themselves feel better. She doesn't even have to do anything wrong for poeple to harshly criticize her. I can think of one case where she actually overreacted and caused unncessary drama and that was ages ago. In being a new person with StarCraft in general, the instances with Jessica being involved in scene news or dealings, all seem to be PR blunders on her part, in my opinion. I have no bias towards BoxeR or the past with the scene, again, as I'm new; however there seems to be a lot of mistakes or drama associated with things that don't seem to be necessary.
Same thing, didn't follow brood war and I think it's awesome how she runs Slayers with Boxer. But reading the tweets you would think someone had kidnapped a player and threatened to kill him unless Slayers withdrew from all tournaments.
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I honestly think foreigners shouldn't be able to have an opinion on this (such as Jessica being a drama queen or what not). Since they are mostly foreign to our eastern culture you may not be very aware of how we easterners work out things between people. Since that cultural gap exists I don't think it's proper for the foreigners to comment about things that they aren't familiar with besides the SlayerS pages were never really official to begin with.
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Everyone needs to stop bashing on Jessica. She's done a lot for SlayerS and she has a strong emotional attachment to the team. I'm sure we don't know the full story (posting the wrong results wouldn't elicit the response she did) and she has sacrificed a lot for the team. She even stopped acting in Dramas in order to support Boxer and the team, for crying out loud. She deserves a lot more accolades than she gets.
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On March 01 2012 02:32 Blasterion wrote:
I honestly think foreigners shouldn't be able to have an opinion on this (such as Jessica being a drama queen or what not). Since they are mostly foreign to our eastern culture you may not be very aware of how we easterners work out things between people. Since that cultural gap exists I don't think it's proper for the foreigners to comment about things that they aren't familiar with besides the SlayerS pages were never really official to begin with.
Correct, East Asian culture vs Western culture is vastly different - what a person that may see as a detail of minor significance due to their western views could be vastly different from those with east asian views.
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On March 01 2012 02:32 Blasterion wrote:
I honestly think foreigners shouldn't be able to have an opinion on this. Since they are mostly foreign to our eastern culture you may not be very aware of how we easterners work out things between people. Since that cultural gap exists I don't think it's proper for the foreigners to comment about things that they aren't familiar with besides the SlayerS pages were never really official to begin with.
I think people are just mostly confused about the whole situation. What exactly don't we understand from this cultural gap that removes our ability to form an opinion? If you take a look at the the thread, there's a lot of differing opinions so it seems like you made your statement about someone's post in particular and are being super passive-aggressive about it.
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On March 01 2012 02:32 Blasterion wrote:
I honestly think foreigners shouldn't be able to have an opinion on this (such as Jessica being a drama queen or what not). Since they are mostly foreign to our eastern culture you may not be very aware of how we easterners work out things between people. Since that cultural gap exists I don't think it's proper for the foreigners to comment about things that they aren't familiar with besides the SlayerS pages were never really official to begin with.
Honestly imo it's not culture but rather her bad english and failure to express opinion properly (like, the word "deceive" is sorta laughable). Besides, there are so many dramas in Korea and isnt Jessica the only one who went apeshit over everything ? e.g Coach Lee didnt twitt in nightmare-mode like her when shit happened lol. Culture is not a valid excuse.
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That's a shame, Korean teams really need to get there act together on marketing and stuff like that, they need more twitter involvement, not less.
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can someone knowledgable explain the fallout? I'm confused as to what has happened.
EDIT: on the topic that foreigners shouldn't have an opinion on this, that is a very closed off opinion of how to go about this. Just because cultures are different does not mean that someone has done something wrong and that others can't have an opinion. This is a world site and it allows info to pass between us foreigners and the Koreans/Asia players. Just because cultures are different doesn't mean people are infallible, that is just a strawman argument. The fact is that something happened and though actions are differently perceived in the west, we can still have opinions that we can state. That is the basis of learning societal differences. Being closed off does not help anyone in the slightest.
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On March 01 2012 02:57 docvoc wrote:
can someone knowledgable explain the fallout? I'm confused as to what has happened.
Their facebook and twitter are being handled by someone who doesn't work for SlayerS. Don't use it.
Jessica made this announcement. People are upset. ESPORTS.
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So...the retard who ran their facebook page made really dumb and completely unprofessional posts on multple occasions. The team decides to cut ties, and Jessica, with her bad English, makes an awkward tweet about it. She's clearly not happy, and why would she be?
I don't understand the stupidity being thrown around in this thread...it's pretty simple.
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On March 01 2012 03:08 PH wrote:
So...the retard who ran their facebook page made really dumb and completely unprofessional posts on multple occasions. The team decides to cut ties, and Jessica, with her bad English, makes an awkward tweet about it. She's clearly not happy, and why would she be?
I don't understand the stupidity being thrown around in this thread...it's pretty simple.
It's because people don't consider that her English is bad (and for some reason her posts in English sound very dramatic like someone is dying) but the translations i've read of her korean posts seem pretty professional and well put together, so basically people are just freaking out because they don't know what's going on and Jessica's tweets don't help explain the situation at all (people always want details)
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On March 01 2012 02:32 Blasterion wrote:
I honestly think foreigners shouldn't be able to have an opinion on this (such as Jessica being a drama queen or what not). Since they are mostly foreign to our eastern culture you may not be very aware of how we easterners work out things between people. Since that cultural gap exists I don't think it's proper for the foreigners to comment about things that they aren't familiar with besides the SlayerS pages were never really official to begin with.
Thanks Blasterion, but we westerners have grown accustomed to being able to have opinions.
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On Feb 29 2012 12:47<span style='color:#d20000'> (52 min)</span> Arceus wrote:Show nested quote +On Feb 29 2012 12:32 Blasterion wrote:
I honestly think foreigners shouldn't be able to have an opinion on this (such as Jessica being a drama queen or what not). Since they are mostly foreign to our eastern culture you may not be very aware of how we easterners work out things between people. Since that cultural gap exists I don't think it's proper for the foreigners to comment about things that they aren't familiar with besides the SlayerS pages were never really official to begin with. Honestly imo it's not culture but rather her bad english and failure to express opinion properly (like, the word "deceive" is sorta laughable). Besides, there are so many dramas in Korea and isnt Jessica the only one who went apeshit over everything ? e.g Coach Lee didnt twitt in nightmare-mode like her when shit happened lol. Culture is not a valid excuse.
Truth. She tends to speak passionately, so her words spill out faster than she should. That's my OPINION anyways. Oops, I almost forgot I shouldn't have an opinion.. silly me.
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Not really a big deal, hope they can create a new link.
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On March 01 2012 03:08 PH wrote:
So...the retard who ran their facebook page made really dumb and completely unprofessional posts on multple occasions. The team decides to cut ties, and Jessica, with her bad English, makes an awkward tweet about it. She's clearly not happy, and why would she be?
I don't understand the stupidity being thrown around in this thread...it's pretty simple.
Ahh so he's a retard now? Wtf.
You post was just as stupid as any of the other ones in the thread so I don't see what you're complaining about.
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On March 01 2012 01:32 xXFireandIceXx wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2012 01:05 Zamee wrote:
she seems like such a cry baby.... reading through that link you'd have thought that the guy burnt their teamhouse down or something. I honestly think Boxer needs to step in. I love Jessica and all, but she's gotta chill out a bit. I don't know if the cultures are different but a lot of these issues can be brushed aside without such words like "deceive". Again, I might not understand the entire situation, but SlayerS shouldn't be involved extensively with so many dramatic incidents. And yes, TL should invest in another Terran if a suitable player is available.
Well, if you consider how much she has invested into the team, considering that she has her own acting career as well, it should be not too surprising that she is very attached and protective of the team. Sure, sometimes she is very blunt and outspoken, but she means well.
As for TL, no I don't think TL should try to capitalize on signing away Slayers players. First off, there is not really any indication of any players leaving, and second, by doing that, it brings up the spector of player-stealing and all that drama, and TL loses its "moral high ground" and its image as the good guys.
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How do some of you manage to turn this into drama and bickering? Mind=Blown. It isnt even an issue.
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Once again, Engrish making everyone freak out over nothing -_-
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Probably something wrong or just something they need to fix. Don't worry! Probably up again soon.
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i hope she tells us at least what went down. the current team sites are going strong and posting valid info...not sure what is wrong.
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On March 01 2012 04:40 Golgotha wrote:
i hope she tells us at least what went down. the current team sites are going strong and posting valid info...not sure what is wrong.
Why would internal conflicts in the team be any of the public's business? Just be happy with this statement.
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On March 01 2012 02:32 Blasterion wrote:
I honestly think foreigners shouldn't be able to have an opinion on this (such as Jessica being a drama queen or what not). Since they are mostly foreign to our eastern culture you may not be very aware of how we easterners work out things between people. Since that cultural gap exists I don't think it's proper for the foreigners to comment about things that they aren't familiar with besides the SlayerS pages were never really official to begin with.
Thanks for your opinion, but I think most of us "westerners" are gonna keep having opinions on matters like this. Many of us here have Asian heritage, it's not like we are all hillbilly bumfucks... You're the only one proving you should be deprived of opinions... In my honest opinion.
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On March 01 2012 04:46 Mrvoodoochild1 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2012 04:40 Golgotha wrote:
i hope she tells us at least what went down. the current team sites are going strong and posting valid info...not sure what is wrong. Why would internal conflicts in the team be any of the public's business? Just be happy with this statement.
This exactly.
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I'm kind of sad now
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On March 01 2012 04:48 Milkis wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2012 04:46 Mrvoodoochild1 wrote:On March 01 2012 04:40 Golgotha wrote:
i hope she tells us at least what went down. the current team sites are going strong and posting valid info...not sure what is wrong. Why would internal conflicts in the team be any of the public's business? Just be happy with this statement. This exactly.
Then maybe she shouldn't post cryptic tweets referencing internal team conflicts? She could have stated that SlayerS facebook/twitter were no longer official without the drama bait.
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Yeah Jessica is annoying as fuck. Everytime I read something about her, she's crying about something and being totally obnoxious. Like someone else said, according to her post, it's like somebody slaughtered all slayers members' families and then drank their blood.
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Hotbid is such an epic troll.
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I like how our community has at least one weekly witch hunt, but when someone who obviously cares gets upset about things near and dear to them (and which we don't have any details about) that's obviously them sucking.
End of the day, if it was a fan interested in the good of the team running those, this situation would not exist.
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Slayers_EVE is 21? Hurrah! For a moment I thought I'd become a paedophile.
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On March 01 2012 02:47 Arceus wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2012 02:32 Blasterion wrote:
I honestly think foreigners shouldn't be able to have an opinion on this (such as Jessica being a drama queen or what not). Since they are mostly foreign to our eastern culture you may not be very aware of how we easterners work out things between people. Since that cultural gap exists I don't think it's proper for the foreigners to comment about things that they aren't familiar with besides the SlayerS pages were never really official to begin with. Honestly imo it's not culture but rather her bad english and failure to express opinion properly (like, the word "deceive" is sorta laughable). Besides, there are so many dramas in Korea and isnt Jessica the only one who went apeshit over everything ? e.g Coach Lee didnt twitt in nightmare-mode like her when shit happened lol. Culture is not a valid excuse.
Oh yes it is.
For example, if people bashed Vietnamese for certain stereotypical activities(which I will not mention here, but you, I, and everyone else know what they are). Aside from that, the manner of speaking, the way the language sounds, the proclivity to quickly anger and invoke violence over petty issues. Would it be fair to say that it's not anyone's place to judge Vietnamese, when we don't even understand what Vietnam went through during the World Wars...Agent Orange...the atrocities...do you follow me here?
What about other foreign vs domestic situations that are just too innumerable and controversial to list here?
Therefore I'm sure you and I are in perfect agreement that Culture absolutely plays a role.
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Culture plays a role in normative behaviour.
You need to understand this, or you'll shit yourself if you ever go out in the UK on a Friday night, particularly Newcastle or Glasgow.
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On March 01 2012 05:55 D_K_night wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2012 02:47 Arceus wrote:On March 01 2012 02:32 Blasterion wrote:
I honestly think foreigners shouldn't be able to have an opinion on this (such as Jessica being a drama queen or what not). Since they are mostly foreign to our eastern culture you may not be very aware of how we easterners work out things between people. Since that cultural gap exists I don't think it's proper for the foreigners to comment about things that they aren't familiar with besides the SlayerS pages were never really official to begin with. Honestly imo it's not culture but rather her bad english and failure to express opinion properly (like, the word "deceive" is sorta laughable). Besides, there are so many dramas in Korea and isnt Jessica the only one who went apeshit over everything ? e.g Coach Lee didnt twitt in nightmare-mode like her when shit happened lol. Culture is not a valid excuse. Oh yes it is. For example, if people bashed Vietnamese for certain stereotypical activities(which I will not mention here, but you, I, and everyone else know what they are). Aside from that, the manner of speaking, the way the language sounds, the proclivity to quickly anger and invoke violence over petty issues. Would it be fair to say that it's not anyone's place to judge Vietnamese, when we don't even understand what Vietnam went through during the World Wars...Agent Orange...the atrocities...do you follow me here? What about other foreign vs domestic situations that are just too innumerable and controversial to list here? Therefore I'm sure you and I are in perfect agreement that Culture absolutely plays a role.
It's out of topic but what stereotypes were you referring to? I am of Vietnamese descent and I am not sure what you're thinking about. PM me if it's offensive
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On March 01 2012 05:55 D_K_night wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2012 02:47 Arceus wrote:On March 01 2012 02:32 Blasterion wrote:
I honestly think foreigners shouldn't be able to have an opinion on this (such as Jessica being a drama queen or what not). Since they are mostly foreign to our eastern culture you may not be very aware of how we easterners work out things between people. Since that cultural gap exists I don't think it's proper for the foreigners to comment about things that they aren't familiar with besides the SlayerS pages were never really official to begin with. Honestly imo it's not culture but rather her bad english and failure to express opinion properly (like, the word "deceive" is sorta laughable). Besides, there are so many dramas in Korea and isnt Jessica the only one who went apeshit over everything ? e.g Coach Lee didnt twitt in nightmare-mode like her when shit happened lol. Culture is not a valid excuse. Oh yes it is. For example, if people bashed Vietnamese for certain stereotypical activities(which I will not mention here, but you, I, and everyone else know what they are). Aside from that, the manner of speaking, the way the language sounds, the proclivity to quickly anger and invoke violence over petty issues. Would it be fair to say that it's not anyone's place to judge Vietnamese, when we don't even understand what Vietnam went through during the World Wars...Agent Orange...the atrocities...do you follow me here? What about other foreign vs domestic situations that are just too innumerable and controversial to list here? Therefore I'm sure you and I are in perfect agreement that Culture absolutely plays a role.
i have no idea what you are talking about i think you might have autism
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On March 01 2012 02:32 Blasterion wrote:
I honestly think foreigners shouldn't be able to have an opinion on this (such as Jessica being a drama queen or what not). Since they are mostly foreign to our eastern culture you may not be very aware of how we easterners work out things between people. Since that cultural gap exists I don't think it's proper for the foreigners to comment about things that they aren't familiar with besides the SlayerS pages were never really official to begin with.
but SlayerS are trying to be worldwide ... they players attended events in Europe and USA and have many fans there and if Slayers wants to keep their fans they have to communicate with them in proper way
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On March 01 2012 06:15 Gunter wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2012 05:55 D_K_night wrote:On March 01 2012 02:47 Arceus wrote:On March 01 2012 02:32 Blasterion wrote:
I honestly think foreigners shouldn't be able to have an opinion on this (such as Jessica being a drama queen or what not). Since they are mostly foreign to our eastern culture you may not be very aware of how we easterners work out things between people. Since that cultural gap exists I don't think it's proper for the foreigners to comment about things that they aren't familiar with besides the SlayerS pages were never really official to begin with. Honestly imo it's not culture but rather her bad english and failure to express opinion properly (like, the word "deceive" is sorta laughable). Besides, there are so many dramas in Korea and isnt Jessica the only one who went apeshit over everything ? e.g Coach Lee didnt twitt in nightmare-mode like her when shit happened lol. Culture is not a valid excuse. Oh yes it is. For example, if people bashed Vietnamese for certain stereotypical activities(which I will not mention here, but you, I, and everyone else know what they are). Aside from that, the manner of speaking, the way the language sounds, the proclivity to quickly anger and invoke violence over petty issues. Would it be fair to say that it's not anyone's place to judge Vietnamese, when we don't even understand what Vietnam went through during the World Wars...Agent Orange...the atrocities...do you follow me here? What about other foreign vs domestic situations that are just too innumerable and controversial to list here? Therefore I'm sure you and I are in perfect agreement that Culture absolutely plays a role. i have no idea what you are talking about i think you might have autism
You're just being inflammatory without just cause, I suggest you refrain for the future.
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On March 01 2012 05:55 D_K_night wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2012 02:47 Arceus wrote:On March 01 2012 02:32 Blasterion wrote:
I honestly think foreigners shouldn't be able to have an opinion on this (such as Jessica being a drama queen or what not). Since they are mostly foreign to our eastern culture you may not be very aware of how we easterners work out things between people. Since that cultural gap exists I don't think it's proper for the foreigners to comment about things that they aren't familiar with besides the SlayerS pages were never really official to begin with. Honestly imo it's not culture but rather her bad english and failure to express opinion properly (like, the word "deceive" is sorta laughable). Besides, there are so many dramas in Korea and isnt Jessica the only one who went apeshit over everything ? e.g Coach Lee didnt twitt in nightmare-mode like her when shit happened lol. Culture is not a valid excuse. Oh yes it is. For example, if people bashed Vietnamese for certain stereotypical activities(which I will not mention here, but you, I, and everyone else know what they are). Aside from that, the manner of speaking, the way the language sounds, the proclivity to quickly anger and invoke violence over petty issues. Would it be fair to say that it's not anyone's place to judge Vietnamese, when we don't even understand what Vietnam went through during the World Wars...Agent Orange...the atrocities...do you follow me here? What about other foreign vs domestic situations that are just too innumerable and controversial to list here? Therefore I'm sure you and I are in perfect agreement that Culture absolutely plays a role.
Don't act like everyone understands your particular brand of racism. My roommate is vietnamese, I know his family well and I have no idea what these 'Vietnamese stereotypes' are.
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Slayers got burned by having someoue outside their team making statements and acting as the public face of the team. Not surprisingly this arrangement was not really optimum for Slayers and I am glad they figured it out and pulled the plug on it. No doubt they can find someone either on their team or a coach to take over the work of tweeting a few marketing messages a week.
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On March 01 2012 06:54 zefreak wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2012 05:55 D_K_night wrote:On March 01 2012 02:47 Arceus wrote:On March 01 2012 02:32 Blasterion wrote:
I honestly think foreigners shouldn't be able to have an opinion on this (such as Jessica being a drama queen or what not). Since they are mostly foreign to our eastern culture you may not be very aware of how we easterners work out things between people. Since that cultural gap exists I don't think it's proper for the foreigners to comment about things that they aren't familiar with besides the SlayerS pages were never really official to begin with. Honestly imo it's not culture but rather her bad english and failure to express opinion properly (like, the word "deceive" is sorta laughable). Besides, there are so many dramas in Korea and isnt Jessica the only one who went apeshit over everything ? e.g Coach Lee didnt twitt in nightmare-mode like her when shit happened lol. Culture is not a valid excuse. Oh yes it is. For example, if people bashed Vietnamese for certain stereotypical activities(which I will not mention here, but you, I, and everyone else know what they are). Aside from that, the manner of speaking, the way the language sounds, the proclivity to quickly anger and invoke violence over petty issues. Would it be fair to say that it's not anyone's place to judge Vietnamese, when we don't even understand what Vietnam went through during the World Wars...Agent Orange...the atrocities...do you follow me here? What about other foreign vs domestic situations that are just too innumerable and controversial to list here? Therefore I'm sure you and I are in perfect agreement that Culture absolutely plays a role. Don't act like everyone understands your particular brand of racism. My roommate is vietnamese, I know his family well and I have no idea what these 'Vietnamese stereotypes' are.
But are you in agreement with me that cultural communications styles absolutely matter, especially within the context of the original post?
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On March 01 2012 06:55 Daehlie wrote:
Slayers got burned by having someoue outside their team making statements and acting as the public face of the team. Not surprisingly this arrangement was not really optimum for Slayers and I am glad they figured it out and pulled the plug on it. No doubt they can find someone either on their team or a coach to take over the work of tweeting a few marketing messages a week.
it will be interesting to see if there will be continued postings from the "fake" slayers social media accounts.
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On March 01 2012 07:00 D_K_night wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2012 06:54 zefreak wrote:On March 01 2012 05:55 D_K_night wrote:On March 01 2012 02:47 Arceus wrote:On March 01 2012 02:32 Blasterion wrote:
I honestly think foreigners shouldn't be able to have an opinion on this (such as Jessica being a drama queen or what not). Since they are mostly foreign to our eastern culture you may not be very aware of how we easterners work out things between people. Since that cultural gap exists I don't think it's proper for the foreigners to comment about things that they aren't familiar with besides the SlayerS pages were never really official to begin with. Honestly imo it's not culture but rather her bad english and failure to express opinion properly (like, the word "deceive" is sorta laughable). Besides, there are so many dramas in Korea and isnt Jessica the only one who went apeshit over everything ? e.g Coach Lee didnt twitt in nightmare-mode like her when shit happened lol. Culture is not a valid excuse. Oh yes it is. For example, if people bashed Vietnamese for certain stereotypical activities(which I will not mention here, but you, I, and everyone else know what they are). Aside from that, the manner of speaking, the way the language sounds, the proclivity to quickly anger and invoke violence over petty issues. Would it be fair to say that it's not anyone's place to judge Vietnamese, when we don't even understand what Vietnam went through during the World Wars...Agent Orange...the atrocities...do you follow me here? What about other foreign vs domestic situations that are just too innumerable and controversial to list here? Therefore I'm sure you and I are in perfect agreement that Culture absolutely plays a role. Don't act like everyone understands your particular brand of racism. My roommate is vietnamese, I know his family well and I have no idea what these 'Vietnamese stereotypes' are. But are you in agreement with me that cultural communications styles absolutely matter, especially within the context of the original post?
Yeah I agree, so I guess my response wasn't really relevant to the discussion.
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Social network shenanigans... way overrated.
Why not some 'slayers.tld' - single website should be plenty enough!
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Gives me no pleasure to hear that something has upset the leaders of one of my favorite teams. I have no desire to know the full story. I just hope whatever it was passes quickly for them and they can focus on what they do best. Seems entirely sensible to want absolute control over their social media output. Good luck to Jessica, Boxer and the team.
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hmm sounds like they are looking for someone new to run their social networking in 2012. How does one contact the team? Cella?
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On March 01 2012 01:05 Zamee wrote:
she seems like such a cry baby.... reading through that link you'd have thought that the guy burnt their teamhouse down or something.
maybe the guy did burn down their team house. you never know!
maybe he harassed one of their female players, who knows!
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there she goes again....slayers jessica always stirring up drama when a simple statement would suffice: this site and that site are no longer official, please use these sites instead. instead we get, the sly fox deceived us all, i have lost faith in e-sports, oh woe is me the darkness is overtaking my life.
seriously, she's always creates mountains out of molehills. always thrusting herself and the team into the center of attention for no reason. childish, immature, unprofessional.
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On March 01 2012 04:48 Milkis wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2012 04:46 Mrvoodoochild1 wrote:On March 01 2012 04:40 Golgotha wrote:
i hope she tells us at least what went down. the current team sites are going strong and posting valid info...not sure what is wrong. Why would internal conflicts in the team be any of the public's business? Just be happy with this statement. This exactly.
Its right that its none of our business, but by making these cryptic tweets she doesn't help herself. If their first and only course of public action had been this post a few people might have speculated that something had happened but that would have been it. Instead she's drawn huge amounts of attention to it and everyone wants to know what actually happened.
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haters gonna hate. No information and everyone starts jumping on Jessica.
I guess that's why an unsurprising number of people here are never going to get laid. Misogynistic tendencies is not necessarily a deal breaker on its own, but heck, misogynism + computer nerd = woman repellent.
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Well, that is interesting. I wonder why they did that....
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On March 01 2012 00:37 striderxxx wrote:
why doesn't the team just make an offer to purchase the ownership off him??
That could set a bad precedent.
Mr. Jung should just hand over the accounts to Slayers management
or
They can ask Facebook / Twitter for the accounts.
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On March 01 2012 02:32 Blasterion wrote:
I honestly think foreigners shouldn't be able to have an opinion on this (such as Jessica being a drama queen or what not). Since they are mostly foreign to our eastern culture you may not be very aware of how we easterners work out things between people. Since that cultural gap exists I don't think it's proper for the foreigners to comment about things that they aren't familiar with besides the SlayerS pages were never really official to begin with.
I dont mean to get political, but if we didnt get involved in the 50's you guys would all be worshipping Kim Jong Il
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On March 01 2012 11:42 datsneefa wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2012 02:32 Blasterion wrote:
I honestly think foreigners shouldn't be able to have an opinion on this (such as Jessica being a drama queen or what not). Since they are mostly foreign to our eastern culture you may not be very aware of how we easterners work out things between people. Since that cultural gap exists I don't think it's proper for the foreigners to comment about things that they aren't familiar with besides the SlayerS pages were never really official to begin with. I dont mean to get political, but if we didnt get involved in the 50's you guys would all be worshipping Kim Jong Il
Well, that's enough internet for today.
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im sure he got mad when they told him they didnt need his efforts anymore
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well apparently he did something bad and deceived everyone. Since I don't know what exactly that he did and so I wouldn't comment about it.
all I can say is that Jessica is trying to help slayers team and so I think she would be doing the right thing
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didnt the best slayers information come from jessicas twitter anyway?
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I really liked the accessibility of their social networking, it made them stand out from the crowd, I'm sad to see them go and that SlayerS won't make their own facebook pages/twitter accounts
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On March 01 2012 11:13 openbox1 wrote:haters gonna hate. No information and everyone starts jumping on Jessica. I guess that's why an unsurprising number of people here are never going to get laid. Misogynistic tendencies is not necessarily a deal breaker on its own, but heck, misogynism + computer nerd = woman repellent.
Everyone's jumping on jessica because she's being a drama queen about it. Seriously, She states all these vague statements and ends with "No cant say, dont ask me why"
When a much better approach would of just been a better phrased statement such as
"At the present time Slayers Twitter and FB is no longer associated with team slayers. More information will be available momentarily."
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It seems that a lot of people are marking SlayerS_Jessica up for a drama queen over a few word selections ("decieve") that are probably steming from the fact that English isn't her first language. Decieve generally implys cruel trickery or manipulation, but it seems in this scenario, it simply means mislead. Don't fault the women for not having a perfect grasp of the English language, she has done a lot for SlayerS and Boxer, and it would be unlikely that she means to stir up drama.
Keep in mind this is the same woman who stood up quite strongly for SlayerS_Eve when everyone was like "OMG A GIRL." Have some respect for her.
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I'm guessing this is something boring. Announcing it's "unofficial" so it doesn't get slammed with so many questions directed at the players/coaches. Because of this line:
They are private pages run by an individual, so please do not use them for official contact with SlayerS.
I'm imagining running the mailbox of such a team would be pretty intense.
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"...what Vietnam went through during the World Wars...Agent Orange...the atrocities...do you follow me here?"
No I don't follow people whose knowledge of history is on the level of a fifth grader, sorry.
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On March 01 2012 17:11 Energizer wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2012 11:13 openbox1 wrote:haters gonna hate. No information and everyone starts jumping on Jessica. I guess that's why an unsurprising number of people here are never going to get laid. Misogynistic tendencies is not necessarily a deal breaker on its own, but heck, misogynism + computer nerd = woman repellent. Everyone's jumping on jessica because she's being a drama queen about it. Seriously, She states all these vague statements and ends with "No cant say, dont ask me why" When a much better approach would of just been a better phrased statement such as "At the present time Slayers Twitter and FB is no longer associated with team slayers. More information will be available momentarily."
I think you are expecting too much from a native korean lol
those sentences were quoted from her own personal twitter, I think that explains why it wasn't as "well phrased" as you would like
the more official statement is already @OP
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Well this sucks I guess. Wonder if they will have another page made so that we can check all those awesome updates on the SlayerS team.
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Why would a team choose not to have some social media channel, where they can post their announcements, comments, vids or communicate with their fans directly? Leaving out such an (extremely cost-effective) opportunity looks like a mistake to me...
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On March 01 2012 01:03 NanaCry wrote:
Not a problem for me, as long as they put a new link to follow. I don't care if it says teamslayers or teamslayers2 or slayersteam or anything.
On a side note from jessica's twitter:
"he decieve us all. Me. Boxer. MMA... All slayers"
It's a funny choice of words there, clearly showing that MMA is still their top 1 player. Not that it's wrong or anything. I just thought they would consider MMA as Puzzle and every other member. But apparently MMA is above everyone for her (except boxer obviously).
erm.. cause he is the captain of the team maybe?
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On March 02 2012 04:34 Detri wrote:Show nested quote +On March 01 2012 01:03 NanaCry wrote:
Not a problem for me, as long as they put a new link to follow. I don't care if it says teamslayers or teamslayers2 or slayersteam or anything.
On a side note from jessica's twitter:
"he decieve us all. Me. Boxer. MMA... All slayers"
It's a funny choice of words there, clearly showing that MMA is still their top 1 player. Not that it's wrong or anything. I just thought they would consider MMA as Puzzle and every other member. But apparently MMA is above everyone for her (except boxer obviously). erm.. cause he is the captain of the team maybe?
Does Slayers have rotating captains or multiple captains? In their match against oGs in the GSTL, Alicia was listed as Captain.
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Boxer isn't the captain anymore. He's the coach or something else -- a position specifically created for him.
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It blows my mind that anyone who has been following SlayerS and Boxer in SC2 can hate on Jessica, even if her tweats seem a little dramatic. She has done so much for both the team and Boxer, she even put her career on hold for them. Remember that nobody knows the detail of what happened, for all we know it was something more underhanded than simply false information.
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Is Mr. Jung the 'Clipper Darrel' of Korea?
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On March 02 2012 04:35 Bagration wrote:Show nested quote +On March 02 2012 04:34 Detri wrote:On March 01 2012 01:03 NanaCry wrote:
Not a problem for me, as long as they put a new link to follow. I don't care if it says teamslayers or teamslayers2 or slayersteam or anything.
On a side note from jessica's twitter:
"he decieve us all. Me. Boxer. MMA... All slayers"
It's a funny choice of words there, clearly showing that MMA is still their top 1 player. Not that it's wrong or anything. I just thought they would consider MMA as Puzzle and every other member. But apparently MMA is above everyone for her (except boxer obviously). erm.. cause he is the captain of the team maybe? Does Slayers have rotating captains or multiple captains? In their match against oGs in the GSTL, Alicia was listed as Captain.
Ganzi is the new captain but he wasnt there for GSTL b/c of mlg
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1. If the reason that Jessica seems so repugnant in official announcements and the like are because she's not a native speaker in English, why doesn't she just maintain announcements in Korean? There are plenty of people that can translate here on TL or on their own time. I follow Korean gamers and don't mind when they tweet in Korean.
2. If the reason you are being so dramatic is because you are dramatic. Cut it out.
3. If this is an issue, why can't you seize the rights to the page? Facebook will remove control of the page from him if you are the copyright holder. He has no way to maintain them. Man up and get them back.
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On March 02 2012 07:41 EnderSword wrote:
Is Mr. Jung the 'Clipper Darrel' of Korea?
wow now that you mention it, it does seem a little similar hahaha
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Finally actually looked at this topic... how bizarre.
Seems silly really.
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Jessica is someone who gives her heart and soul to Slayers and to esports. Yeah sometimes she's a bit "extreme", but someone who devotes so much time and energy to a SC2 team should be praised more than anything else. A little more respect for Jessica please. : )
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On March 02 2012 20:48 Incognoto wrote:
Jessica is someone who gives her heart and soul to Slayers and to esports. Yeah sometimes she's a bit "extreme", but someone who devotes so much time and energy to a SC2 team should be praised more than anything else. A little more respect for Jessica please. : )
This. People tend to say harsh things about Jessica, and how she reacts to certain things. But she reacts so fiercely to what she perceives as threats to her team because of her devotion to them. I got a chance to meet Jessica and some of the team at MLG Orlando, and they are truly awesome people. I'd rather someone care too much, then too little.
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Yes, Jessica can be overly dramatic. Also her English isn't the best, and asking for her to post in Korean always and have translators translate is silly, what about her non Korean speaking twitter followers?
Jeez, the internet is so determined to hate on everyone about just about anything.
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